MSU Red Cedar Message Board

That's not what happened though. What happened here there were two slots and they told three or more kids first two in get it. OK, fine. Whatever. This kid was who they really wanted, but he didn't bite. So Michigan told them he could still come anyway after they got their two commits.

I think it's a bit unethical to create a situation designed to simply pressure a decision out of a kid. You're telling them if they don't commit now, he's out, but really they'll take him anyway because they want them badly. If you were thinking of sending your kid there, you'd have to wonder what else they've got up their sleeve.

Whatever. It's just a part of the game. This is only noteworthy because the kid's dad is quoted recounting how it went down.

I get the impression that you are upset about losing the last four games.

Figured you would be used to it by now.

Man you really got me.

But yes, MSU in my opinion is the biggest game of the year for Michigan this year. It will be a very very difficult game to win- Narduzzi and Dantonio certainly seem to have figured out Denard.

Don't feel bad, they figured out the rest of the Big Ten as well.

That's a good idea. The player didn't commit to FSU prior to Hoke accepting commitments for the allegedly only 2 scholarships set aside for 2013 LB's.

Father hears, reads, finds out umaa has gotten or will be getting its 2nd verbal. Father of player calls Hoke to ask. At which time umaa recruiting staff tells the father that what he had heard/read was true. They did have 2 2013 LB's commit but would still hold a spot open for him.

Here's the quote:

“Michigan said they needed two linebackers,” said Eric Levenberry, E.J.'s father. “They told everybody, and they said, ‘If you want the position, you’d better be one of the first here, the first to commit.’ They did get two linebackers to commit. I gave them a call, and they told us the other kid was going to commit, but they would still hold a spot for E.J.”

Even the umaa apple polisher/recruiting reporter can't get the chronology right. The way I read it the player's father was checking to see if the door was still open in aa prior to his son comitting to FSU. He was told for whatever reason that umma would have that scholarship available instead of it being gone as they had claimed would happen.

Pat Kugler OL from PA and admitted Spartan fan over wolvie when he lived in Clarkston. That was definitely a wtf???

Eeesh! Walmarters always cause the real fans of the institution something to face palm about.

No logical flow in this guy's statement.

Because we offer a scholarship to a special teams recruit, therefore, the fans of our school have no basis to question the ethics of another school's recruiting practices.

Yeah, that flows so naturally...

Was that the kid that visited our program 8 times or something like that?

Hoke said that two linebackers would be taken and he would hold a spot for Levenberry and only Levenberry. That's why Anzalone was told not to visit. So your first point doesn't make a ton of sense, especially since Hoke told other kids that they were done at the position (except for Levenberry). I'm going to go out on a limb and assume Gedeon and McCray knew this, so it wasn't dishonest.

As for your second point, Hoke tells recruits that they have the opportunity to come in and compete for playing time and that the best players will play. That's why Countess started for Michigan as a freshman. Also, Michigan has horrible depth right now, so commits probably aren't that worried about the depth chart. Besides, if a player is worried about playing time I'm sure he'd be smart enough to not commit to a school that has a couple of other freshman committed at his position.

How is that relevant to the point? Hoke tried to put on the hard sell and the kid told them he wasn't ready and said they could move along. Doesn't change the fact that hoke is hardcore pressuring the kids into committing early.

As opposed to your unbiased assessment.

but he is lying he told them only the first two lbs to commit get spots but he took all three.