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Old pics of Lansing in LSJ today

  • GatorBill said...

    KNAPPS: Used to go there to shop for school clothes when I was a kid. Mom would take us there for the big sale. After we got clothes, if we didnt break the bank, we would get a bite to eat before heading home. It was very cool, and I wish I was old enough to really appreciate it at the time.

    Bingo. I used to dig it when Mom said, we have to go shoe shopping. Then we would make the looong trip downtown to Knapps (I could see the capital from my bedroom window near Snow Road). I was like a treat.

    If I got real lucky, we would go ALL THE WAY, to Sears too.

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    SeeGreen

  • tGreenWay said...

    nerd Wurzberg's. lolEdit: I see GRR S mentioned Wurzburg's. He's probably got the correct spelling, too. I was way too young to be paying attention to correct spelling back then. lol

    Herpolsheimer's and Wurzburg's were the two full service places with coffee shops, bakery. "Herps" bakery had the best chocolate covered donuts in my 5 year old mind and my grandmother would always bring me there. Herp's also had a train suspended the ceiling in their toy department that only ran from the day after Thanksgiving to Christmas eve.

    The SOB's who finally ran Wurzburg's into the ground shut it down and took all the pension funds with them a few years before pension reform. My wife's aunt spent 29 years with them in starting on the sales floor and ending up as a book keeper and got zip.

    In GR Rogers Plaza opened about 1960 and Montgomery Ward left downtown to be the anchor store. Eastbrook Mall opened with Wurzburg and Steketee's around 1970. Woodland Mall opened about the same time with Penney's and Sears as the anchors. They had just had small store catalog order stores downtown that closed within a month of their mall locations opening. Downtown GR has never been the same after Eastbrook and Woodland opened.

    GRR Spartan

  • Loose Stools said...

    Great, classic department store. Nice, little restaurant in the basement, too. The best thing about it were the Christmas displays in the windows during the Holidays. The first scene from Christmas Story could have been filmed in front of Knapp's. If fact, the parts where they show in the inside reminded me a great deal of Knapps. I had many a funky Christmas photos snapped there while plopped on Santa's lap. Also, there was Knapp's Capital Avenue store--the sports department. Bought my first (and only) set of clubs there.

    That was when Lansing was a great town. Lansing is only a bureaucratic center anymore--all the charm has long since died.

    Where on Cap Ave was their other store? Don't remember that.

    Great comments about the Christmas display and your youth. Now go post the pics!

    Coach Dantonio is my Spartan!

    flywheel99

  • SeeGreen said...

    Bingo. I used to dig it when Mom said, we have to go shoe shopping. Then we would make the looong trip downtown to Knapps (I could see the capital from my bedroom window near Snow Road). I was like a treat.

    If I got real lucky, we would go ALL THE WAY, to Sears too.

    I love the stories about Lansing in yesteryear, but I have to admit that I never enjoyed shopping.... ever!

    I think I remember being taken to Knapps for shopping. I really remember going to Frandor and Sears.

    Coach Dantonio is my Spartan!

    flywheel99

  • GatorBill said...

    MAC Bridge: My uncle worked on it. I have heard a ton of stories, larger than life about him working as an iron worker both in the Navy and in civilian life. Im going to track down a picture later and post it here. He was pretty badass. He died when I was 3, so all of the stories I get are second hand. Some are embellished because my aunt tells them, but when my dad tells them (he was my dads brother in law) then you know there was no stretching the truth.

    But the guys building that bridge were badasses. Sucks to read know that two people died on their very first day of work there.

    yes sir GatorBill.

    Yes indeed.

    Coach Dantonio is my Spartan!

    flywheel99

  • Like GatorBill, I remember the annual trip in the late summer to Knapps to buy clothes and shoes for school. One of the great things about the trip was riding the "alligators" (escalators) as Nakid Boibeys called them when she was little.

    My inspiration: http://www.lifeasazebra.com/

    Minnie

  • flywheel99 said...

    I pass out just looking at those photos of the Mighty Mac being built. Ridiculous.

    Seriously. When I opened that 2nd pic, I peed a little.

    Larry Kazamias

  • Io Triumphe said...

    Lansing was killed in the late 70's and wasn't brought back to life until, IMO, Oldsmobile Park. I think the culture and charm is coming back. Slowly, but's it's on a huge upswing from where it was.

    Not to get political, but Lansing owes a lot to David Hollister. He was the catalyst for getting downtown turned around...and also for getting GM to build 2 new plants in the Lansing area. I don't , for the most part, share the same political views with Hollister....but putting politics aside, I have no problem giving credit to one who deserves it regardless of which side of the aisle they are from.

    Contrarian

  • GatorBill said..

    MAC Bridge: My uncle worked on it. I have heard a ton of stories, larger than life about him working as an iron worker both in the Navy and in civilian life. Im going to track down a picture later and post it here. He was pretty badass. He died when I was 3, so all of the stories I get are second hand. Some are embellished because my aunt tells them, but when my dad tells them (he was my dads brother in law) then you know there was no stretching the truth.

    But the guys building that bridge were badasses. Sucks to read know that two people died on their very first day of work there.

    Like I mentioned earlier....if you havent, check out that documentary that PBS made about the building of the Mighty Mac...it was funny that they covered how the iron workers turned St Ignace into a huge brothel and gambling house..and then as soon as the bridge was complete and they moved on, St Ignace went back to being a sleepy little tourist town again.

    Contrarian

  • flywheel99 said...

    yes sir GatorBill.

    Yes indeed.

    This is my Uncle Bill. The Navy pants are kind of odd, but that is one badass dude right there. This was in either. . . Guam, or Alaska. . . . looks too warm for Alaska. . . 1950s.

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    If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. Jimmy Valvano

    GatorBill

  • Where are the old pics of the rides at Frandor?? Or the amusement park at Lake Lansing? In prohibition times I heard there was a bar in the middle of Lk. Lansing. If raided they would dump the booze in the water.

    This post was edited by maxemus on 3/27/2012 at 6:37 AM

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  • Contrarian said...

    Not to get political, but Lansing owes a lot to David Hollister. He was the catalyst for getting downtown turned around...and also for getting GM to build 2 new plants in the Lansing area. I don't , for the most part, share the same political views with Hollister....but putting politics aside, I have no problem giving credit to one who deserves it regardless of which side of the aisle they are from.

    I totally agree. They named a building after him, or did he buy it and name it himself? Other then name a street or a park after him I don't know what cities really do to honor people.

    Io Triumphe

  • If the Knapp's building was in Miami Beach it would be celebrated worldwide as a pop culture icon.

    Beastial

  • Loose Stools said...

    Great, classic department store. Nice, little restaurant in the basement, too. The best thing about it were the Christmas displays in the windows during the Holidays. The first scene from Christmas Story could have been filmed in front of Knapp's. If fact, the parts where they show in the inside reminded me a great deal of Knapps. I had many a funky Christmas photos snapped there while plopped on Santa's lap. Also, there was Knapp's Capital Avenue store--the sports department. Bought my first (and only) set of clubs there.

    That was when Lansing was a great town. Lansing is only a bureaucratic center anymore--all the charm has long since died.

    Totally agree with this! Was the first place I had a picture taken with Santa. My dad worked dowtown in a building across from the Capitol and we would go to Knapps to shop sometimes after we went to pick him up. I remember one time they had their store windows covered with black paper and small cut out holes to look through to see what was in the Christmas display. We watched as several people in succession smashed their face into the glass trying to look through the holes. Knapps also had an East Lansing location on MAC Ave. where we would shop for school stuff. The kids area was in the basment and I distictly remember buying Buster Brown shoes there that came with some kind of toy. The East Lansing store eventually went OOB and became home for America's Cup and AllyEye.

    This post was edited by SpartanEar on 3/27/2012 at 8:06 AM

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  • Snake Plissken said...

    That does not look safe

    Those are similar conditions to what Foxconn forces their employees to work in.

    Motown Spartan

  • CivilEGR said...

    Where's Omars?

    Why I remember the days when a fella could get a haircut, shave, and lap dance for a nickel!

    This post was edited by OPatMSU on 3/27/2012 at 8:22 AM

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    You're in college. The window of opportunity to drink and do drugs and take advantage of young girls is getting smaller by the day.

    OPatMSU

  • These photos are like a wheres waldo for TanFan.

    CivilEGR

  • maxemus said...

    Where are the old pics of the rides at Frandor?? Or the amusement park at Lake Lansing? In prohibition times I heard there was a bar in the middle of Lk. Lansing. If raided they would dump the booze in the water.

    It used to be a http://www.lostlansing.com ... the link looks broken.

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    SeeGreen

  • I've always wanted to see old pictures of potter park, but haven't been able to locate any. Any photos of the old lion house would be great.

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    Bartoclon

    Roger Waymeth

  • thats right lostlansing.com thanks

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  • I still get my clothes tailored and dress shoes from Kositcheks. I believe it's the longest-running business downtown Lansing, which has been around since the late 1800s! Incredible.

    Howler

  • Eventually the Eydes own every property in downtown Lansing that isn't owned by the Gentilozzis.

    The Knapps location is about 2-3 blocks too far south and I agree in South Beach it would be a fully renovated building with the original facade.

    My grandfather's 2nd wife retired from Knapps. In pre mall lansing it was one stop all under one roof shopping.

    GRR Spartan

  • Io Triumphe said...

    I totally agree. They named a building after him, or did he buy it and name it himself? Other then name a street or a park after him I don't know what cities really do to honor people.

    The building and the former mayor having the same name is a pure co-inkeedeenk

    Contrarian

  • GRR Spartan said...

    You can tell who were the steel workers and who were there for the photo op. The steelworkers are the guys watching while the others hold on for dear life.

    Between 1890-1910 to the advent of the mall in the late 1950's-1960's every city had a local family or 2 that owned full service department stores.

    Lansing had Knapps Detroit had JL Hudson and Crowley Milner GR had Wurzburg, Herpelsheimer and Steketee (the latter catered to the Dutch community) Kalamazoo had Gilmore Brothers Traverse City has Millikens Jackson had LH Field and Jacobsons Reed City is where Jacobson's started

    Rochester had Mitzelfeld's.

    Ernie Pantusso

  • GRR Spartan said...

    Eventually the Eydes own every property in downtown Lansing that isn't owned by the Gentilozzis.

    The Knapps location is about 2-3 blocks too far south and I agree in South Beach it would be a fully renovated building with the original facade.

    My grandfather's 2nd wife retired from Knapps. In pre mall lansing it was one stop all under one roof shopping.

    Does the Eyde Co. still own Knapps? They have killed more than one historical building in the city of Lansing. Im not a fan of their work, and I have seen a lot of it from the construction side of things.

    They were killing the Walter French building for a long time. I dont know if anyone ever took the time to turn that building back around, but there was some great archtecture in that place that Eyde was halfassing around with. It was pretty sad the last I saw it.

    If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day. Jimmy Valvano

    GatorBill