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Seasoned golfers, I need your help

  • If you are still in EL, spend a hundred bucks and get a membership at Lake of the Hills. It's a par 3 course and you get unlimited play with your membership so you can go out during the week and play a couple of holes or all nine (or more, whatever) and work on your short game.

    TexasTechExpat

  • COgruff said...

    ... I was taught to only hit a 5 iron before anything, and I think it's a fine way to go too. And to this day, 20 years into the sport, my 5 is still my favorite and most dependable stick.

    Not trying to be an ass, but how often do you hit a five iron in a round of golf? Two or three tops? I am not sure I even hit my five iron in an average round of golf.

    Bridon Gueermo

  • When I first started my goal wasn't to shoot a certain score, it was to be able to play with "golfers". I wanted to be able to play with friends and in work leagues without being looked at as a hindrance or a bother.

    For me that meant getting consistent contact off of the tee and irons, hitting solid chips, and having good course etiquette. Etiquette is a huuuuuuuuuuge part of golf. How you play on the course can tell people a lot about who you are as a person.

    Make sure you pay attention to the little things: playing "ready golf", keeping quiet and still when someone it about to hit, understanding pace of play, dressing correctly, showing up to the course 20-30 min early.

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    Players play, tough players win.

    Victory for MSU

  • I do not have any specific recommendations, but will chime in with a few thoughts:

    1) Are you average height? Fit can be very important, but it is very important if you are either tall or short (I am short).

    2) I would suggest buying a full set of clubs as opposed to the piecemeal approach you are suggesting. Buy something used in good shape and of generally good quality. First it will save you money in the long run and will help your game develop more quickly.

    3) I will add to the list of mentioned clubs Mizuno irons. For my money they are the best ones on the market.

    Bridon Gueermo

  • Havent seen a comment on this yet....but play cheap balls. Or, dig into the club house water ball bin. Plan on losing them. And, don't spend more than a minute looking for them. A couple regulars I play with treat a ball like its worth $100 and spend the full PGA 5-minute rule looking around. Its maddening and slows down play. Nothing...I mean NOTHING....is worse that a weekend round where the group of hacks in front of you spend five minutes fanning out, deep in the woods.

    Always play with a spare in your pocket also, so after you've briefly looked around, you don't have to run all the way back to your bag and dig out a scuffed Pinnacle. Better yet, the ProV1 you just found that isn't yours, can suddenly become yours.

    Tupes

  • Bridon Gueermo said...

    Not trying to be an ass, but how often do you hit a five iron in a round of golf? Two or three tops? I am not sure I even hit my five iron in an average round of golf. ?

    I hit my 5 around 180 off the deck and a little further teed up. Most courses I play have at least one par 3 in that range, sometimes three. I'll tee off with it on short par 4's, the ones that tempt you to get there with driver. Also, when I don't go for it in two on a par 5, I lay up with my 5 more than with anything else because I'm confident I won't mis-hit it. I'd say on average I use it at least twice a side, maybe more because it's my go to safety club after mis-hits or when I find trouble.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by COgruff on 2/21/2013 at 8:55 AM

    COgruff

  • Bridon Gueermo said...

    Not trying to be an ass, but how often do you hit a five iron in a round of golf? Two or three tops? I am not sure I even hit my five iron in an average round of golf.

    No beginner should need to hit that club yet. If you're playing from the back tees, a five iron is used a couple times a round. For me, usually on par 5's, or that one or two long 4's.

    7 iron. Always a begginers best friend. I would go to the range and just get consistent. You can't go get a lesson, until you've gotten the basics down. They can't tweak anything if you don't swing close to the same every time.

    My advice to everyone is go to the range and find your 100 yard club. Aim for the flags there. Just try and get close to being consistent. One you find that club, and can be somewhat consistent, it makes everything easier. Then go to the 150 yard flag. Almost every approach seems to be 100 or 150 on most courses.

    Golf is 90% mental. Just have fun. The advice about not getting mad because you aren't good enough is perfect. Grab a beer, head out with some friends, and good luck.

    VanWilder

  • Tupes said...

    Havent seen a comment on this yet....but play cheap balls. Or, dig into the club house water ball bin. Plan on losing them. And, don't spend more than a minute looking for them. A couple regulars I play with treat a ball like its worth $100 and spend the full PGA 5-minute rule looking around. Its maddening and slows down play. Nothing...I mean NOTHING....is worse that a weekend round where the group of hacks in front of you spend five minutes fanning out, deep in the woods.

    Always play with a spare in your pocket also, so after you've briefly looked around, you don't have to run all the way back to your bag and dig out a scuffed Pinnacle. Better yet, the ProV1 you just found that isn't yours, can suddenly become yours.

    I generally agree with this post, especially the cheap ball part.

    That said, I will point out that rules of golf dictate both a stroke and distance penalty on a lost ball (you need to go back and hit it from where your previous shot was). I also know that 90%+ of the time most people just take a stroke and drop one in the neighborhood of where it was lost.

    I am not trying to confuse the upstart golfer, just pointing out that there often exists a compromise between rules of golf, etiquette and the reality of playing on a crowded course.

    Know the rules, follow the rules as much as possible but don't golf like you are the only one out on the course.

    Bridon Gueermo

  • Be careful buying clubs on eBay. There are a lot of fakes. I got a set of clubs and I suspected they were fakes so I took one down to Dick's and compared it to the real thing and they were obviously not Taylor Mades. Fortunately, I was able to get my money back.

    Avoid anything coming out of Asia.

    spartan1979

  • Bridon Gueermo said...

    I generally agree with this post, especially the cheap ball part.

    That said, I will point out that rules of golf dictate both a stroke and distance penalty on a lost ball (you need to go back and hit it from where your previous shot was). I also know that 90%+ of the time most people just take a stroke and drop one in the neighborhood of where it was lost.

    I am not trying to confuse the upstart golfer, just pointing out that there often exists a compromise between rules of golf, etiquette and the reality of playing on a crowded course.

    Know the rules, follow the rules as much as possible but don't golf like you are the only one out on the course.

    Good point; although the reality is a beginner is likely to play crowded public courses where stroke and distance penalties are not realistic. Rules permit a provisional if you think its lost, so that would be a way to stay as close to the rules as you can.

    For my gang of hacks, we drop in the area we think we lost it, and play on. No one has raised an objection yet.

    Tupes

  • VanWilder said...

    If you're playing from the back tees, a five iron is used a couple times a round.

    Really? Given the vast amount of variation in back tees distance, player length and ability, and course strategy, you've managed to put a certain number on the amount of times a 5 iron is used in a round.

    That's just about the stupidest statement made in any golf thread I've come across here.

    COgruff

  • Learn the proper grip, stance, alignment. Keep head down and still. Hack away.

    Rodney Ruxin

  • COgruff said...

    Really? Given the vast amount of variation in back tees distance, player length and ability, and course strategy, you've managed to put a certain number on the amount of times a 5 iron is used in a round.

    That's just about the stupidest statement made in any golf thread I've come across here.

    Really? That I use a 5 iron a "couple times a round" is the stupidest statement ever?

    VanWilder

  • COgruff said...

    Really? Given the vast amount of variation in back tees distance, player length and ability, and course strategy, you've managed to put a certain number on the amount of times a 5 iron is used in a round.

    That's just about the stupidest statement made in any golf thread I've come across here.

    I was also quoting a guy who said he never uses one, right after I said no beginner should ever need to hit that club.... but whatever. Thanks for the comment.

    VanWilder

  • VanWilder said...

    Really? That I use a 5 iron a "couple times a round" is the stupidest statement ever?

    You said..... if you're playing from the back tees, a five iron is used a couple times a round.

    I take it you just made an error, because what you wrote doesn't read like you were talking about just yourself. You'd have to use words like "I" or "my" to make that clear. You said "you're ".

    This post was edited by COgruff on 2/21/2013 at 9:26 AM

    COgruff

  • Middle irons are usually the easiest to hit for a beginner. I remember my first set of starter clubs.

    Driver
    3 wood
    3 iron
    5 iron
    7 iron
    9 iron
    Pitching wedge
    Putter

    Hell, I could still use those clubs and be no worse off

    ClankyIronBoots

  • Droppedbyadime said...

    If you're talking about how women grade you, this is the closest post to likely truth I'd imagine.

    Lmao. You're not a Usga 4 unless you play 4 or more times a week. My best guess is you shot 4 over once in ur life. Likely in Saginaw, on farmland.

    Terrible schtick. Swinger , 4 handicap, poster. Hahahaha. Loser

    Not a schtick. I'm not sure why a few of you guys are deadset on that angle but you're way off base. And can a single guy even be considered a swinger? I'm not sure but it seems like a misplaced label.

    I've been playing golf since I was 5 years old. Family was a member of a country club till I was out of high school. I actually instruct as a part time job in the summer. Whether I'm a 4 or not, I really can't say for certain. I'm not a member of a club anymore and I haven't played in a tournament that requires a USGA hcp for a few years so I really don't need to maintain one. I'm just a publinxer who plays about twice a week when it's warm enough to play. I average around a 78. Best round this past season was a 2 under 70 at Pheasant Run (33-37).

    This post was edited by Bronco_Bahma on 2/21/2013 at 10:42 AM

    Bronco_Bahma

  • Zeno said...

    I've decided to finally take up golf when it starts to warm up. I understand completely what I'm getting into and it's okay, I'm only 23. Now, I've already started doing my research, reading everything I can. I'm going to be starting slow and not trying to bite off too much at once. I will be taking lessons and I'll be buying all of my equipment used when it comes to that time. I won't be buying whole sets and plan to start with the basics, most likely a driver, putter, SW, 6-iron, 8-iron, PW, and a fairway wood or hybrid (if you have any suggestions about this part let me know). I'll just piece them together over time, then add other clubs as my skill level increases. Here's the problem: I have now idea what brands or makers I should be on the lookout for. I know I need something that is tailored to beginners and is forgiving, but is still a quality club. I'm clueless as to which ones those would be. I've heard Ping, Cobra, and Titleist. Also, besides Ebay and Craigslist what are some good websites to look at? Help.

    Congrats and welcome. Like any great addiction you'll love it and hate it at the same time.

    If you're going to go to the expense of taking lessons and taking the sport seriously, just go ahead and buy a full set. The price of entry level sets have dropped dramatically, and most of the major manufacturers have one. If Nike, Taylor Made, Titleist, etc are a little out of your price range, check out Tommy Armours - they've always had a good reputation of making very good, basic clubs that are friendly and forgiving for amateurs.

    The great thing about golf is that there's always another goal to target. You'll start out just being happy with making contact or getting the ball up in the air, and before you know it you'll be grinding to shave that last stroke off of your handicap and become scratch like the rest of us.

    Enjoy (and keep moving if you're playing in front of me).

    Fletch

  • welcome to the world of hitting 1 shot per round like tiger....... then thinking you have it sussed, to be followed by shanking the next 10 shots into every available hazard...tree, pond, sand ect.....

    as other have said.... work on the short/medium game first....

    a lot of shops will have a club pro in them so take advice as to first club selections from them

    sarcyspice

  • Bronco_Bahma said...

    Not a schtick. I'm not sure why a few of you guys are deadset on that angle but you're way off base. And can a single guy even be considered a swinger? I'm not sure but it seems like a misplaced label.

    I've been playing golf since I was 5 years old. Family was a member of a country club till I was out of high school. I actually instruct as a part time job in the summer. Whether I'm a 4 or not, I really can't say for certain. I'm not a member of a club anymore and I haven't played in a tournament that requires a USGA hcp for a few years so I really don't need to maintain one. I'm just a publinxer who plays about twice a week when it's warm enough to play. I average around a 78. Best round this past season was a 2 under 70 at Pheasant Run (33-37).

    I was wrong, then. Do you wreck catamaran yachts for fun while moonlighting as an art thief, too ? God, I admire you Nucky. :)

    Ps to OP : Again, get cheap steel shafted clubs, hit the range 3xs more than any round, spend your $ on lessons and range time above all else.

    Droppedbyadime

  • I've been on this board since way before the transition from the old site and I barely even know who Nucky is. I know he stirs shit, that's about it. How you think that fits my MO I havent a clue. What shit have I stirred? Anyways, I've never found any interest in the reality tv that is the individual beefs that certain posters have with one another. You seem to enjoy it and all the power to ya. You're barking up the wrong tree though.

    Bronco_Bahma

  • Bridon Gueermo said...

    3) I will add to the list of mentioned clubs Mizuno irons. For my money they are the best ones on the market.

    If he does get mizuno... make sure to not get blade irons.

    maizegoblue

  • maizegoblue said...

    If he does get mizuno... make sure to not get blade irons.

    or anything forged. the perimeter-weighted clubs are so much easier to hit. I learned in the old days of forged irons and persimmon woods, the equipment has made huge strides since then. it's really too bad, a lot of really great old golf courses were ruined because of the new equipment. hazards that used to be in the landing area of better golfers now only catches the hacks. now all the new courses have tees over 7000 yards, so the advantage in nullified anyway. the usga and r&a really handled equipment badly. it did create a lot of sales for clubmakers though.

    Turf