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People that get dogs or cats from breeders are fools

  • 20 upvotes and 20 downvotes at the time of this post.

    Let me guess ... the 20 downvotes are from people who acquired their dog/cat from a breeder?

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    Vim

  • Vim said...

    20 upvotes and 20 downvotes at the time of this post.

    Let me guess ... the 20 downvotes are from people who acquired their dog/cat from a breeder?

    Yeah so. YEAH SO! biggrin

    LoneWolfSparty

  • I have rescued and bought from a breeder. I am not a master dog trainer and, in my experience, adult rescue dogs often have issues. I would adopt a puppy from a shelter but I am not interested in an adult dog. I currently have a cockapoo that I got from a breeder (that I vetted) and he is a great dog (mostly).

    spartan dawg

  • We tried to adopt a lab/great Dane mix from a shelter a couple of years ago and were denied because our yard wasn't fence in. We had a big yard, but fences weren't allowed & they didn't appreciate the invisible fence. So, we ended up going to a breeder.

    Our cats have come from shelters, but I've even heard of people being denied because they said they would let the cats outside.

    Inglewood Jack

  • A friend got a chow-mix from a rescue operation. She had to fill out numerous forms, have their house inspected and agree to future inspections. They finally got the dog and then noticed strangers peering through their windows and back gate for the next few weeks. One time her 13 year old daughter called her in tears saying a man is looking in the dining room window. The daughter said the man was wearing the rescue companies logo on their shirt. She called saying "if you do your unnaounced inspections one more time I will call the police and have you arrested". They never came back.

    What I learned from this is.....better to ask up front if these future inspections are announced or not. lol ....and then be prepared for the worst.

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  • It costs $10,000 to raise a dog. Get the dog you what so you're not the one giving your dog to the animal shelter.

    Izzo Court

  • Satchel said...

    Many. many humane societies and animal shelters make it far too difficult to adopt a pet.

    This can be true. I have been put off by some West MI shelters, but always tried to turn the other cheek acknowledging that it was a good cause and they are just trying to make sure that they place animals in good homes. But, some of my experience was confirmed when the shelter (that left the worst impression) failed to approve a dog for one applicant. That same applicant was also a large and regular donor to the shelter. He just bit his tongue and waited.

    When it came time to collect the checks from the regular donors, the shelter noticed that this guy's $$$ was missing. They put out a call to the him to ask what they may have done to turn him off. It all came to a head there, and the press got a hold of it, if memory serves, that same guy wound up on the board of the shelter.

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  • SpartyOn82 said...

    The humane society is anti-gun and anti-hunting so I will never step foot in any of their places again. I tried to adopt a dog from the Westland site a few years ago. Everything was all set, I show up to sign the papers and pay the fees and I casually mentioned that I might use the lab mix for hunting birds. I was immediately denied. They said that I can't use any of their dogs for hunting. I asked them if they'd rather a dog not hunt and die in a cage or have me adopt it and have it hunt. They actually said they would take their chances. The Humane Society is NOT about rescuing and finding homes for dogs. They have an agenda, and it is not with the dogs best interest in mind. We ended up getting a golden from a Breeder becasue of it. Want to rescue a dog - go to the local county shelter. DO NOT go to the Humane Society. BTW, here's Charlie:

    Let me help you crack this insanely complicated code...when adopting from an animal rescue that tends to be staffed by people that lean a bit toward the hippy, vegan, trail mix side of the spectrum...don't mention that you hunt, because they with turn you into a composite of all hunters in their mind and you have no chance. This would be like going to an interview for a job in finance, but mentioning that in college you spent time with the occupy WS movement. You are not getting that job, just like you are not getting that dog.

    Your average UofM fan and I have something in common, neither of us went to UofM. Though we do share One major difference, I got Accepted.

    MSUDancinBear

  • Inglewood Jack said...

    We tried to adopt a lab/great Dane mix from a shelter a couple of years ago and were denied because our yard wasn't fence in. We had a big yard, but fences weren't allowed & they didn't appreciate the invisible fence. So, we ended up going to a breeder.

    Our cats have come from shelters, but I've even heard of people being denied because they said they would let the cats outside.

    A great dane will run through an invisible fence and not even flinch. They are one of the few breeds that are just to big for that collar to be effective.

    Your average UofM fan and I have something in common, neither of us went to UofM. Though we do share One major difference, I got Accepted.

    MSUDancinBear

  • Breeders and puppy mills are not the same thing. I don't understand how you're supporting puppy mills if you get a dog from a breeder. It's not even remotely close.

    "People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care." - Mark Dantonio.

    JMSparty08

  • Inglewood Jack said...

    We tried to adopt a lab/great Dane mix from a shelter a couple of years ago and were denied because our yard wasn't fence in. We had a big yard, but fences weren't allowed & they didn't appreciate the invisible fence. So, we ended up going to a breeder.

    Our cats have come from shelters, but I've even heard of people being denied because they said they would let the cats outside.

    As for the denial for letting a cat out, I think that's pretty common. I think there is a distinction between humane societies/county shelters and private nonprofits that were formed by animal lovers. When I was in grad school I tried to adopt a kitten. I was turned down. I couldn't believe it. They never said why, but I was 23 years old and I think they just figured they'd find someone else. In this day and age when cats are getting put down or abandoned, these assholes were actually turning down potential adopters - it blew my mind.

    Natron tSpartan

  • MSUDancinBear said...

    Let me help you crack this insanely complicated code...when adopting from an animal rescue that tends to be staffed by people that lean a bit toward the hippy, vegan, trail mix side of the spectrum...don't mention that you hunt,

    I know that now. It was a completely innocuous comment. They were asking me about how often I will be excersizing the dog, and I mentioned that besides daily walks, I may be taking him out to the field to train him for upland bird hunting. I never suspected that they would not give me the dog, and instead take a chance on no one else steeping up and having to euthanize the dog. I'm not here to tell people to be for or against hunting, but just to tell them that the USHS is not about rescuing animals - they are about stopping all forms of hunting.

    SpartyOn82

  • Viggo_Martyr said...

    This chick I'm friends with on Facebook just posted pics of her new dog(that she got from a dog breeder).

    People like her piss me off. If you're gonna get a dog or a cat, get one from the Humane Society. There are plenty of good pets there and are in desperate need of a good home.

    Do you openly weep when this commercial comes on?

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    Watch Out Pylon

  • SpartyOn82 said...

    No they don't. Most of their money goes into their anti-hunting campaign. You can Google if you want, but here's one website: http://www.maineguides.org/referendum/anti_hunter_quotes.shtml

    Do some research. The USHS is NOT about rescuing dogs and cats.

    Not all humane societies are part of the national society. I just emailed my local society for clarification since I am a contributing member to it as well as an avid hunter, here is what they have to say.

    "Our Humane Society does not belong to the Humane Society of the United States. We focus entirely on companion animals, and therefore take no stance on hunting. I hope this helps."

    You can see your local Humane Society's tax information online and see where they get there money and to some extent how they spend it. there really are very few drawbacks to adopting vs. going to a breeder. You can find pure bloods too at humane societies.

    Martin Spartan

  • Watch Out Pylon said...

    Do you openly weep when this commercial comes on?

    Only because that song blows so bad.

    LoneWolfSparty

  • Here is another slightly on-topic question: Why is it that almost every dog that a HS shelter has is a pitbull mix of some sort?

    LoneWolfSparty

  • SpartyOn82 said...

    No they don't. Most of their money goes into their anti-hunting campaign. You can Google if you want, but here's one website: http://www.maineguides.org/referendum/anti_hunter_quotes.shtml

    Do some research. The USHS is NOT about rescuing dogs and cats.

    I personally know the Director of the Humane Society in my county because her daughters go to school with mine. I know they do a handful of fundraisers each year to help with operating expenses. Have no idea if they get any money from anti-hunting campaigns, but know that they have multiple fundraisers to help make ends meet.

    Posting member of tRCMB since 1997. It is ALWAYS a great day to be a Spartan!!!!

    Raytooth Morgan

  • SpartyOn82 said...

    No they don't. Most of their money goes into their anti-hunting campaign. You can Google if you want, but here's one website: http://www.maineguides.org/referendum/anti_hunter_quotes.shtml

    Do some research. The USHS is NOT about rescuing dogs and cats.

    You just used a site that has it's newest research as nine years old and it's oldest as 20 years old. One of the biggest complaints that is actually related to the Humane Society is that their top officials make around $200k a year.

    At the NRA - another 501 (c)(3), there are multiple officials that make $400,000+ a year.

    Yeah, the USHS ONLY cares about hunting. That's the ONLY thing they care about. They don't care one bit about finding homes for the millions of abandoned and mistreated animals out there. Nope, not one bit.

    Look, I don't entirely agree with the Humane Society's stance on hunting. But I strongly suggest you do a little bit more research before you throw all of those stones. You sound like a proud hunter who truly enjoys his sport, and I've got zero problem with that as long as you observe all poaching laws and use most or all of the animal. Like I've said earlier on this issue - for hunting dogs, go to a breeder. Don't try and pigeonhole a group that doesn't agree with your activities. Just because they don't like hunting doesn't mean they don't do some good. They're not for you, but that doesn't mean everyone should boycott them because the group doesn't agree with every single thing that you do with your life.

    Colonel Forbin

  • iCameron said...

    As someone whose family has a couple Cavaliers, I cannot fathom that a Cavalier Rescue exists or needs to exist. I've met several Cavaliers and they've all been so adorable and sweet, you'd have to be Hitler or worse to mistreat one or give one up. I'm generally of the opinion that if you want a pet, rescuing one is the way to go. However, members of my family have decided to get a couple Cavaliers from a breeder, and those dogs are so ridiculously awesome that I can now understand going that route.

    Last year, we adopted from a rescue a "Cavapoo" - Cavalier and poodle mix. Because of the wife's allergies, we have to go the nonallergenic route. He was obivously mistreated by a man because, even after a year, he barks and growls whenever he sees me. I can't pet him or get a leash on him without assistance. Because my wife "saved" him, he worships my wife and won't let her out of his sight. He's also OK with the kids, so it's just me. In all honestly, this dog is a pain - it's like he has PTSD and I'm the trigger.

    On the other hand, we already have a labradoodle that we got from a breeder. This dog is awesome and a perfect family pet. I certainly like the reputable breeder route because you know what you're getting. With a rescue, you may get damaged goods, which we now have.

    16ozIPA

  • Colonel Forbin said...

    At the NRA - another 501 (c)(3), there are multiple officials that make $400,000+ a year.

    Thanks for the reminder! I have to call and renew my membership. thumbsup

    LoneWolfSparty

  • Natron tSpartan said...

    As for the denial for letting a cat out, I think that's pretty common. I think there is a distinction between humane societies/county shelters and private nonprofits that were formed by animal lovers. When I was in grad school I tried to adopt a kitten. I was turned down. I couldn't believe it. They never said why, but I was 23 years old and I think they just figured they'd find someone else. In this day and age when cats are getting put down or abandoned, these assholes were actually turning down potential adopters - it blew my mind.

    One big reason that they don't like letting cats out is because many to most people will get their cats declawed (which is a whole different debate entirely). If the cat is declawed it lacks its main defense against predators (i.e. attacking back or climbing trees is non-existant) and thus letting a declawed cat outside is considered inhumane.

    letsgotocanada

  • letsgotocanada said...

    One big reason that they don't like letting cats out is because many to most people will get their cats declawed (which is a whole different debate entirely). If the cat is declawed it lacks its main defense against predators (i.e. attacking back or climbing trees is non-existant) and thus letting a declawed cat outside is considered inhumane.

    Even if the cat never leaves the house?

    LoneWolfSparty

  • People should also stop making their own babies. There are plenty of children who need good homes out there. In fact, I'm in the process of adopting a 17 year old Asian girl. Everyone, meet Kamiko. In her country they are so poor they can't even afford clothing.

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    You're in college. The window of opportunity to drink and do drugs and take advantage of young girls is getting smaller by the day.

    OPatMSU

  • Colonel Forbin said...

    Yeah, the USHS ONLY cares about hunting. That's the ONLY thing they care about. They don't care one bit about finding homes for the millions of abandoned and mistreated animals out there. Nope, not one bit.

    In my case, they cared more that I do not use the dog for hunting and less for finding the dog a home. They would not let me adopt him because I might use him for hunting. They told me they would rather "take their chances" on someone not adopting him instead. So, you tell me - in my case, what is their main priority?

    SpartyOn82

  • Colonel Forbin said...

    You just used a site that has it's newest research as nine years old and it's oldest as 20 years old. One of the biggest complaints that is actually related to the Humane Society is that their top officials make around $200k a year.

    At the NRA - another 501 (c)(3), there are multiple officials that make $400,000+ a year.

    Yeah, the USHS ONLY cares about hunting. That's the ONLY thing they care about. They don't care one bit about finding homes for the millions of abandoned and mistreated animals out there. Nope, not one bit.

    And BTW, I'm not telling people not to adopt from them. I just want to make sure that we all know what their priorities are and where most of their money goes. If you're against hunting and want to adopt a dog, go ahead and use them. Just know what they're about.

    SpartyOn82