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Poll: Joe Pa's statue

  • MSUManiac13 said...

    Man look at all the states that are pro-child molestation.

    JMCSpartan08

  • SpartanInNH said...

    Because Sandusky left in 1999? shrug

    Do we really know how far back the conspiracy and JoePa/Other University Officials knew about it?

    The oldest written references found were from 1998, but Sandusky and Paterno have worked closely since 1968, and 2nd mile was founded in 77.

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    RPMadMSU

  • Spartan_in_PA said...

    Penn State has been doing all they can to distance the current football team from JoPa and his regime. So they will very likely be moving it away from the football stadium. Since there is a sizable contingent of students and alums that still think that he was mistreated in the way he was fired, I expect that say that the move was to protect it. A nice out of the way basement room in the library would protect it.

    What ever they do will be when the students are not around. Right after he was fired a rumor that the statue would be moved very quickly resulted in a few hundred student to "protect it" The week after the summer session ends sounds about right. I expect that they will not announce a move prior to doing the deed.

    They could also do what um did with the felonious five banners and store it away in the archives until sufficient time has past to put it back.

    they haven't done all they can...penn state is doing very little to remedy this matter appropriately. They will be paying huge amounts of money on this because they have done very little.

    tVargMan Prime

  • JMCSpartan08 said...

    Man look at all the states that are pro-child molestation.

    Yep...basically these states are saying that it's the children's fault.

    tVargMan Prime

  • Albert Brooks bringing it strong:

    Albert Brooks ‏@AlbertBrooks
    They will leave the Joe Paterno statue up but they're going to have him look the other way.

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    Bearcats Go!

    Ludicrous Speed

  • Victory for MSU said...

    Absolutely keep it up. Add a plaque providing context for all the good and bad he has done.

    Trying to erase all memory of Paterno is simply childish thinking.

    I agree- the plaque can detail his coaching accolades, and that he looked the other way while children were raped by one of his staff members. No one should forget this.

    PunjabiExpress

  • Honestly I'm surprised no one has defaced it yet. I thought some irate citizen would have thrown some red paint on him or spray painted him or something.

    Is some misguided PSU fan pulling a Johnny Spirit round the clock statue watch?

    Ol Drippy21167

  • Ol' Drippy said...

    Honestly I'm surprised no one has defaced it yet. I thought some irate citizen would have thrown some red paint on him or spray painted him or something.

    Is some misguided PSU fan pulling a Johnny Spirit round the clock statue watch?

    I heard on the radio that PSU has a security guard watching it around the clock. Which is rich that PSU watches out for the well being of a statue after it failed to do the same for children.

    Spartan Butters ●

  • RPMadMSU said...

    Do we really know how far back the conspiracy and JoePa/Other University Officials knew about it?

    The oldest written references found were from 1998, but Sandusky and Paterno have worked closely since 1968, and 2nd mile was founded in 77.

    Freeh said he looked into what he could find from before 1998, but found no evidence. He did not have access to Second Mile staff/records.

    SpartanInNH

  • SpartanInNH said...

    Freeh said he looked into what he could find from before 1998, but found no evidence. He did not have access to Second Mile staff/records.

    Wow, Second Mile should have cooperated fully with Freeh. What are they hiding?

    DaHorn_Spartan

  • DaHorn_Spartan said...

    Wow, Second Mile should have cooperated fully with Freeh. What are they hiding?

    Perhaps this...

    The Second Mile Took No Action After Being Informed Of Sandusky's 2001 Shower Incident

    In a statement in November, the Second Mile attempted to address what they had known about Jerry Sandusky and when they had known it. Executive director Jack Raykovitz said he was informed only that an unidentified individual reported being s Freeh report indicates Second Mile execs might have been aware of a lot more than that.

    deadspin.com

    Spartan Butters ●

  • Spartan Butters said...

    I heard on the radio that PSU has a security guard watching it around the clock. Which is rich that PSU watches out for the well being of a statue after it failed to do the same for children.

    http://www.registerguard.com/web/sports/28377985-41/state-penn-paterno-sandusky-football.html.csp

    Vegas Vic

  • SpartanHoops said...

    Replace it with the Big Boy

    Can't do it. Big Boy was giving his meat to little boys and girls way before before Sandusky was.

    Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

    tGreenWay

  • tGreenWay said...

    Can't do it. Big Boy was giving his meat to little boys and girls way before before Sandusky was.

    no nono

    Vegas Vic

  • Ol' Drippy said...

    Honestly I'm surprised no one has defaced it yet. I thought some irate citizen would have thrown some red paint on him or spray painted him or something.

    Is some misguided PSU fan pulling a Johnny Spirit round the clock statue watch?

    im picturing a troop of mouthbreathing PSU fans guarding that thing like Sparty during UM week

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    beal99

  • Spartan Butters said...

    I heard on the radio that PSU has a security guard watching it around the clock. Which is rich that PSU watches out for the well being of a statue after it failed to do the same for children.

    Good point!

    Wigrich

  • Raytooth Morgan said...

    Bobby Bowden was interviewed on a Tampa radio station yesterday and said it should be removed. I agree.

    Fuck yesterday

    Keeping the sunshiners in check since 2000.

    Tanfan ●

  • EdMartin'sLoan said...

    Put it in the shower.

    lol

    That, or put it over his grave...

    'Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable' - President John F. Kennedy

    WixomSpartan

  • Spartan Butters said...

    I heard on the radio that PSU has a security guard watching it around the clock. Which is rich that PSU watches out for the well being of a statue after it failed to do the same for children.

    That's inhumane! You can't make one person work 24/7.

    Penn State needs to burn to the ground!

    tVargMan Prime

  • Raytooth Morgan said...

    Bobby Bowden was interviewed on a Tampa radio station yesterday and said it should be removed. I agree.

    Fuck yesterday

    Keeping the sunshiners in check since 2000.

    Tanfan ●

  • Vegas Vic said...

    no nono

    shrug What??? lol
    Did I just burst the bubble on your childhood hero? lol

    Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

    tGreenWay

  • tGreenWay said...

    shrug What??? lolDid I just burst the bubble on your childhood hero? lol

    No, it just wasn't funny. There is no humor in what Sandusky did.

    Vegas Vic

  • RPMadMSU said...

    Do we really know how far back the conspiracy and JoePa/Other University Officials knew about it?

    The oldest written references found were from 1998, but Sandusky and Paterno have worked closely since 1968, and 2nd mile was founded in 77.

    This is something that I cannot get past: the possibility that there was much more than we will ever know about.

    We know of the 8 specific victims that testified or had their parents notify the authorities. But I am assuming (without any true evidence -- sorry for speculating!) that the number of victims could be ridiculously high. Given the number of years, the amount of unsupervised contact, the people looking the other way for him, etc., it seems logical to me that he could have been 10x more horrific than we know.

    His own adopted son announced that Sandusky abused him, for chrissakes. You have to believe that other kids (or now adults) are afraid/ashamed of letting people know what happened. Some other victims may have told their parents, but those kids' parents might even be choosing to remain silent.

    My point is that I believe that we only know of a fraction of what was done. And that alone is beyond comprehension to me. Paterno's inactions led to a lot of those atrocities. I was debating the "statue must come down" argument based on what Sandusky was specifically guilty of. Thinking that a statue is on display to honor a person that could have prevented all those crimes and ruined SIGNIFICANTLY MORE than 9 lives makes me nauseous. It is despicable for the administration to keep it on display, and it is a huge slap in the face to all the victims of the crimes.

    The statue must come down immediately.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by sleepy01 on 7/13/2012 at 4:32 PM

    sleepy01

  • sleepy01 said...

    This is something that I cannot get past: the possibility that there was much more than we will ever know about.

    We know of the 8 specific victims that testified or had their parents notify the authorities. But I am assuming (without any true evidence -- sorry for speculating!) that the number of victims could be ridiculously high. Given the number of years, the amount of unsupervised contact, the people looking the other way for him, etc., it seems logical to me that he could have been 10x more horrific than we know.

    His own adopted son announced that Sandusky abused him, for chrissakes. You have to believe that other kids (or now adults) are afraid/ashamed of letting people know what happened. Some of those kids' parents might even be choosing to remain silent.

    My point is that I believe that we only know of a fraction of what was done. And that alone is beyond comprehension to me. Paterno's inactions led to a lot of those atrocities. I was debating the "statue must come down" argument based on what Sandusky was specifically guilty of. Thinking that a statue is on display to honor a person that could have prevented all those crimes and ruined SIGNIFICANTLY MORE than 9 lives is despicable.

    The statue must come down immediately.

    good point...also, email may not have been ubiquitous or a preferred method of communication in 1998.

    tVargMan Prime

  • Victory for MSU said...

    Absolutely keep it up. Add a plaque providing context for all the good and bad he has done.

    Trying to erase all memory of Paterno is simply childish thinking.

    Yeah. Leave it up but with a plaque or explanation. I don't like taking down history, even if it is ugly.

    Foxbat

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