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Double_Spartan said...
Random football recruiting question...
Looking at some of the recent offers from players we have all ready offered, I have noticed that some are coming from lower-level and MAC schools. It got me thinking that this is awfully weird scenario that these schools are offering players after us. You would figure it would be the opposite of that.
I am certainly not doubting MD and staff (quite the opposite) who are great talent evaluaters as we have seen. But you would figure that these lower schools would put the offer out there sooner before the BCS and other "big boys" come calling. That in order to get some of these recruiters, they would need to start recruiting and offering earlier to entice them and establish relationships before the bigger schools offer.
So why aren't they offering these kids scholarships? Is it just they are slow in evaluating? Are they lazy? Do they not see what MD and company are seeing? Do they think they don't have a shot anyways? Different systems and thus different players to offer? What is the deal with this?
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MAC and lesser schools are typically offering kids extremely early in the process hoping to strike it rich with some of them. The difference right now is that it seems like ALL schools are offering earlier than normal. That bigger schools have more resources to identify talent now is the difference. Before we'd offer a kid after camp season and he'd have 6-7 MAC offers and 1 or 2 B1G offers. Now we're getting there before the MAC schools due to the excessive camping and junior days that bigger schools have.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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ronkbacon said...
With U of M class nearly done, and MSU only taking one more DB and only having 9-10 spots left in a smallish class. Tons of good player are going to fall to some MAC. They way the landscape is playing out, this class will have kids that slip to the MAC or out of the midwest. When they are good, later in their careers we will say, "how did that kid end up in the MAC?" The numbers seem to be playing out that way.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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SpartanRocky said...
No, likely a ton of good players will fall to IU, Purdue, Iowa, Wisky, Minny, Nebraska, PSU and anyone else that recruits OH/IN/MSU well.
Probably will have the effect of making the entire B1G better too. Most likely not what we want in order to stay on top.
I actually wish we had more spots after camp season this year with Michigan basically almost done. We will be able to find some incredible talents that they won't be able to offer and brainwash.F Michigan
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Probably will have the effect of making the entire B1G better too. Most likely not what we want in order to stay on top.
I actually wish we had more spots after camp season this year with Michigan basically almost done. We will be able to find some incredible talents that they won't be able to offer and brainwash.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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AASpartan said...
MAC and lesser schools are typically offering kids extremely early in the process hoping to strike it rich with some of them. The difference right now is that it seems like ALL schools are offering earlier than normal. That bigger schools have more resources to identify talent now is the difference. Before we'd offer a kid after camp season and he'd have 6-7 MAC offers and 1 or 2 B1G offers. Now we're getting there before the MAC schools due to the excessive camping and junior days that bigger schools have.
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I'd be perfectly fine with taking OSU and UM's "scraps" from the state of Ohio.
Really, it's what MSU has done for a long time. I always
when people ask if MSU is worried about Urban's recruiting in OH cutting off MSU's pipeline. MSU got 1-2 4-stars from OH/year when Tressel was there . . . and has continued to do so. It's not as though MSU was getting 6-8 4-stars and now Urban's putting a fence around the state.
MSU is recruiting well this year.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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wingfanjim said...
Scarpinato is a LOT bigger that Pickelman was coming out of high school. Scarpinato's recruiting profile on rivals had him listed in the 260s. Pickelman was closer to 215 in his.
Pickelman had to bust his ass just to put on the muscle he put on. The fact that he also developed the technique he had speaks volumes of his work ethic. Scarpinato is similar to Pickelman in that he came in undersized, but Scarpinato, going into spring ball of his redshirt freshman season is already as big as Pickelman was during his redshirt JUNIOR season. Physically, he is already light years ahead of where Pickelman was at the same point. The fact that he supposedly has a lot of the same mental traits as Pickelman makes him even more exciting.
To me, it is recruits like this that show how far we've come as a program. When Pickelman committed in 2007, he was one of the filler guys at the end of a class you take because he's a "football player". It took him 5 years of packing on 73 pounds of muscle his high school body didn't have to become a difference making Big Ten player. Scarpinato, has the opportunity to do the same while only needing to add 20 to 40 lbs post high school. Dantonio always recruited character. Now, he's getting a lot more developed physical talent to go with it.
This post was edited by SpartanRocky on 3/22/2012 at 1:33 PM
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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Trevor Barnes said...
Ok, that one is on me.
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I even kept my off color comments on your FB page to myself. . . just to keep from causing you trouble in life. But they really do need a "the person who wrote this is a d-bag" button on FB. That would help out tremendously.
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nysparty1 said...
Seriously , are you over 12 years old? The last time I heard the word "douchebag" was in highschool.
You guys have a rep that is in the gutter not just on other team boards, but on MSU boards as well. Sean and Dan need to take the garbage out and that starts with you- it isnt an enjoyable place anymore except for the few words from the reporters.
God, I hope you infants never went to MSU.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
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nysparty1 said...
Seriously , are you over 12 years old? The last time I heard the word "douchebag" was in highschool.
You guys have a rep that is in the gutter not just on other team boards, but on MSU boards as well. Sean and Dan need to take the garbage out and that starts with you- it isnt an enjoyable place anymore except for the few words from the reporters.
God, I hope you infants never went to MSU.
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Seriously , are you over 12 years old? The last time I heard the word "douchebag" was in highschool.
You guys have a rep that is in the gutter not just on other team boards, but on MSU boards as well. Sean and Dan need to take the garbage out and that starts with you- it isnt an enjoyable place anymore except for the few words from the reporters.
God, I hope you infants never went to MSU.
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wingfanjim said...
Scarpinato is a LOT bigger that Pickelman was coming out of high school. Scarpinato's recruiting profile on rivals had him listed in the 260s. Pickelman was closer to 215 in his.
Pickelman had to bust his ass just to put on the muscle he put on. The fact that he also developed the technique he had speaks volumes of his work ethic. Scarpinato is similar to Pickelman in that he came in undersized, but Scarpinato, going into spring ball of his redshirt freshman season is already as big as Pickelman was during his redshirt JUNIOR season. Physically, he is already light years ahead of where Pickelman was at the same point. The fact that he supposedly has a lot of the same mental traits as Pickelman makes him even more exciting.
To me, it is recruits like this that show how far we've come as a program. When Pickelman committed in 2007, he was one of the filler guys at the end of a class you take because he's a "football player". It took him 5 years of packing on 73 pounds of muscle his high school body didn't have to become a difference making Big Ten player. Scarpinato, has the opportunity to do the same while only needing to add 20 to 40 lbs post high school. Dantonio always recruited character. Now, he's getting a lot more developed physical talent to go with it.
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ROspartan07 said...
Yea now that you mention it I do remember Pick was that much smaller; really makes me think about how hard he had to work. I remember watching his highlights and he was just trucking kids in HS.
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