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Scammed on Ebay

  • The_Dude said...

    confused

    So what specifically did he do that allowed him to get scammed that was out of the ordinary? Where did the OP deviate from standard Ebay transactions that allowed for such a scam to take place?

    I am seriously not trying to be a hard ass, but not a single person has told me what the OP specifically did to get scammed that he should have been able to see coming according to you?

    It started many years ago, when Ms. MSUx2 got knocked up behind the milkcan toss at a carnival in Howell. Ten months and two weeks later, she reached into her vagina and pulled out a slimy, screaming baby who had stubbornly clung to the walls of her uterus in hopes of living there forever. Having finally rid her body of this parasite, she left it in the bathroom of a Stuckey's and fled the state by fellating a Greyhound bus driver.

    Having been rescued by a long-haul trucker who happened to have had the squirts that day and raised in the cab of a Peterbilt by a succession of truckstop whores and meth-addicted hitchhikers, the child grew up to be what his mother had expected: a psychopathic moron. He now spends his time on a computer at a library, trolling on this board and trying to sell stolen items on Ebay.

    It was the latter activity which led him to peddle a camera he had gotten from a nine-year-old girl at a park, who dropped it and ran for her mother when she saw him. When a stranger made the winning bid on the camera, MSUx2 shipped it, using money he had stolen from a donation jar at a gas station - a small label had been affixed to the jar, detailing the plight of a family of nine who were all in the hospital after being hit by a Greyhound bus while the bus driver was receiving fellatio. After shipping the camera, MSUx2 heard from the buyer, who claimed to have not received it and has also filed a claim with Ebay, forcing MSUx2 to return the money.

    His personal history, his lack of education, and his anger over the incident all led him to the last line of his diatribe: "That said, hope she ets hit by a bus."

    I hope your need for answers has been satiated.

    This post was edited by Pervis Muldoon on 5/6/2012 at 12:12 PM

    Pervis Muldoon

  • Zed's Dead said...

    What is your feedback history and what is hers? If you are 100% with numerous transactions and she has previous issues it should be a no brainer for eBay. Did you offer shipping insurance at the buyers expense? You could show that you offered it and she opted not to pay.

    Sounds like you don't know much about Ebay. Ebay is a beytoch to sellers. It's the TOTAL responsibility of the seller to get the merchandise to the buyer. If the seller wants protection, he/she pays for the insurance. Ebay will side with the buyer concerning insurance as it's against Ebay policy to force buyers to buy insurance.

    From Ebay:

    "What you're not allowed to charge
    Insurance: You can't charge a separate fee for insurance, although you still need to make sure your item arrives as described.
    Tip: You should incorporate any insurance fees into an item's price or handling cost. "

    Selling practices policy

    http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/selling-practices.html

    pages.ebay.com

    Loose Stools

  • The_Dude said...

    confused

    Let me ask my question for a third time...what did the OP specifically do that deviated from standard protocol that allowed him to get scammed, or you can't answer that bit is just 'his fault'?

    Gotcha. You are the type of person that bitches about stuff but offers exactly no solutions.

    Dude, THE FUCKING SOLUTION IS IN THIS THREAD. First the OP is an ass fuck twin who I would never help, but just like eBay has a Buyer protection policy, they have a Seller protection policy. It's been posted numerous times. How dumb are you? Is this a bit? Seriously, read the entire thread, don't just respond to random posts and act like you have any clue what is going on.

    This post was edited by Rocket_Play on 5/6/2012 at 1:32 PM

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  • Rocket_Play said...

    If you get scammed on eBay, you are a moran. It is set up so you CANNOT get scammed. This is their whole thing right now. We know MSUx2 is dumb as dirt. Now we know how dumb.

    Only if you are a buyer. I suggest you post your thoughts in the Ebay seller's forum and see how it goes. Now, can you protect yourself? Sure. But as far as insurance, most don't insure if under $50 or so. They'll eat a loss here and there because the insurance fee adds up more quickly than the occasional loss. But, saying Ebay is set up so the seller cannot be scammed is a joke.

    One of the best ways to protect yourself is setting up buyer requirements. I don't allow buyer with under x amount of feedback, over x numbers of cases pending, etc, to even bid on my items. Most scammers are hit and run with very little feedback. Very few people are going to the effort of building up a certain amount of feedback to blow it on cheating someone out of $50. I deal in coins, so I'm very "fussing" about who is bidding on my items.

    Loose Stools

  • Loose Stools said...

    Only if you are a buyer. I suggest you post your thoughts in the Ebay seller's forum and see how it goes. Now, can you protect yourself? Sure. But as far as insurance, most don't insure if under $50 or so. They'll eat a loss here and there because the insurance fee adds up more quickly than the occasional loss. But, saying Ebay is set up so the seller cannot be scammed is a joke.

    One of the best ways to protect yourself is setting up buyer requirements. I don't allow buyer with under x amount of feedback, over x numbers of cases pending, etc, to even bid on my items. Most scammers are hit and run with very little feedback. Very few people are going to the effort of building up a certain amount of feedback to blow it on cheating someone out of $50. I deal in coins, so I'm very "fussing" about who is bidding on my items.

    Ok you don't know what you're talking about, got it. I have no need to go to the feedback forum. I know what the rules are. Is eBay heavily tilted towards buyer experience? Yes. Do they just not care if a seller gets scammed? No, they care and will make it right if you try.

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  • Rocket_Play said...

    Dude, THE FUCKING SOLUTION IS IN THIS THREAD. First the OP is an ass fuck twin who I would never help, but just like eBay has a Buyer protection policy, they have a Seller protection policy. It's been posted numerous times. How dumb are you? Is this a bit? Seriously, read the entire thread, don't just respond to random posts and act like you have any clue what is going on.

    Yes, they have a seller's protection policy--it's literally about a half page long. In fact, I used it against ebay when someone left bad feedback on my shipping charges (a $3 shipping charge I actually lost money on). It took over 4 months for them to remove the feedback, and they only did so when I repeatedly shoved their own policy down their throats.

    Buyer accountability

    http://pages.ebay.com/services/forum/sellerprotection.html

    pages.ebay.com

    Loose Stools

  • Rocket_Play said...

    Ok you don't know what you're talking about, got it. I have no need to go to the feedback forum. I know what the rules are. Is eBay heavily tilted towards buyer experience? Yes. Do they just not care if a seller gets scammed? No, they care and will make it right if you try.

    I'm a PowerSeller. Thanks for playing.

    Loose Stools

  • Loose Stools said...

    Yes, they have a seller's protection policy--it's literally about a half page long. In fact, I used it against ebay when someone left bad feedback on my shipping charges (a $3 shipping charge I actually lost money on). It took over 4 months for them to remove the feedback, and they only did so when I repeatedly shoved their own policy down their throats.

    You care that much about feedback? Accept that most people who buy on eBay are stupid and move on, you'll be much happier.

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  • Loose Stools said...

    I'm a PowerSeller. Thanks for playing.

    Wow that is impressive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Do you put that on business cards?

    This post was edited by Rocket_Play on 5/6/2012 at 1:44 PM

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  • Loose Stools said...

    One of the best ways to protect yourself is setting up buyer requirements. I don't allow buyer with under x amount of feedback, over x numbers of cases pending, etc, to even bid on my items. Most scammers are hit and run with very little feedback. Very few people are going to the effort of building up a certain amount of feedback to blow it on cheating someone out of $50. I deal in coins, so I'm very "fussing" about who is bidding on my items.

    This is the answer. As mentioned above, only deal with the people with close to 100% feedback or 100% feedback and a minimum # of transactions. I'm sure a lot of us have been burned before on eBay, but you quickly learn to minimize your chances of getting your ass burned.

    This post was edited by bigwali on 5/6/2012 at 2:12 PM

    bigwali

  • bigwali said...

    This is the answer. As mentioned above, only deal with the people with close to 100% feedback or 100% feedback and a minimum # of transactions. I'm sure a lot of us have been burned before on eBay, but you quickly learn to minimize your chances of getting your ass burned.

    A seller cannot leave negative feedback and therefore all people who only buy have 100% feedback. And even if you have negative feedback as a seller, it doesn't mean you are a bad buyer. If you do things properly on eBay, you cannot be burned on eBay, except the original cost of shipping as a seller if you offer free shipping.

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  • Pervis Muldoon said...

    It started many years ago, when Ms. MSUx2 got knocked up behind the milkcan toss at a carnival in Howell. Ten months and two weeks later, she reached into her vagina and pulled out a slimy, screaming baby who had stubbornly clung to the walls of her uterus in hopes of living there forever. Having finally rid her body of this parasite, she left it in the bathroom of a Stuckey's and fled the state by fellating a Greyhound bus driver.

    Having been rescued by a long-haul trucker who happened to have had the squirts that day and raised in the cab of a Peterbilt by a succession of truckstop whores and meth-addicted hitchhikers, the child grew up to be what his mother had expected: a psychopathic moron. He now spends his time on a computer at a library, trolling on this board and trying to sell stolen items on Ebay.

    It was the latter activity which led him to peddle a camera he had gotten from a nine-year-old girl at a park, who dropped it and ran for her mother when she saw him. When a stranger made the winning bid on the camera, MSUx2 shipped it, using money he had stolen from a donation jar at a gas station - a small label had been affixed to the jar, detailing the plight of a family of nine who were all in the hospital after being hit by a Greyhound bus while the bus driver was receiving fellatio. After shipping the camera, MSUx2 heard from the buyer, who claimed to have not received it and has also filed a claim with Ebay, forcing MSUx2 to return the money.

    His personal history, his lack of education, and his anger over the incident all led him to the last line of his diatribe: "That said, hope she ets hit by a bus."

    I hope your need for answers has been satiated.

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    The_Dude

  • Do the moral of the story is the OP is a doosher and he deserved to get scammed? Amirite?

    The_Dude

  • The_Dude said...

    confused

    So what specifically did he do that allowed him to get scammed that was out of the ordinary? Where did the OP deviate from standard Ebay transactions that allowed for such a scam to take place?

    I am seriously not trying to be a hard ass, but not a single person has told me what the OP specifically did to get scammed that he should have been able to see coming according to you?

    Did the OP mail that package UPS? They weigh all packages. The weight of the box alone would dispute a manual only was in there. Short of videotaping the actual packaging of the merchandise at the post office or ups and seeing them seal and take delivery of the box, there would be no other physical proof.

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  • The_Dude said...

    Do the moral of the story is the OP is a doosher and he deserved to get scammed? Amirite?

    It works for me.

    Pervis Muldoon

  • as an update....but before I do, the chick that won the bid had 180 feedback responses with 100% rating. I also told ebay that I would provide the post office receipt which indicated the weight of 15.9 ounces. I escalated it and they ruled in the skank's favor. They always will find with the buyer in this scam. I have 100% feedback and I have never had a transaction go badly before. So they don't look into the history of the seller to help make their determination. So I will have to refund the $45 and then I will close my account. I may try to call them to see if I can talk to someone first. Anyway, ebay blows and I am done.

    MSUx2

  • Don't refund the money...

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  • RPMadMSU said...

    Don't refund the money...

    If he doesn't PayPal will just take the money from him. He has no choice.

    crazynick15

  • crazynick15 said...

    If he doesn't PayPal will just take the money from him. He has no choice.

    Empty your PayPal account so there is no money, then what can they do?

    The_Dude

  • The_Dude said...

    Empty your PayPal account so there is no money, then what can they do?

    Your PayPal account is connected with your bank account... So the will just take from that..

    crazynick15

  • The_Dude said...

    Empty your PayPal account so there is no money, then what can they do?

    Then they will charge whatever credit card or bank account you have on file. I suppose you could close your PayPal account over this.

    Manhattan Green

  • crazynick15 said...

    Your PayPal account is connected with your bank account... So the will just take from that..

    Ahhh....sucks to be the OP

    The_Dude

  • I already removed my bank account from Paypal and my credit card from Ebay. Will wait and see what they are going to do about payment. If they threaten sending me to collections I will just pay it then.

    MSUx2

  • I'm not sure they can send it to collections. They did not extend a service or credit to you for that money. They aren't billing you.

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    RPMadMSU

  • I'm not sure they can send it to collections. They did not extend a service or credit to you for that money. They aren't billing you.

    Fact of the matter is, the buyer accepted delivery... legally, the transaction was complete. The buyer is challanging that delivery was not made deapite he or she accepting it. eBay can ask you for refund, but I don't think eBay in general has any legal right to go after one.

    If the buyer wants to challenge the transaction legally, he/she could sue...but that won't happen.

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