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AASpartan said...
I'd also add that some kids are so stupid that they'll post every minute detail about their lives online. Including documentation of drug use and underage drinking (including pictures). Before, people didn't have the globally public forum to show what gigantic morons they truly are.
If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. Jimmy Valvano
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cbmsu01 said...
I see this sentiment expressed here all of the time, including from people who are barely out of high school. From actually working with kids, they aren't any softer than they were 15 years ago when I was in high school. They might all have iphones and stuff, but that seems to be the main noticeable difference.
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I had a long chat with one of my fosters last week because some girl that doesnt even know her was talking crap on her facebook page.
1) Why does someone you dont know have access to your FB page?
2) Quit replying back to her. Internet fights are stupid
3) The crap she is throwing at you is about something that she shouldnt even know about. QUIT PUTTING YOUR ENTIRE FREAKING LIFE ON FACEBOOK
4) we went in and started deleting people. reset her security. and explained that if she changes it back, she is done with the computer. Forever. (or until she moves back with her piece of crap mother)fricking hate the way kids use facebook.
sitting on the couch watching TV text me
sittin on the deck. sunny. text me
cant sleep. text me
breakfast. text me
on the way to school. text me.gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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TUEBOR said...
As a man in his mid-twenties, I enjoyed a high school career without smartphones. Today as a mid-twenty year old, I've embraced technology more and made it part of my life more than any other demographic around... but I thank someone up above everyday for the fact there were no smartphones when I went through high school.
These kids can not get away with shit today. They'll condemn mischief until they admit how vital it is, especially for red-blooded american boys, in developing a boy in to their grandfathers definition of 'a man.' Technology not only ruined the harmless after-school brawl and the get-a-girl-to-flash-you at spring break phenomena, it wrecked personal self image/confidence. Ask yourself these simple diagnostic questions.. 1. When I'm at a bar and my date/friends happen to get up to smoke/piss/order and I'm left alone at the table, do I pull out my phone so as to not feel self-conscious of sitting alone? 2. When I get a females phone number, will the first time I get in touch with her be to call her and use vocal words like a grown-ass adult man, or will I text her like a middle-school twat?
It's technology in multiple ways: lack of privacy/being able to get away with things, PC-ness/sensationalism and making our parents scared and nervous out of their minds, and the fact that technology has enabled less human-to-human social interaction and all the anxieties and lessons therein. That, and v-neck shirts. V-neck tee shirts ruined us.
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As a child of the 70s, the difference I see today is that children seem to be the center of their parents world. Some of that is smaller families, but kids today have everything organized, parents haul them from activity to activity, parents attend every game, performance, etc., and you have parents who look out for issues of safety, ego building, and character development at every turn. Those are all admirable things, but much of what needs to be learned in life has to come from organic involvement in the world. That's delayed now and we even see so-called "helicopter parents" hovering over their children into college years. In my view, it delays the realization that the world does not revolve around you.
I'm not sure about the "soft" aspect, but children and young adults do have the expectation that the world adjusts to their needs. At work, I see fresh college graduates getting smacked upside the head by the bland realities of life and they're often unprepared. Previous generations had more bullying, more harshness, and parents typically didn't give a crap about your Little League game or school play. I think adjustments in parenting have focused on ensuring those left behind previously aren't any more. The trade-off has been delayed adulthood and a desire to protect children from the harsher aspects of life. It's different, and while I'm sure it's not worse, I'm also not sure it's better........
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morgarc said...
Speaking as a parent of 3 kids ages 3, 5, and 6, hell yeah I'm a lot softer on my kids. I'm 32. Here's a list of items I was commonly hit/poked with:
Fork(at the table) Large wooden spoon Rolled up golf magazine Golf club handle Belt
Not common items but they made an impression when I was hit with them:
Pool cue Wooden Crutch
I can say with 100% certainity that I will never hit my kids with any of the above items. Do they get spanked? Yep. Is it a beating like I got? No, just enough to make an impression.
It's scary being a parent now days. There are not enough true communities anymore. Where I grew up everyone knew each other, every one watched out for each other and people knew if there was a stranger in the neighborhood. I'm sure my story is not unique either. Hell, I was even spanked by friends parents growing up. Can you imagine that shit today? I don't long for that for my kids though. The one thing I do feel bad about is the freedom factor. Everyone here used to head out after school or in the morning during the summer and not come back until the street lights came on. That doesn't happen anymore. There are way too many crazy fucks out there to not know where your kid is(looking at you Forbin!).
Just the other night my oldest asked if he could go over to his friends house which is just down the street(I can see their front door from mine). I was like sure, I don't care. I am making dinner so you can only stay for a little bit. After he leaves I start thinking, shit I should have at least made sure he got to his friends. We live in a new sub and there are a couples houses getting built around us, plus people are always driving through looking at houses and ours in the last cul-de-sac so it's always used as the turn around point. I'm getting a little freaked so I sent the other parent a text to make sure and he did, but there was that 1-2 minute time period where I was generally frightened.
I don't think my parents ever really worried about that cause they didn't have to, then kids started getting abducted like hotcakes and the whole world changed. It really does suck.
There are things that I will use that made me tough. I was taught to catch a baseball with my barehands. That way you learned to catch with both hands and not this one-handed hot dog bullshit. I was in the backyard the other night playing catch with him and after a bunch of misses, I was like enough of this shit. Take off your mitt, you're catching with your barehands until you learn. It worked, he wasn't happy, but he can catch now.
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Dirk Hardpeck said...
Does it reduce the amount of bruising to the brain? I'm highly skeptical that it does, given the failures in sports like football and hockey. Hell, I'm not even sure I understand the issue in soccer. Is it the contact between the ball and the head that leads to problems or is it the whipping of the head by the player that causes the problem. A helmet isn't going to help with the later.
I'm worried about my kids playing in contact sports like football, hockey and rugby. And I love all those sports. I'm not sure what the solution is, but there is a problem with these sports at a professional level. We all need to look at what risks are acceptable for professional athletes and certainly for developing children.
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The one area where I see a major difference over the last 15-20 years is the kids playing outside angle. I don't know about you guys, but I just don't see it anymore. If you're like me, you spent your summers playing bball, soccer, hockey, football, baseball, riding your bike to the beach or around town to get food, play in the woods, or make up some game. Video games were for rainy days, night, or when it was too damn cold out in winter.
I was a 90s kid so we played our fair share of Zelda and Super Metroid, but my best memories by far growing up were spent outside, I'm sure you all feel the same way.
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Texting is a part of life. I text everyday. I text my kid in college. I text a friend back in MI.
hang on. . . . . text. . . .
WOOO. my kid just aced the Animal Science exam "If I cant ace that final, I shouldnt be pre-vet".
yeah. text yer ass off if you want. But dont forget about living the rest of your life. There is more to life than sitting in a chair texting someone.
This is only the 2nd of 12 foster kids that I have this complaint about. And it is no coincidence that both of them are over 100lbs overweight. And they all text. They all text too much. But not like these other 2. Just completely out of control. And they are horrible at actual human interaction. This kid actually will say "LOL" when she thinks something is funny. And I am not kidding.
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As a child of the 70s, the difference I see today is that children seem to be the center of their parents world. Some of that is smaller families, but kids today have everything organized, parents haul them from activity to activity, parents attend every game, performance, etc., and you have parents who look out for issues of safety, ego building, and character development at every turn. Those are all admirable things, but much of what needs to be learned in life has to come from organic involvement in the world. That's delayed now and we even see so-called "helicopter parents" hovering over their children into college years. In my view, it delays the realization that the world does not revolve around you.
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