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  • Do the 3 stooges get their full pensions while they go thru this lawsuit

    SpartanHoops

  • JEK said...

    Yeah, the BCS pretty much ruined college football, or at least greatly watered it down. The system is such that there is little to no incentive to play good teams out of conference. Yet the BCS honks (the few that remain) claim the regular season is what makes college football so special. Yeah, basically an entire month of 50 point beat downs over Bumfuck U and Northwest Occidental A&M are really great for the product. no

    The only thing that makes September football even tolerable is the fact us diehards have been waiting so long for college football, that a game...ANY game... is a refreshing sight.

    Now that the new post season system puts emphasis, to some degree, on strength of schedule, hopefully we will see some better out of conference match ups.

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  • Fletch said...

    There is now evidence that their leadership knew what Jerry Sandusky did and chose not to report it. I want nothing to do with this piece of **** institution. No way can we count on the NCAA to do the right thing. The B10 presidents need to boot these sick bastards now.

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  • Spartyshannon said...

    Just because a handful of administrators failed to do their jobs does not mean the student body and alumni base should be penalized. If our blessed University were in this position, I would want those punished who turned a blind eye, but not the University as a whole nor their alumni who had no idea anything so sick was taking place on the University grounds.

    Its not that simple.

    First off, there needs to be a clear message sent to all institutions that this kind of shit is not going to go unpunished. Yeah, it may be a bit unfair to punish EVERYONE at PSU, but sometimes its just part of the equation. The fact is, the most powerful people at the university (and who knows to what extent how many others knew) knowingly looked the other way to enable a man to rape kids on their campus. I mean, think about it for a second. Curley and Spainer obviously knew about the guy being a pedophile from their emails. Paterno obviously knew as well.

    When the FBI gets done with their investigation, its going to look pretty bad. This is why an institution getting out of control big is a horrible thing. Nobody dared to try and damage JoePa's baby, so nothing was ever done. I mean, we have no idea how many times Sandusky even did this shit on the campus, but I bet a lot of times to a lot of different people. Truly sick.

    A harsh penalty needs to be sent. It also needs to be clear that you will be PROTECTED if you are willing to come forth with allegations like these. Truly pitiful that this all happened.

    This post was edited by Punisher99 on 6/30/2012 at 1:52 PM

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  • I want PSU and Nebraska out.

    Spartans ATTACK

  • Fletch said...

    There is now evidence that their leadership knew what Jerry Sandusky did and chose not to report it. I want nothing to do with this piece of **** institution. No way can we count on the NCAA to do the right thing. The B10 presidents need to boot these sick bastards now.

    Nah, PSU is an institution made up of hundreds of thousands. Those sick bastards were wrong but there are plenty of great PSU alumni.

    Harry Callahan

  • To the people espousing this defense of PSU - did UM not deserve probation or penalties related to the Fab Five? Why was an entire school and it's fans punished after the fact for something a select few players and coaches did?

    Fletch

  • Fletch said...

    To the people espousing this defense of PSU - did UM not deserve probation or penalties related to the Fab Five? Why was an entire school and it's fans punished after the fact for something a select few players and coaches did?

    Yeah the "only a few did this" argument simply does not fly.

    This is child rape. There is absolutely no excuse for it to be knowingly ignored, and absolutely no way it can go unpunished. I don't know about kicking them out of the Big Ten, but their football program should not get to play for a year.

    This post was edited by Punisher99 on 6/30/2012 at 2:43 PM

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  • All of Germany shouldn't have been held responsible for a few mistakes its leaders made.

    Fletch

  • Big Ten is an academic organization as well as an athletics group. PSU has been a fantastic research institution throughout its membership.

    If you want to ban PSU from football for a couple years, then that makes sense. It's a serious crime that should have serious consequences. But kicking the university out of the B1G, would essentially cripple the school from an academic standpoint - that is overkill.

    Royal

  • Fletch said...

    To the people espousing this defense of PSU - did UM not deserve probation or penalties related to the Fab Five? Why was an entire school and it's fans punished after the fact for something a select few players and coaches did?

    The issue isn't whether the institution as a whole should be punished, it's whether it should be kicked out of the Big Ten...which is obviously unreasonable.

    "RCMB: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainry." - some dude from MgoBlog

    JEK

  • Royal said...

    Big Ten is an academic organization as well as an athletics group. PSU has been a fantastic research institution throughout its membership.

    If you want to ban PSU from football for a couple years, then that makes sense. It's a serious crime that should have serious consequences. But kicking the university out of the B1G, would essentially cripple the school from an academic standpoint - that is overkill.

    Modern day conferences are nothing but organizations formed to maximize athletic revenue. The argument that they are academic associations is as sincere as calling football players "student athletes."

    Please tell me you don't think the recent conference realignments have ANYTHING to do with academics.

    PSU gained entry to the B10 because they had achieved national prominence in football and could bring revenue to the table. Their academic qualifications were secondary.

    Fletch

  • Fletch said...

    Modern day conferences are nothing but organizations formed to maximize athletic revenue. The argument that they are academic associations is as sincere as calling football players "student athletes."

    Please tell me you don't think the recent conference realignments have ANYTHING to do with academics.

    PSU gained entry to the B10 because they had achieved national prominence in football and could bring revenue to the table. Their academic qualifications were secondary.

    you're missing the point - what would happen to the university, as an academic institution, if they are kicked out of the B1G??? If your answer is "nothing" then I'm happy with letting you win the argument.

    Royal

  • Fletch said...

    Modern day conferences are nothing but organizations formed to maximize athletic revenue. The argument that they are academic associations is as sincere as calling football players "student athletes."

    Please tell me you don't think the recent conference realignments have ANYTHING to do with academics.

    PSU gained entry to the B10 because they had achieved national prominence in football and could bring revenue to the table. Their academic qualifications were secondary.

    Your sanctimonious attitude is so eloquent.

    ErnieMcCracken

  • D.Wags said...

    This. We are not without warts and PSU got rid of the offenders.

    nerd Only after they got caught.

    Izzo Court

  • The tragedy at Penn State doesn't reflect bad feelings towards the B10. The University has and will continue to pay for the lack of action and leadership. People died, lives were ruined and the name was tarnished. Why keep kicking a dead horse?

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  • I did my grad work at Penn State. The whole situation makes me sick. Part of me wants to just forget that I ever even went there and just be a Spartan, although I remember having a lot of good times there with a lot of good folks that I'm still friends with and probably will be for a long time.

    On one hand, I'll respect whatever punishment is doled out to Penn State. For what happened, they deserve anything reasonable that they'd get. The culture is a lot more insular than at MSU and I'd have a hard time believing it would happen here. But do keep in mind that it's easy as MSU fans to sit on our pedestals when something like that happens to others, while forgetting that there are real people out there, just like you, where the only difference is that they had the "misfortune" of going there for school or working at Penn State.

    cbmsu01

  • They should get the death penalty. Imagine if one of those boys raped was one of your son.

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    CalvinsJohnson8

  • Where do i sign...PSU should be a B1G former member.

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  • Blackthorne said...

    Reverse it. If four or five people made horrific decisions at MSU, would you want us kicked out of the Big Ten?

    Having to do with a child molester, then yes. I can fucking guarantee, I would be done with this university.

    roman

  • buckeyesparty said...

    Ah, for the good ole days! sarcasm

    However, there is some merit in this. Could go to a FULL confernce schedule. No doubt who is the champ. If a tied overall conf record, since all teams would play each other, head-to-head would be the tie-breaker. Nothing could cleaner in deciding the conf champ!! Alas, the trend is in the opposite direction...large, multi-division confernces with CCG $$.

    As we see in basketball, teams can tie and tie H2H.

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  • buckeyesparty said...

    Tend to agree. The board did act decisively, to the derision of their fans (and interestingly, to Coach K of Duke). They did the right thing quickly. Immediately cleaned house. May need to do more house keeping as more facts come to light.

    I hope you are kidding. They didn't act definitively when they knew about the allegations...they did nothing (FOR 10 YEARS AT LEAST) to prevent Sandusky from continuing to use his PSU access to the program and buildings to facilitate the rape of young boys...they only acted once the rest of us found out about the ass-raping of kids.

    Keep in mind that while Sandusky hadn't been employed by PSU since 1998, when this story broke about a year ago, he still had keys to the PSU football building, and had been seen taking a young boy into the building a week or two before the story went public.

    How many kids were raped AFTER PSU and Paterno decided to cover this up?

    Rodeo Burger

  • Fletch said...

    To the people espousing this defense of PSU - did UM not deserve probation or penalties related to the Fab Five? Why was an entire school and it's fans punished after the fact for something a select few players and coaches did?

    Apples and oranges dude. They're not getting kicked out of the Big 10; this was not an on-field, competition issue. It was beyond horrific, but the punishment will be the school losing a huge chunk of its endowment, as well as the hit on its reputation.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Apples and oranges dude. They're not getting kicked out of the Big 10; this was not an on-field, competition issue. It was beyond horrific, but the punishment will be the school losing a huge chunk of its endowment, as well as the hit on its reputation.

    Seriously. Trying to kick someone out of the B1G for criminal actions by a few bureaucrats is like revoking someone's gym membership for cheating on his taxes. They just have absolutely nothing in common.

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  • Spartans ATTACK said...

    I want PSU and Nebraska out.

    +1 both need us; we don't need them.

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