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Police beat a guy for filming them - caught on tape

  • Optiking said...

    Still would have got his butt kicked.

    The proper responses would be to 'is this your house/property':

    "Yep, I live here and just got a new camera and was checking out the night vision."

    Not stupid crap like, "Nope" and "I am within my legal rights to do so" over and over. You are opening yourself up to getting your butt kicked.

    And collecting a cash settlement big enough to pay off your house and buy a Ferrari

    VeniceSpartan

  • Optiking said...

    Still would have got his butt kicked.

    The proper responses would be to 'is this your house/property':

    "Yep, I live here and just got a new camera and was checking out the night vision."

    Not stupid crap like, "Nope" and "I am within my legal rights to do so" over and over. You are opening yourself up to getting your butt kicked.

    I see a similarity to the argument you made here and the argument people make about rape victims "asking for it" because they are dressed a certain way. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it sounds like you're somewhat defending the actions of the douchebag cop here. Is that the case?

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    iCameron

  • iCameron said...

    I see a similarity to the argument you made here and the argument people make about rape victims "asking for it" because they are dressed a certain way. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it sounds like you're somewhat defending the actions of the douchebag cop here. Is that the case?

    I agree with Optiking to some extent: it sounds like the guy was being a douche. Does that mean I think he was "asking for it"? Obviously not. The cop was a much, much bigger douche. Huge douche. Douche that ate NYC-sized douche.

    There's this line I like from some movie (maybe "Leaving Las Vegas"), where the woman is fixing the face of someone who got his ass kicked and tells him something like, "It looks like you said something stupid to someone stupid."

    "Look at this. An entire generation of Cinderellas, and there's no glass slipper coming." -- Mother in ALMOST FAMOUS

    GreenMeany

  • update. The cop has been suspended with pay pending investigation. I hope he sues that ahole

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    Tanfan

  • Optiking said...

    Still would have got his butt kicked.

    The proper responses would be to 'is this your house/property':

    "Yep, I live here and just got a new camera and was checking out the night vision."

    Not stupid crap like, "Nope" and "I am within my legal rights to do so" over and over. You are opening yourself up to getting your butt kicked.

    No, the proper response by the Cop would be, "then I need to see some ID." The fact that he was pissed about being video taped is clearly what started the whole ordeal, and he needs to explain what he means by "obstructing an officier." Basically worse charge ever!

    blanch32

  • iCameron said...

    I see a similarity to the argument you made here and the argument people make about rape victims "asking for it" because they are dressed a certain way. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it sounds like you're somewhat defending the actions of the douchebag cop here. Is that the case?

    Ah no---

    Cop was in the wrong, but the cop had the adrenaline flowing from arresting the guys across the street.

    The guys verbiage was confrontational. He could have handled that 100x's better, and by his own admission blew it when he lied.

    1) Do you live here? "Nope". (bad call--he lied and cop suspected trespassing)

    2) "I have the legal right to film this, i have the legal right to film this" (Guy sounded exactly like Lee Harvey Oswald before someone shot his ass).

    All that guy had to do was say 'Good evening officer, i have a new camera and was just wondering how it would show up at night'.

    He didn't deserve to get his ass beat, but he didn't do anything to prevent or calm the situation down either.

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    Optiking

  • GreenMeany said...

    I agree with Optiking to some extent: it sounds like the guy was being a douche. Does that mean I think he was "asking for it"? Obviously not. The cop was a much, much bigger douche. Huge douche. Douche that ate NYC-sized douche.

    There's this line I like from some movie (maybe "Leaving Las Vegas"), where the woman is fixing the face of someone who got his ass kicked and tells him something like, "It looks like you said something stupid to someone stupid."

    The guy was being a douche.

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    Optiking

  • blanch32 said...

    No, the proper response by the Cop would be, "then I need to see some ID." The fact that he was pissed about being video taped is clearly what started the whole ordeal, and he needs to explain what he means by "obstructing an officier." Basically worse charge ever!

    You have to handle the situation before you ask for ID.

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  • Optiking said...

    You have to handle the situation before you ask for ID.

    He was sitting on his porch. There was no situation until the db cop created one.

    J2K

  • Optiking said...

    Ah no---

    Cop was in the wrong, but the cop had the adrenaline flowing from arresting the guys across the street.

    The guys verbiage was confrontational. He could have handled that 100x's better, and by his own admission blew it when he lied.

    1) Do you live here? "Nope". (bad call--he lied and cop suspected trespassing)

    2) "I have the legal right to film this, i have the legal right to film this" (Guy sounded exactly like Lee Harvey Oswald before someone shot his ass).

    All that guy had to do was say 'Good evening officer, i have a new camera and was just wondering how it would show up at night'.

    He didn't deserve to get his ass beat, but he didn't do anything to prevent or calm the situation down either.

    What was the officer's reasonable suspicion that a crime was being committed? That he saw someone sitting on a porch?

    Really?

    uhoh Sounds like there's millions of people out there giving cops reasons to "investigate."

    Cop's adrenaline either overtook his training, or there wasn't proper training to begin with.

    SpartanInNH

  • Optiking said...

    You have to handle the situation before you ask for ID.

    Cop is probably going to lose his job for violating many many many department policies and various civil rights infractions.

    The guy was being a douche, but sometimes bad things happen to bad/dumb people.

    Nice of you to chime in as being pro-police (I am as well), but cop made a huge mistake that will cost him gravely.

    "Tonight, we show the world what this program is made of!" -- Brian Ellerbe on Mar 4, 2000, the night of scUM's 51-point loss to MSU.

    m00kie40