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Question re: Trees and Property lines

  • Where does the law fall on maintaining trees that sit near property lines?

    I have a large tree in my backyard (don't know what it is - pink flowers in the spring) that overhangs into my neighbors yard. I want to trim/prune some of it. Is the part of the tree overhanging into his yard his responsibility? Or can I go into his yard to cut off the excess/dead branches since the tree is growing in my yard?

    I know someone has the answer here.

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    Always Smooth.

    Jim Shorts

  • Is it your tree? If so, you can cut it all you want. Going into neighbor's property could be trespassing, but I find it hard to believe your neighbor wouldn't want you to trim dead branches hanging over his property. Usually, it's the other way around (tree owner doesn't want his branches overhanging neighbor's yard to be trimmed).

    "People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care." - Mark Dantonio.

    JMSparty08

  • Try asking your neighbor if you can go on their property to trim your tree.

    Gomer

  • I don't know if you can freely go onto his property to trim or maintain the tree.

    He can, however, cut down any part of it that overhangs onto his property. He could leave you with a partial tree if he wanted to.

    sleepy01

  • And FYI, in Michigan, the land where the tree originates is the owner. If the tree is growing on your land, it is your tree and your responsibility if it should fall or damage someone else's property (subject to other burdens of proof though).

    If a tree is not your tree, but is hanging over your property, you can trim it along the property line, but can not kill it, damage it, or leave it looking horrible (needs to keep aesthetics in tact).

    "People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care." - Mark Dantonio.

    JMSparty08

  • JMSparty08 said...

    "...your responsibility if it should fall or damage someone else's property (subject to other burdens of proof though)."

    False. This is an act of nature. You are not responsible.

    sleepy01

  • sleepy01 said...

    False. This is an act of nature. You are not responsible.

    Did you miss the bit in parentheses?

    Right, if purely an act of nature, not liable. However, if you knew the tree was dead and ready to fall in the next windstorm and it did fall, could be liable.

    "People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care." - Mark Dantonio.

    JMSparty08

  • Tell him you'd like to take your power-tools deep into his backyard and see if he'll go for it.

    ArtieLuvPancake

  • Gomer said...

    Try asking your neighbor if you can go on their property to trim your tree.

    This sounds like too much trouble.

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    Snake Plissken

  • Simple solution: Burn your neighbors house while they're asleep and then claim the land as your own

    Servo

  • JMSparty08 said...

    Did you miss the bit in parentheses?

    Right, if purely an act of nature, not liable. However, if you knew the tree was dead and ready to fall in the next windstorm and it did fall, could be liable.

    I had a significantly large (and dead/dying) branch separated from the tree a few years ago from a major wind storm. It came down across my driveway, smashing my fence, and also crushed the corner or my neighbor's roof. I tried to "hug" (yes, I wanted to be a tree-hugger) the branch, but my fingertips were at least a foot from touching.

    My insurance company and my tree-trimmer dude both told me not to concern myself with her house, and the part of the tree that remained in her yard. Same with the lawyer I consulted with. It was all her reponsibility.

    That made me feel better financially, but not ethically. She is an older woman, living by herself and not well off. Talked the tree dude into going into her yard, cutting branch, removing it from her roof and taking it all away. She talked to me the next day and thanked me, and said her insurance would take care of the repairs. She needed a new roof anyway.

    This post was edited by sleepy01 on 4/28/2012 at 2:24 PM

    sleepy01

  • sleepy01 said...

    I had a significantly large (and dead/dying) branch separated from the tree a few years ago from a major wind storm. It came down across my driveway, smashing my fence, and also crushed the corner or my neighbor's roof. I tried to "hug" (yes, I wanted to be a tree-hugger) the branch, but my fingertips were at least a foot from touching.

    My insurance company and my tree-trimmer dude both told me not to concern myself with her house, and the part of the tree that remained in her yard. Same with the lawyer I consulted with. It was all her reponsibility.

    That made me feel better financially, but not ethically. She is an older woman, living by herself and not well off. Talked the tree dude into going into her yard, cutting branch, removing it from her roof and taking it all away. She talked to me the next day and thanked me, and said her insurance would take care of the repairs. She needed a new roof anyway.

    One instance does not mean that's the law. Were you in Michigan? Did you know it was dead? More importantly, could she prove you knew it was dead?

    And you wouldn't need a lawyer, your insurance company would likely be on the hook for it and they would be defending the case.

    It's a negligence case if you knew it was a hazard and didn't remedy it. Makes sense. We don't want people with large dead trees to let them hang over a person's house and present a hazard to the safety of the neighbor or their property. Acts of God are one thing we will except, but willful ignorance of, or refusal to remedy, a hazard will result in someone getting sued and likely have to pay damages.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by JMSparty08 on 4/28/2012 at 2:43 PM

    "People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care." - Mark Dantonio.

    JMSparty08

  • Gomer said...

    Try asking your neighbor if you can go on their property to trim your tree.

    Nope...I have spent many years cultivating a nice "Don't come over and bother me with your neighborly bullshit and I won't bother you" vibe. I'd hate to give him the wrong idea by talking to him.

    Always Smooth.

    Jim Shorts

  • This seems to be a sensitive issue to you.

    Yes I am in Michigan. I knew it was dying/dead. Only a few living smaller branches/leaves attached to it. Rarely talked to her.

    The lawyer told me that the branch, dead or alive, is the responsibility of the property owner where it lands.

    It was also my understanding, after several discussions with a few colleagues in different city/township positions, that one of the reasons many cities were taking down all the Elm trees (diseased or not) was that they were concerned about eventual damage from those trees. If left unattended, these trees that would eventually die would also be a potential hazard for damage or injury. Individual property owners could not be held accountable, and townships wanted to avoid problems before they happened.

    sleepy01

  • Jim Shorts said...

    Nope...I have spent many years cultivating a nice "Don't come over and bother me with your neighborly bullshit and I won't bother you" vibe. I'd hate to give him the wrong idea by talking to him.

    Well if that's the case, just stroll into his backyard with your chainsaw and go to town. WTF are you worried about?

    Gomer

  • sleepy01 said...

    It was also my understanding, after several discussions with a few colleagues in different city/township positions, that one of the reasons many cities were taking down all the Elm trees (diseased or not) was that they were concerned about eventual damage from those trees. If left unattended, these trees that would eventually die would also be a potential hazard for damage or injury. Individual property owners could not be held accountable, and townships wanted to avoid problems before they happened.

    That's because those trees were located in the strip of land between the sidewalk and the street (city property). Homeowners had no say in the tree removal project.

    Vegas Vic

  • Servo said...

    Simple solution: Burn your neighbors house while they're asleep and then claim the land as your own

    Agreed. Then eat him to destroy the evidence.

    BH Spartan

  • Servo said...

    Simple solution: Burn your neighbors house while they're asleep and then claim the land as your own

    What about the women and children?

    Always Smooth.

    Jim Shorts

  • solution:
    Cut the lawyers out and make friends with your neighbor.

    If that's just too hard go ahead and live with the consequences, ie less money and control over your life, and increased paranoia.

    Diodotus

  • I have a wooded area behind my house that belongs to the farmer (who I have been told is an ass from my neighbors.) A tree from his property fell onto a tree right on the property line, so I cut everything down. I then used the brush and stacked wood to extend my property about 20 ft into his. I have the summer to work on blending in my backyard and slowly planting grass. Eventually it will be my property. Muhahahhahaha!

    Izzo Court