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Archangel said...
I wondered how long it would take for this to make it to the board. This poor guy gets vilified for stating what has been documented in countless other places for the sake of political correctness. What is this world coming to?
This post was edited by Cym Jim on 4/18/2011 at 9:40 PM
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Nucky Thompson said...
He crossed the line? Give me a break.
Even all the weenie people from Ann Arbor are commenting that this is bullshit. He made a hilarious(non crude) joke that fell 100% in line with his findings. For a journal being published near valentines day, the only people taking offense to this are women who haven't been laid in quite some time.
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Optiking said...
They had a comments section at the end of the article and "Alan" gave the best answer in my opinion and one I totally agree with...
"The doctor quoted a respected SUNY study which found a strong correlation between depression and condom use. The study also found, among women who did not regularly use condoms, a correlation between depression and length of abstinence. Semen contains a variety of psychoactive hormones including testosterone, estrogen, and a variety of prostaglandins which are absorbed and can be detected in the bloodstream after sex. The result is not a big surprise. Maybe the doctor could have been a little more careful (the chocolates comment) but we all suffer when legitimate scientific study is subject to a political correctness test. How one extrapolates to the conclusion that the doctor is sexist is beyond me."
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Cym Jim said...
No, this one was far more informed:
"As a physician and medical educator at a major medical center, let me be clear, there is no excuse for this "editorial" (yes, I read the whole thing by following the link). Medical educators are required (in order to maintain accreditation) to teach "professionalism" to our physician trainees. The editorial is not consistent with that message. If the author of the editorial wanted to opine about human sexuality in academic or humorous ways, there were many other venues for him to do so. Instead, he used his professional stature in the field of surgery and an official publication of the American College of Surgeons for his thoughts on this topic. In doing so, he has promoted persistent sexist viewpoints that have damaged the practice of medicine, and, more acutely, the practice of surgery, for way too long. This was a serious error on the part of the author and the American College of Surgeons. A sad day for equality, indeed."
Fred G Iowa City, IA
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Cym Jim said...
No, this one was far more informed:
"As a physician and medical educator at a major medical center, let me be clear, there is no excuse for this "editorial" (yes, I read the whole thing by following the link). Medical educators are required (in order to maintain accreditation) to teach "professionalism" to our physician trainees. The editorial is not consistent with that message. If the author of the editorial wanted to opine about human sexuality in academic or humorous ways, there were many other venues for him to do so. Instead, he used his professional stature in the field of surgery and an official publication of the American College of Surgeons for his thoughts on this topic. In doing so, he has promoted persistent sexist viewpoints that have damaged the practice of medicine, and, more acutely, the practice of surgery, for way too long. This was a serious error on the part of the author and the American College of Surgeons. A sad day for equality, indeed."
Fred G Iowa City, IA
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DMBSparty said...
Well in my experiences with Doctors and even nurses is that a little humor can help the situation. Hell I was just in the delivery room with my wife last week and even the nurses and Dr. said it made their day because it was so calm and we were even joking with the guy who put in the epideral (yes I cannot spell the actuall title). He was an MSU grad and said that he would give us the Spartan Special, I was wearing an MSU hoodie and we got to talking about how we (me, my wife and him) graduated from MSU. And he joked that if it was a UM hoodie he may miss the spine a few times. Of course he was not being serious but humor goes a long way. Hell I had my wife laughing during and after labor. And even when we were leaving the hospital my wifes OB looked at me and joked that I would not be having sex for at least 6 weeks. I responded "with my wife!" insinuating that I would have sex with someone else, and the Dr who is a woman and my wife both laughed. I would rather have a Doctor with a little bedside humor than a robot.
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CA Sparty said...
Science and Research: 0 Political Correctness: 1
Pretty sad in a country that claims to value free speech that a doctor who presents his findings is forced to resign b/c, "The College received numerous communications from the surgical community about the editorial." "Numerous communications" could be 4 people who complained. How long before we get to a point where a doctor has to conduct and on line poll to make sure all of his/her colleagues are okay with them performing a procedure.
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DMBSparty said...
Well in my experiences with Doctors and even nurses is that a little humor can help the situation. Hell I was just in the delivery room with my wife last week and even the nurses and Dr. said it made their day because it was so calm and we were even joking with the guy who put in the epideral (yes I cannot spell the actuall title). He was an MSU grad and said that he would give us the Spartan Special, I was wearing an MSU hoodie and we got to talking about how we (me, my wife and him) graduated from MSU. And he joked that if it was a UM hoodie he may miss the spine a few times. Of course he was not being serious but humor goes a long way. Hell I had my wife laughing during and after labor. And even when we were leaving the hospital my wifes OB looked at me and joked that I would not be having sex for at least 6 weeks. I responded "with my wife!" insinuating that I would have sex with someone else, and the Dr who is a woman and my wife both laughed. I would rather have a Doctor with a little bedside humor than a robot.
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