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OT - Why would anyone live in Michigan NOT near Detroit?

  • AvgMSUJoe said...

    To properly troll, you must make your attempt outrageous enough to piss people off, but believable enough to get the shit done... otherwise you get called out or worse, ignored.

    Come on! I got 30 neg votes - that wasn't too bad a haul, was it?

    BH Spartan

  • The east side of the state lacks the beauty that the west has. Lake MI beaches are much nicer.

    And besides pro sports... Detroit doesn't offer much else.

    "Big city Detroit"..... eh...... if you say so.

    xsanguine

  • Motown Spartan said...

    What does it say about me? I was born in Detroit, moved to Royal Oak at 2, Wixom at 6, E.L. at 18, Novi at 24, White Lake at 26, Munising at 32 and now Marquette at 34. Marquette is infinitely more inviting than anywhere I have been in Metro Detroit and has several restaurant options that would rival the quality and atmosphere of a great deal of what the Detroit area has to offer. There are several local microbrews here too.

    This clearly says that you're a gypsy... biggrin

    JJ The Spartan

  • john winger said...

    i was born and raised in sterling heights. i feel i am entitled to share my opinion about living there. dont do it.

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    MSchott

  • Vegas Vic said...

    Plymouth, Rochester, Farmington all have "bedroom" neighborhoods where walking to stores and restaurants is not feasible. Their lifestyle is no different than Sterling Heights, Troy, Shelby, etc. Some residents feel a "downtown" atmosphere is crowded, noisy, and traffic congested. Main Street is Royal Oak is all of that. Living outside this type of area may be more desirable.

    I live in Farmington Hills and can drive to downtown Farmington in 5-10 minutes. It's relaxed and a very nice place to be with many family owned businesses where they know you by sight. This is far different than a developed community like Sterling Heights. I guess you could drive to Utica or in a half hour up to Washington or Romeo. Otherwise there's the cluster fuck of M-59. I'd take downtown RO over that every time. It's not the same.

    MSchott

  • BH Spartan said...

    There are plenty of opportunities to fish and hike within an hour of Detroit. Boating, mountain biking, etc. is all here as well. Tons of great parks, rivers, lakes, really it has everything that the west side of the state has except Lake Michigan and decent breweries.

    Which, on an aside - it is absolutely ridiculous that Detroit doesn't have at least one decent brewery.

    Name me the great rivers in Metro Detroit? The Clinton? St. Clair? Detroit? Paint Creek? Huron?

    trd697

  • Bender said...

    Detroit has culture?

    Who knew?

    I'm trying to think how you could even argue against Detroit having culture.

    MSUsbetterthanu

  • Misterray said...

    People's ideas of what constitutes traffic must vary widely if you think Detroit has little to no traffic. I drove from Metro Airport to Troy (taking 94 to 75) last month and it was three and four lanes of solid cars the entire way. Changing lanes took timing and paying close attention.

    On the west side, being in an expressway situation where cars are backed up and/or lane changing is even a moderate effort is the exception. It's clear that one has to have lived in both areas to really grasp the differences between them and understand the pros and cons of each.

    If someone hasn't dealt with Hotlanta traffic, they have no voice to speak about what traffic is, IMO.

    Location: Mumbai, India

    sparty419

  • GoRightThru4MSU said...

    Fuck that. Why would anyone want to live near Detroit? I'm a west sider (Kzoo) and I'm 2 hours from Detroit, 2 hours from Chicago, 45 minutes from beautiful Lake Michigan, 45 minutes from Grand Rapids and about an hour from East Lansing. Miller Auditorium (WMU) and the Wharton Center are easily within driving distance and bring in some big name shows and Van Andel Arena brings in some great shows. Kalamazoo has Bell's and GR has Founders. The lake shore offers some awesome towns to visit during the summer like South Haven, Muskegon and Grand Haven. Chicago, which kicks Detroit's ass in every facet, is only a 2 hour drive. Sports is irrelevant to me since I hate the Lions, Tigers and Pistons. Detroit is just a depressing city. I would much rather live on the west side of the state. You can have Detroit.

    The west side can have you. Lemme guess, you love the Bears and Cubbies.

    Location: Mumbai, India

    sparty419

  • sparty419 said...

    The west side can have you. Lemme guess, you love the Bears and Cubbies.

    truth hurts sparty419....everything he said is true. BTW: GO CUBS!!!!!!!!!!explode

    spartyon1

  • A question I have about the west side, just how religious is everybody? Is it like the south in that everybody seems to go to church?

    Location: Mumbai, India

    sparty419

  • This is why they pay Snake the big bucks, The cheddar

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    Spartan8Ball

  • Quebec Spartan said...

    No kidding. Also, I'm trying to think of how one could possibly argue that Grand Rapids has culture.

    No kidding. Nobody outside GR thinks ArtPrize is a big deal....

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    BrockMidlebrook

  • Quebec Spartan said...

    No kidding. Also, I'm trying to think of how one could possibly argue that Grand Rapids has culture.

    It's great that Grand Rapids has a Broadway Theater these days and once in a while brings in some big name concerts. These are events hat have been available in the Detroit area for decades and in multiples. Plus we have the DSO, DFT, DIA, Cranbrook, Detroit Science Center, Charles Wright African American Museum, Detroit Historical Museum, Motown Museum, Greenfield Village, Henry Ford Museum. Not to mention numerous first class concert venues and many summer outdoor concert festivals including the Detroit Jazz Festival.

    The point is that while the west side of the state as done well in gaining cultural institutions, the Detroit area is by far the most cultural part of the state.

    MSchott

  • BrockMidlebrook said...

    No kidding. Nobody outside GR thinks ArtPrize is a big deal....

    I live in GR, ArtPrize blows.

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  • sparty419 said...

    A question I have about the west side, just how religious is everybody? Is it like the south in that everybody seems to go to church?

    Some people go to church, some don't. I don't notice any difference at all; I spent 7 yrs in the R.O., Troy, Downtown areas. And why would that even be a concern? If your neighbors go to church but you don't, you don't want to live in that hood? Who gives a shit? I've never understood this.

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  • Only prob I see is if you bring the fatties w you.

    blanch32

  • BrockMidlebrook said...

    Some people go to church, some don't. I don't notice any difference at all; I spent 7 yrs in the R.O., Troy, Downtown areas. And why would that even be a concern? If your neighbors go to church but you don't, you don't want to live in that hood? Who gives a shit? I've never understood this.

    Personally I don't care whether or not people go to church or not, but in my experience the jesus freaks do not tend to be as tolerant towards people that don't go.

    Location: Mumbai, India

    sparty419

  • Have you ever gone for a walk on a farm in late November or early December, when there is no snow but the ground is frozen on top and everything is crisp and dry. You can walk anywhere and see everything because there are no leaves and mud and thick grass. In some ways its a world unexplored. You breathe in that crisp air and hear the crunch of things underfoot. Nature is beautiful in a chromatic kind of way. Have you gone evening snowmobiling on that same farm in January, where you can ride for what seems like an eternity over the moonlit snow. Have you gone out on a fishing boat on an early morning in July? I will always remember the big bass that jumped out of the water and threw my dad's hook out of its mouth, just as the sun was coming up. How about October? Drive down a dirt road out in the country sometime in the middle of a sunny afternoon in early October. Its harvest time, full of reds and yellows and oranges. I wouldn't trade my rural mid Michigan upbringing for all the restaurants and malls and concert venues and highways and traffic in SE Michigan. Nope. But that's just me.

    Its five o'clock somewhere.

    Hematoma

  • Hematoma said...

    Have you ever gone for a walk on a farm in late November or early December, when there is no snow but the ground is frozen on top and everything is crisp and dry. You can walk anywhere and see everything because there are no leaves and mud and thick grass. In some ways its a world unexplored. You breathe in that crisp air and hear the crunch of things underfoot. Nature is beautiful in a chromatic kind of way. Have you gone evening snowmobiling on that same farm in January, where you can ride for what seems like an eternity over the moonlit snow. Have you gone out on a fishing boat on an early morning in July? I will always remember the big bass that jumped out of the water and threw my dad's hook out of its mouth, just as the sun was coming up. How about October? Drive down a dirt road out in the country sometime in the middle of a sunny afternoon in early October. Its harvest time, full of reds and yellows and oranges. I wouldn't trade my rural mid Michigan upbringing for all the restaurants and malls and concert venues and highways and traffic in SE Michigan. Nope. But that's just me.

    I've done all of that growing up in SE Michigan. All of that stuff can easily be found in the thumb... Still do a lot of that on my in laws land near the Irish Hills area between Detroit and Jackson.

    That being said, I live in Mid Michigan now and love it.

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  • Hematoma said...

    Have you ever gone for a walk on a farm in late November or early December, when there is no snow but the ground is frozen on top and everything is crisp and dry. You can walk anywhere and see everything because there are no leaves and mud and thick grass. In some ways its a world unexplored. You breathe in that crisp air and hear the crunch of things underfoot. Nature is beautiful in a chromatic kind of way. Have you gone evening snowmobiling on that same farm in January, where you can ride for what seems like an eternity over the moonlit snow. Have you gone out on a fishing boat on an early morning in July? I will always remember the big bass that jumped out of the water and threw my dad's hook out of its mouth, just as the sun was coming up. How about October? Drive down a dirt road out in the country sometime in the middle of a sunny afternoon in early October. Its harvest time, full of reds and yellows and oranges. I wouldn't trade my rural mid Michigan upbringing for all the restaurants and malls and concert venues and highways and traffic in SE Michigan. Nope. But that's just me.

    That sounds very nice but I've been on Whitmore Lake or Kent Lake, each about 45 minutes from Detroit at 6am when it was a quiet and peaceful as can be. You don't have to go that far from Detroit to find that sort of atmosphere. Just west of Beck Rd in Northville is like that. I recommend the drive from downtown Northville on 7 Mile Rd out to Whitmore Lake some time. It's really nice out there.

    And what's with complaints about Detroit traffic? I drive in LA, Dallas and the San Francisco Bay Area for work and all are much worse than Detroit traffic.

    MSchott

  • Quebec Spartan said...

    There are Jesus freaks all over the place in West Michigan, and "Jesus freakdom" is much more a part of everything out there than people out there realize.

    Like I've said, West Michigan is a great place to visit, but I would never want to live there.

    You're full of crap. I've visited GR dozens of times over the year, have done a lot of business there, have family there and have seen no evidence of this. There may be a strong current of the Dutch Reformed Church in pockets of that part of the state but it's moronic to say there are Jesus freaks all over the place.

    MSchott

  • Quebec Spartan said...

    There are Jesus freaks all over the place in West Michigan, and "Jesus freakdom" is much more a part of everything out there than people out there realize.

    Like I've said, West Michigan is a great place to visit, but I would never want to live there.

    Where are you coming up with this shit? I've never experienced that at all. And I don't go to church.

    E: forget it, I just noticed you are a "new" persona.

    This post was edited by BrockMidlebrook on 4/4/2012 at 2:29 PM

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  • Quebec Spartan said...

    There are Jesus freaks all over the place in West Michigan, and "Jesus freakdom" is much more a part of everything out there than people out there realize.

    Like I've said, West Michigan is a great place to visit, but I would never want to live there.

    I've lived in GR my entire life, and other than the psycho "end of all days" people that preach around campus every so often, have never had to deal with so-called "Jesus freaks". I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.

    gvsparty

  • Jesus freaks, out in the streets, handing tickets out for God....

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