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Seriously, NFL, Lions game

  • I am a Lions fan, but I laugh more than root. But today the idea of 60 plus year old referees calling a game with 20 year old men playing just seemed silly..
    Come on, I would think anyone over 40 has no business trying to officiate a game with the the type of speed and talent on the field.
    With the money involved, you would think college and pro athletics would train and hire men in their 20's an30's ,to officiate these games and keep pace with
    the action on the field. After the Lions game today, I would have fired the whole crew, including the monkeys in the review booth, and I'm not even a betting man.
    If football in general wants to keep their credibility, they need to fix this officiating problem. Men in their 60's should not be officiating anything other than a senior league
    flag football game.

    grateful dad

  • If they know the rules, then i don't see a problem

    jwarsenal9

  • Maybe if they weren't an immature undisciplined team who's coaches ego is bigger than his ability to lead this team they wouldn't have to worry how old the refs are.

    youngdrew

  • jwarsenal9 said...

    If they know the rules, then i don't see a problem

    If Schwartz knew the rules there wouldnt have been a problem. He threw the red flag on a touchdown last year and got penalized for it how the hell does he do it again this year?

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    victory4msu25

  • victory4msu25 said...

    If Schwartz knew the rules there wouldnt have been a problem. He threw the red flag on a touchdown last year and got penalized for it how the hell does he do it again this year?

    If the refs got the call right in the first place, there wouldn't be a problem.

    Beardy

  • victory4msu25 said...

    If Schwartz knew the rules there wouldnt have been a problem. He threw the red flag on a touchdown last year and got penalized for it how the hell does he do it again this year?

    The rule was added this year. In response to issues including another Ref screw up in the Green Bay game where the Lions had to waste their challenges on poor calls leaving them with nothing left to challenge a TD by Titus Young.

    Also, there is no guarantee the play would be overturned. Even though the booth is set to review all scores, they still have to notify the officials about their review. If they fail, the extra point is kicked. The fact remains the system needs to be reviewed as their is no excuse such a play is allowed to stand as any penalty would have rendered a review impossible.

    It was another monumental screw up by the NFL officials.

    scimini

  • Beardy said...

    If the refs got the call right in the first place, there wouldn't be a problem.

    I know but they didnt. Schwartz job in that situation was even easier than the refs. Wait for them to say its under review and let them correct their mistake. The guy coaches an indiscipline, shitty football team, but them guys did everything they had to do to win today and him not knowing the rule screwed them in the end.

    This post was edited by victory4msu25 on 11/22/2012 at 10:27 PM

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  • scimini said...

    The rule was added this year. In response to issues including another Ref screw up in the Green Bay game where the Lions had to waste their challenges on poor calls leaving them with nothing left to challenge a TD by Titus Young.

    Also, there is no guarantee the play would be overturned. Even though the booth is set to review all scores, they still have to notify the officials about their review. If they fail, the extra point is kicked. The fact remains the system needs to be reviewed as their is no excuse such a play is allowed to stand as any penalty would have rendered a review impossible.

    It was another monumental screw up by the NFL officials.

    What was it that he got penalized for against the 49ers last year then?

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  • Beardy said...

    If the refs got the call right in the first place, there wouldn't be a problem.

    By "getting it right", do you mean blowing a quick whistle on a close play? I seem to recall that biting MSU in the ass earlier this season vs. O$U. I'd rather the refs err on the side of eating their whistles and let the play finish itself out...then having the option of overturning it upon review if they were wrong. Quick whistles take away that option...

    Today's play was all on Schwartz for not knowing the damn replay rules...

    VinAZ

  • VinAZ said...

    By "getting it right", do you mean blowing a quick whistle on a close play? I seem to recall that biting MSU in the ass earlier this season vs. O$U. I'd rather the refs err on the side of eating their whistles and let the play finish itself out...then having the option of overturning it upon review if they were wrong. Quick whistles take away that option...

    Today's play was all on Schwartz for not knowing the damn replay rules...

    The player's elbow and knee were down and it wasn't even close.

    Beardy

  • I still want to know how they f'ed up that punt that clearly hit a Texan and changed direction. Refs really hosed the Lions today.

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    277Gunson

  • 277Gunson said...

    I still want to know how they f'ed up that punt that clearly hit a Texan and changed direction. Refs really hosed the Lions today.

    This IMO was the biggest blunder of the day by the officials.

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  • Beardy said...

    If the refs got the call right in the first place, there wouldn't be a problem.

    Exactly.

    Something is really f'd up if the right call doesn't matter and the f up by the officials is overruled by a red flag thrown by someone on the sideline, How the f do the refs know these assine rules like when the red flag is supposed to be thrown, but can't get the OBVIOUS call that someone is down by contact. Refs need to get the OBVIOUS calls and then they don't have to worry about arcane rules like when it's the 'right' time to throw a little red panty.

    It's like the coach/team is punished for the fuck up by the refs. I'm not a Lions fan or even care about the NFL games at all. But after being in SS every Sat, I would like to see a well officiated game football game just once this year.

    Frank Ricard

  • VinAZ said...

    By "getting it right", do you mean blowing a quick whistle on a close play? I seem to recall that biting MSU in the ass earlier this season vs. O$U. I'd rather the refs err on the side of eating their whistles and let the play finish itself out...then having the option of overturning it upon review if they were wrong. Quick whistles take away that option...

    Today's play was all on Schwartz for not knowing the damn replay rules...

    When a little red flag is thrown has nothing to do with what happened on the field. It shouldn't come down to some technicality overruling a piss poor call. This rule lets the fucking refs off the hook with no repercussions.

    It's not the Lions fault the officials fuck up. I wouldn't have trusted replay either. They CLEARLY f'd up on the muff punt earlier, so who's to say if they would have overturned this.

    I don't know how, but Jim Delany is somehow behind this.

    This post was edited by Frank Ricard on 11/23/2012 at 4:55 AM

    Frank Ricard

  • I don't understand, replay after a score unless a red flag is thrown? Because the coach is contesting the play, which was going to be looked at anyway? His team now can't benefit? Why wouldn't they just pick up the flag and say "it's already being reviewed?"

    It is a fucking nonsensical rule, just like if you catch the ball in the end zone, have two feet on the ground, get tackled, then lose the ball it some how wasn't a catch. As the lions know too well

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    Dr Leo Spaceman

  • Dr Leo Spaceman said...

    I don't understand, replay after a score unless a red flag is thrown? Because the coach is contesting the play, which was going to be looked at anyway? His team now can't benefit? Why wouldn't they just pick up the flag and say "it's already being reviewed?"

    It is a fucking nonsensical rule, just like if you catch the ball in the end zone, have two feet on the ground, get tackled, then lose the ball it some how wasn't a catch. As the lions know too well

    Watching yesterday's game reminded me why I don't watch the NFL the other 22 weeks of the year.

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  • Beardy said...

    The player's elbow and knee were down and it wasn't even close.

    In slow motion, it wasn't close. At regular speed, it was close, which is why there were exactly zero whistles blown. That play didn't even get 1 quick whistle. The Schwartz was as impatient as the team he coaches and it cost the Lions.

    Vegas Vic

  • Dr Leo Spaceman said...

    I don't understand, replay after a score unless a red flag is thrown? Because the coach is contesting the play, which was going to be looked at anyway? His team now can't benefit? Why wouldn't they just pick up the flag and say "it's already being reviewed?"

    It is a fucking nonsensical rule, just like if you catch the ball in the end zone, have two feet on the ground, get tackled, then lose the ball it some how wasn't a catch. As the lions know too well

    The rule itself is a complete joke BUT maybe after this controversal play it will force the NFL in the offseason to make revisions to the actual rule.

    Being called a sunshine blower is not insulting to me and I'm proud to be one.

    SpartyFever ●

  • Re: SF call last year.

    That was Harbaugh throwing the flag on a non-reviewable play (whistle blown).

    Not the same situation, as he was penalized 15 yards, but it couldn't be reviewed anyway. This taking away the ability to review the play is moranic and will be the first item to be changed by the rules committee this year, according to the "expert" of Fox.

    Ironic though, was Schwartz yelling across the field "know the fucking rules" at Harbaugh last year.

    This post was edited by Larry Kazamias on 11/23/2012 at 6:14 AM

    Larry Kazamias ●

  • Larry Kazamias said...

    Re: SF call last year.

    That was Harbaugh throwing the flag on a non-reviewable play (whistle blown).

    Not the same situation, as he was penalized 15 yards, but it couldn't be reviewed anyway. This taking away the ability to review the play is moranic and will be the first item to be changed by the rules committee this year, according to the "expert" of Fox.

    Ironic though, was Schwartz yelling across the field "know the fucking rules" at Harbaugh last year.

    This. Why the hell should what Schwartz did cause the play not to be able to be reviewed? That makes zero sense.

    MSchott

  • Vegas Vic said...

    In slow motion, it wasn't close. At regular speed, it was close, which is why there were exactly zero whistles blown. That play didn't even get 1 quick whistle. The Schwartz was as impatient as the team he coaches and it cost the Lions.

    it was a lot more obvious than Andre Johnson in overtime, and the whistle was blown quickly on that one.

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  • You guys sound like Spartan fans in here. lol

    Carolina Sparty

  • victory4msu25 said...

    I know but they didnt. Schwartz job in that situation was even easier than the refs. Wait for them to say its under review and let them correct their mistake. The guy coaches an indiscipline, shitty football team, but them guys did everything they had to do to win today and him not knowing the rule screwed them in the end.

    Just like Carolina waiting for the review of Denver's punt return for a TD where he flipped the ball before crossing the goal line and the play wasn't reviewed.

    There is no guarantee the play will be reviewed.

    scimini

  • scimini said...

    Just like Carolina waiting for the review of Denver's punt return for a TD where he flipped the ball before crossing the goal line and the play wasn't reviewed.

    There is no guarantee the play will be reviewed.

    Isn't every score reviewed?

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    DWags ●

  • Watching the NFL is getting like filing out my taxes. the reason instant replay exists is to get the play right on the field. If Schwartz incorrectly carried the amount from box 5b to form 8c fine penalize him but at least still give him the credit for filing the return.

    jimmyr2021

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