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lol, (literally almost spit out my water)

ok braintrust, ur right, nobody nationally cares about osu/um....

I would argue that the rivalry will only get bigger with Hoke and Urban now at Michigan and OSU respectively both seemed to have hired excellent coaching staffs and both are recruiting at an elite level and I would argue that Michigans rivalry with MSU will only get bigger with Dantonio and Hoke their respectively. Just because one rivalry grows in intrigue does not mean another has to diminish in relevance especially one as big as "The Game."

Michigan is one of the rare schools in the country that has 3 big time rivals in MSU, OSU, and Notre Dame. You ask any fan from either fanbase who is the most important game on their schedule and most will say Michigan... Obviously alot of ND fans would say SC and Michigan are 1A(USC) 1B(Michgan), but based on what has taken place over the last 6 years alot of ND fans view Michigan as their biggest game of the season now. I think this is one of the reasons that makes Michigans program special.

You have yet to show your (recent and national) polls that show that its the biggest rivalry. Didnt you claim that polls say its bigger than yankees/sox or bama/auburn?

I think the majority of the MSU fans on this site feel that their rivalry with Michigan is special(and it is) and that they are now Michigans primary rivalry. In essence, they want Michigan "all for themselves" and they want the spotlight that comes with that(A seat at the table in essence) there is nothing wrong with that. Plenty of Michigan to go around for MSU, Notre Dame, and OSU everybody will get their taste. I just feel that OSU will always be numero uno and im sure OSU fans feel the same way. It's just different.

Bleacher report has them at 21 behind army-navy. But it is bleacher report so there is no weight behind it.

dude just a few years ago when OSU was #1 and UM was #2 it was billed as "The Game of the Century" but yeah, it's been a L-O-N-G time since the game was relevant

I'll admit that when Dick Rod was at UM the rivalry wasn't as good as it had been because OSU was just beating their asses. But the game has been a traditionally important B1G game and it's a nationally recognized rivalry and the biggest rivalry in the B1G.

It is what it is man... Im just calling it like I see it haha.

dude, you make no sense at all - WHEN I have kids they are going to be taught to hate Notre Dame and Michigan and if they end up going to MSU then that hatred will be cemented and ingrained even more into their psyche. You make it seem like a kid who grows up in Ohio and loves OSU has no reason to hate Michigan because, as you claim, the rivalry hasn't been relevant. So what happens if UM goes into the toilet for 15 years - are you going to hate them any less? IF Michigan sucked for 10, 15 years I would probably hate them even more and celebrate their misery and shiftiness.

You don't even have to go back to 06, you can take it to 07 the following year( Carr's last year). The outright Big Ten title was on the line again and a shot at staying in the national title race was at stake for OSU(eventually they got in) and a shot at the Rose Bowl was at stake for Michigan.

If Michigan went in the toilet for 15 years it would greatly diminish the rivalry. I would still love beating them and my hate for them would never change. However, my hate or the two fanbases hate for one another does not make it nationally relevant. if Duke basketball took a dramatic decline and they were a borderline tournament team for the next twenty years, or even ten years the national hype around the UNC-Duke basketball game would be greatly diminished. The hatred would still be there for both schools but the nationally hype isn't there anymore. The same can be said about any rivalry.

Again, the rivalry is never diminished between fans. Thats why boosters and fans keep showing up. But I never watched the USC-notre dame game so apparently wasn't too huge. I did watch the Notre Dame-Michigan game because of all the hype and because of Michigan's god-awful uniforms (It's like a train wreck, you know the cliche) and laughed at the crap show that i watched. The only reason the ND- Mich. game was relevant nationally was because of the hype of the night game and ESPN pumping it up. The year before it wasn't nationally relevant.

Noting is special about Michigan's program.