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Seriously, what is the appeal of hunting in 2012?

  • Dendrobates said...

    I have no problems with hunting, as long as it's a non-endangered animal.

    Side thing though....I am a big baby even if I run over a squirrel or raccoon.

    That's hot!

    LoneWolfSparty

  • Spartan-Pride said...

    Always seemed incredibly self centered to me to end somethings life for several hours of "entertainment"

    Please tell us of your undying self-giving in all of your life's actions, oh ye on a pedestal!

    This post was edited by LoneWolfSparty on 6/1/2012 at 9:57 PM

    LoneWolfSparty

  • I've read all 7 pages of this thread and surprised no one has bought up one of the most important aspects of hunting: Money. The Pittman-Robertson act of 1937 contributes money that hunters spend on guns, ammo, hunting supplies, etc to provide stable, reliable funding to manage the nations and states natural resources. Nationally, the P-R act has contributed $6.8 billion dollars to help fund all aspects of natural resources. Parks, hiking trails, scenic overlooks, wood duck habitat, kirtland warbler habitat, state and national parks/forests, etc. In other words, hunter monies fund many of the things non-hunters enjoy.
    At the state level, the P-R act has contributed $249 million to this cause in Michigan alone. All of you non-hunters complaining about the killing of animals, and that we should just enjoy the outdoors without the killing would not have any of these outdoor opportunities without hunting and hunters monies pouring in. The Michigan DNR Wildlife Division conservation programs are entirely self-funded from the P-R Act. Other divisions and programs are also largely funded, or partly funded by the money that hunters pay.
    The Dingell-Johnson Act, passed in 1950 is similar to the P-R act, but for fishing. Nationally, 7 billion and state wide in Michigan, 244 million have been spent helping fisheries habitat throughout the nation and state.
    Aside from that, to me, the best part of hunting is not the killing - but sitting out in the woods enjoying nature. Watching the animals when you know they have no idea you're there is priceless. The actual killing of the animal constitutes about 1% of the time I spend "hunting". Scouting, sitting in the woods, walking around with my kids, teaching them about the outdoors, etc constitutes the other 99% and is by far the best part of "hunting".
    Lastly, the non-hunters need to realize that animals are a renewable resource. You are not thinking big picture. You are only thinking about that single animal instead of the herd, or population of the species - whichever it might be.

    This post was edited by SpartyOn82 on 6/2/2012 at 6:59 AM

    SpartyOn82 ●

  • Sorry, didn't read the whole thread. The biggest issue I have with bear hunting is where is the sport? Maybe I am missing how some of it is done, but from the people I have talked to there is not much sport to it. Put out something to lure the bear to you. Sit in a nice safe spot. Kill the bear while he is going after the bait and is essentially a sitting duck. Now, if you went into an area with lots of bears, tracked one down, and killed him face to face that would be sporting.

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  • What? Like not killing things for fun?

    That's not really giving, just not being a dick.

    SpartanPride204

  • JEK said...

    You can, of course, have multiple reasons to do something. I just think it's disingenuous when hunters downplay and act like they don't actually get their rocks off by killing things.


    If you want to shit and spew simultaneously, you have to do the animal from a helicopter. Forget that whole "This is my rifle this is my gun" thing. The two become interchangeable.

    "Look at this. An entire generation of Cinderellas, and there's no glass slipper coming." -- Mother in ALMOST FAMOUS

    GreenMeany ●

  • DMBSparty said...

    We don't "get our rocks off". You have no idea what the hell you are talking about. You have no idea how many hours are spent in the woods compared to animals taken. Hours upon hours are spent scouting, setting up a stand, and just sitting there or walking around. It would be much easier to go to Kroger and get "my rocks off" by buying a couple steaks in 15 minutes.

    You are full of shit. You don't go hunting to kill animals? At least Tony Clifton, and some others in this thread, have the balls to admit it.

    "RCMB: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainry." - some dude from MgoBlog

    JEK ●

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  • SpartyOn82 said...

    I've read all 7 pages of this thread and surprised no one has bought up one of the most important aspects of hunting: Money. The Pittman-Robertson act of 1937 contributes money that hunters spend on guns, ammo, hunting supplies, etc to provide stable, reliable funding to manage the nations and states natural resources. Nationally, the P-R act has contributed $6.8 billion dollars to help fund all aspects of natural resources. Parks, hiking trails, scenic overlooks, wood duck habitat, kirtland warbler habitat, state and national parks/forests, etc. In other words, hunter monies fund many of the things non-hunters enjoy. At the state level, the P-R act has contributed $249 million to this cause in Michigan alone. All of you non-hunters complaining about the killing of animals, and that we should just enjoy the outdoors without the killing would not have any of these outdoor opportunities without hunting and hunters monies pouring in. The Michigan DNR Wildlife Division conservation programs are entirely self-funded from the P-R Act. Other divisions and programs are also largely funded, or partly funded by the money that hunters pay. The Dingell-Johnson Act, passed in 1950 is similar to the P-R act, but for fishing. Nationally, 7 billion and state wide in Michigan, 244 million have been spent helping fisheries habitat throughout the nation and state. Aside from that, to me, the best part of hunting is not the killing - but sitting out in the woods enjoying nature. Watching the animals when you know they have no idea you're there is priceless. The actual killing of the animal constitutes about 1% of the time I spend "hunting". Scouting, sitting in the woods, walking around with my kids, teaching them about the outdoors, etc constitutes the other 99% and is by far the best part of "hunting". Lastly, the non-hunters need to realize that animals are a renewable resource. You are not thinking big picture. You are only thinking about that single animal instead of the herd, or population of the species - whichever it might be.


    You're right. This is a benefit of hunting. It doesn't have to be, but it is. I mean, we could just budget for these things without having hunters pay for it. I mean, it's a little like having vending machines in schools. They provide money that the schools need--because school budgets have been cut. But yes, if people are determined to cut school budgets, then the vending machines become necessary ... rising rates of childhood obesity and diabetes be damned.

    Also, another benefit related to your post is that some hunters actually become interested in the environment. Should their hobby be the only reason they take an interest in the environment? In a perfect world, no. But this is far from a perfect world. NOTE TO SELF: spread a rumor that global warming is reducing the populations of game for hunting.

    "Look at this. An entire generation of Cinderellas, and there's no glass slipper coming." -- Mother in ALMOST FAMOUS

    GreenMeany ●

  • Meat is murder.

    Tasty, tasty murder!

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    SpartanNachos ●

  • SpartanNachos said...

    Meat is murder.

    Tasty, tasty murder!


    Hey, I eat it. But at least I don't kid myself. I know I'm a shit for doing so. ... and I applaud people who go vegetarian for moral reasons. In that respect, at least, they are morally superior to me.

    "Look at this. An entire generation of Cinderellas, and there's no glass slipper coming." -- Mother in ALMOST FAMOUS

    GreenMeany ●

  • GreenMeany said...

    Hey, I eat it. But at least I don't kid myself. I know I'm a shit for doing so. ... and I applaud people who go vegetarian for moral reasons. In that respect, at least, they are morally superior to me.

    You're shit for eating meat? confused

    xxmgobluexx ●

  • LoneWolfSparty said...

    Waste of time doesn't prevent you from frequenting this site. Just sayin.............

    You have over 1,000 more posts than I do, you geezer. You also have the worst avatar on this entire forum.

    What is that, a Titleist? A hole in one...

    Cosmo_Kramer

  • GreenMeany said...

    Also, another benefit related to your post is that some hunters actually become interested in the environment. Should their hobby be the only reason they take an interest in the environment? In a perfect world, no. But this is far from a perfect world. NOTE TO SELF: spread a rumor that global warming is reducing the populations of game for hunting.

    Actually, responsible hunters care more about the environment than anyone else I know - and I work in the environmental field. After all, if the environment goes bad, and all of the animals are gone, their "hobby" is over.

    SpartyOn82 ●

  • SpartyOn82 said...

    Actually, responsible hunters care more about the environment than anyone else I know - and I work in the environmental field. After all, if the environment goes bad, and all of the animals are gone, their "hobby" is over.


    How does this agree with what I said. I said one benefit of hunting is that a lot of hunters care about the environment. It's a little sad that the only reason they care about the environment is because the great outdoors are the sandbox they play in, but yes, many of them do care about the environment.

    "Look at this. An entire generation of Cinderellas, and there's no glass slipper coming." -- Mother in ALMOST FAMOUS

    GreenMeany ●

  • JEK said...

    You are full of shit. You don't go hunting to kill animals? At least Tony Clifton, and some others in this thread, have the balls to admit it.

    Yes I go hunting to kill animals, however I am not angry if I don't kill one. It isn't all about the kill, but yes taking whatever you are hunting is a bonus.

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    DMBSparty

  • SpartyOn82 said...

    I've read all 7 pages of this thread and surprised no one has bought up one of the most important aspects of hunting: Money. The Pittman-Robertson act of 1937 contributes money that hunters spend on guns, ammo, hunting supplies, etc to provide stable, reliable funding to manage the nations and states natural resources. Nationally, the P-R act has contributed $6.8 billion dollars to help fund all aspects of natural resources. Parks, hiking trails, scenic overlooks, wood duck habitat, kirtland warbler habitat, state and national parks/forests, etc. In other words, hunter monies fund many of the things non-hunters enjoy. At the state level, the P-R act has contributed $249 million to this cause in Michigan alone. All of you non-hunters complaining about the killing of animals, and that we should just enjoy the outdoors without the killing would not have any of these outdoor opportunities without hunting and hunters monies pouring in. The Michigan DNR Wildlife Division conservation programs are entirely self-funded from the P-R Act. Other divisions and programs are also largely funded, or partly funded by the money that hunters pay. The Dingell-Johnson Act, passed in 1950 is similar to the P-R act, but for fishing. Nationally, 7 billion and state wide in Michigan, 244 million have been spent helping fisheries habitat throughout the nation and state. Aside from that, to me, the best part of hunting is not the killing - but sitting out in the woods enjoying nature. Watching the animals when you know they have no idea you're there is priceless. The actual killing of the animal constitutes about 1% of the time I spend "hunting". Scouting, sitting in the woods, walking around with my kids, teaching them about the outdoors, etc constitutes the other 99% and is by far the best part of "hunting". Lastly, the non-hunters need to realize that animals are a renewable resource. You are not thinking big picture. You are only thinking about that single animal instead of the herd, or population of the species - whichever it might be.

    I brought up that hunters monies paid for the state land that all the non hunters like to go mountain biking, and hiking on. But they all forget that. We are all just a bunch of killers.

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    DMBSparty

  • I've hunted white tail for years and have made two hog hunting trips. Looking for something new. Anybody here ever hunt exotics? Good recommendations?

    Tony Clifton

  • Howler said...

    Maybe I'm a stereotypical liberal, but when I saw this recent photo of James Vandenberg, I lost a little respect for him. I find hunting for sport to be a little despicable.

    I don't hunt, never have, never will. It is not appealing to me. But my father and brother did, and I can see the allure of being in the woods for some quiet time in nature, ESPECIALLY now in 2012. We ate what Dad shot and brought home. There was never a trophy rack on the wall. Those that hunt for that reason are the very small minority.

    The economy in the state makes millions through licenses and tourism and travel dollars, etc from hunters. Take your queasiness and STFU.

    My Blood Runs Green.....

    jartan77

  • jartan77 said...

    I don't hunt, never have, never will. It is not appealing to me. But my father and brother did, and I can see the allure of being in the woods for some quiet time in nature, ESPECIALLY now in 2012. We ate what Dad shot and brought home. There was never a trophy rack on the wall. Those that hunt for that reason are the very small minority.

    The economy in the state makes millions through licenses and tourism and travel dollars, etc from hunters. Take your queasiness and STFU.

    Very good post from a non hunter. The silence is very nice, the food is great, sometimes a trophy is an added bonus, however most people are like me and hunt more for the meat. Although I do know a lot of people that "Trophy" hunt. I also have met people that Deer hunt, but don't eat Venison that donate the meat to soup kitchens. When I was working for the Feds and taking deer out of Airports, we donated all the meat to soup kitchens.

    More people should have the attitude that you do. If you don't want to hunt, don't. But don't knock the people that do. And trust me a lot of hunters do not like the Idiot hunters that give %95 of us a bad name. You don't hear about the hunters who do everything right, follow every law, help keep the woods clean, all you hear about is the hunters that poach, hunt drunk, shoot their hunting partners etc...

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    DMBSparty

  • Howler said...

    Maybe I'm a stereotypical liberal, but when I saw this recent photo of James Vandenberg, I lost a little respect for him. I find hunting for sport to be a little despicable.

    what does 2012 have to do with it?

    spartanMF ●

  • Tony Clifton said...

    I've hunted white tail for years and have made two hog hunting trips. Looking for something new. Anybody here ever hunt exotics? Good recommendations?


    Hunger game. It's only moral though if you eat it afterwards. Otherwise people will accuse you of killing for pleasure.

    "Look at this. An entire generation of Cinderellas, and there's no glass slipper coming." -- Mother in ALMOST FAMOUS

    GreenMeany ●

  • Howler said...

    Maybe I'm a stereotypical liberal, but when I saw this recent photo of James Vandenberg, I lost a little respect for him. I find hunting for sport to be a little despicable.

    Because he got a picture of his kill? You are a stereotypical liberal douche.

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    277Gunson

  • 277Gunson said...

    Because he got a picture of his kill? You are a stereotypical liberal douche.


    Says the stereotypical conservative douche.

    "Look at this. An entire generation of Cinderellas, and there's no glass slipper coming." -- Mother in ALMOST FAMOUS

    GreenMeany ●

  • GreenMeany said...

    Says the stereotypical conservative douche.

    Says the stereotypical liberal loudmouth.

    LoneWolfSparty

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