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But the year before that MSU won. And the before that MSU won also (2007) so make that 3-2 in MSU's favor in MDs tenure. Oh, and he's never lost at home to ND.

Phil Steele has the worst top 5 I have ever seen. USC, Bama, and LSU are the top 3 end of discussion not even debatable.

FSU at number two and Texas being that high are both laughable

I seldom advocate that anyone get banned by the Rods, but Rodky you need to ban this Nucky schtick / troll. How this Nucky schtick has made it this far without getting banned is incomprehensible. To not even remember "Little Giants" is absolutely reprehensible.

Guy isn't a fucking Spartan. I think we should find him and butter sock the fuck outta him.

he picked bama last year at this point

I guess he had to put someone from the Big Ten around 9 and 11 so Wisky and OSU make the most sense there if you haven't been paying close attention. I'd probably put us 5 spots higher.

ND lost their best defensive and offensive players and will be starting a freshman QB...they are going to struggle.

He had them at #6 last year. At the same time, so did Athlons .

I figure MSU will be ranked around #15. Really, I'm fine with them being top 20; given the schedule, there's more than enough "big games" to have MSU ranked high; Boise, ND and tOSU all before October.

Keep in mind that this poll is how he thinks the final polls will look, which leans heavily on SOS (as in, weak schedules = higher rankings). He has a separate "power poll" for teams based on their raw strength.

Phil Steele ranks his top 25 differently than most analysts. He takes schedule into account and tries to project what the top 25 will look like at the end of the season not necessarily by which teams he thinks are stronger than others. This is why his pre season polls end up being pretty accurate. Wiscy is getting a lofty ranking in a large part because of its normal light schedule especially the OOC portion which Steele knows Wiscy will come out at 4-0. MSU and UM both have 2 tough OOC games which Steele takes into account.

Keep digging and you're reach China. Eff you and your "trick" play. Putting your balls on the line in front of the entire nation is no "trick." It's having a pair you need a grad assistant to help you out with. We also could have easily been in the Rose Bowl the last two years, but we weren't. Wins are wins, losses are losses. We have owed ND the last decade or so. Deal with it.

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based on schedule, not how good the team is.

God some of you guys are being insufferable douchebags this morning. Is it cause it's Monday? Fact is the last few years with ND it's been a close series. Two years ago we win in OT at home - great. Then last year we go into ND and get our asses handed to us. I remember most people on this board (including myself) being pretty confident going there last year (especially given our record at ND). It's going to be another tough game this year. Who GAF what the record is over the last decade? With that logic, any UM fan can say 6-4 over the last 10 years. And how exactly would most on this board react to that?

Yes, falling on his sword was definitely the right move.

Valid points: we need to whip ND's ass at the point of attack and disrupt the timing of BK's offense. The problem is, everything he does is predicated on quick 3 step drops to counteract and defeat a defense like ours. Coach D' and Duzzi need to re-tool a little bit for that game I believe.(and they will) We have home crowd and will flat out get AFTER Rees' arse in that game. It'll be low scoring but barring injury we should win IMO

Texas went 8-5 last year; 5-7 was the year before.