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So UM recruit McGary had to enroll at Prep school to qualify

  • Harry Hood said...

    To be fair, Duke was a finalist for McGary.

    I'd be a bit of a hypocrite if I made fun of the length of this thread because i've posted in it, so I do understand the interest in talking about this recruit.

    That said, McGary will be 20 when he arrives on campus and if he is as good as advertised, Michigan will be tough, but he is likely to jump early.

    More importantly, MSU is well positioned with several high end recruits. Outsiders see last year's debacle + the departures of guys like Allen, Lucious, even Sherman, Anderson, and likely assume that things are rough in East Lansing. However, Dawson and Appling give us two McDonalds All Americans in our starting line up, and if we can get Gary Harris, that will be a huge momentum boost to our already steady recruiting.

    And to be fair, they won't be playing the kid two times next year.

    bmrabbitt

  • Harry Callahan said...

    So we are assuming all the UM recruits pan out unlike the ones of the past? Sounds like solid logic.

    I agree that the guy is taking it a bit far, but I also have to admit that I think Beilein is quite a bit better at developing talent than Ellerbe/Amaker were.

    CoachDistheman

  • I've watched a couple of youtube highlight mix tapes of this kid and to be honest, he just doesn't jump off the screen at me as a dominant force the way a Jadavion Clowney (Different sports, I know) did when I watched his highlight tape. When I think dominant or one and done material, I think of John Wall or Shaquille O'Neal who make it look like a man among boys even in high school. Where kids are falling on their faces trying to guard them or defend against a Shaq dunk.

    11RamGuy

  • Enrico Palazzo said...

    yeah, because McGary once committed to Duke then was rumored to commit to UNC. MSU wasn't a finalist or even in the running for the kid so why is it a 15 page thread for a kid Izzo didn't even recruit and who never came to campus for a visit?

    Why? Really?

    Paging Bobby Sak...

    Duke has a thread on Warren (NC State). Don't think they were in on him.

    This post was edited by NigelUno on 11/4/2011 at 12:18 PM

    NigelUno

  • Harry Callahan said...

    So we are assuming all the UM recruits pan out unlike the ones of the past? Sounds like solid logic.

    No. I clearly stated, "We will see what happens with this crop." There was no leap in logic or proclamations of greatness.

    What I was pointing out is that there are more highly rated guys steadily flowing into the program now than at any point over the past 10+ years. Some of those past Michigan basketball recruits were obviously overrated, just as some these ones will be too. That's easier to overcome when there are more of them around.

    It also helps that Beilein is a decent coach, and has proved to be good at identifying talent early. He wouldn't be getting guys like Darius Morris, Glen Robinson III, and McGary if he hadn't been the first major school recruiting them well before they blew up and became big time recruits. And then there are the guys like Hardaway and Burke (still a maybe on this one, but early reports have been very good) who stay under the radar until their recruiting cycle is essentially over.

    Either way Michigan State is fine. All this means is more competition in the Big Ten. Or perhaps if Michigan has success, it will come at the expense of a school like Purdue, so nothing will really change. Instead of MSU competing for B1G titles with Ohio State, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, and Purdue it will be competing for them with OSU, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, and Michigan.

    nofatchix

  • This coverage is the kind of crap that is annoying. I don't remember any of this hype when our most recent highly rated guys Payne (#3 Center in the country) and Dawson committed.

    The other b.s argument about Izzo only being good because of scuM being down (due to their own hand in cheating) does not hold water. scuM got their share of talent even with the impending tap on the wrist by the NCAA. The only guys that Izzo really beat out scuM for (when Fisher coached) were Cleaves and Bell. scuM still got top rated players for some time after.

    JRich was also another one, but primarily Izzo got "Izzo style" players to fit his system (Neitzel, Morgan, Ager, and the many others). scuM still got guys like Horton, Dion Harris, Manny Harris, DeShawn Sims, etc... Most of the beneficiaries of scuM being down in Detroit were schools like Memphis, Syracuse, Tenn, Fla and others who came in and took talent out of state.

    The only thing that changes is that they are trying to emphasize their program again and have invested money into it. The big difference is that the local yocals in the media will now be plugging college bball since scuM is expected to be good. I just have the feeling that this will bring back the chip on Izzo's shoulder after all that he has accomplished and yet doesn't get the respect from the idiots in the Detroit area.

    A fired up Izzo is going to be kicking butts in the Big Ten again!

    Go Green!

    p.s. it does help that Izzo has another guy who is fiery like himself on the staff now with Fife.

    Spartan89 ●

  • locd32 said...

    Why is everyone making a big deal about this? There are 4 other schools in the B1G that are getting better talent then UM (this includes MSU) and they don't play the live by the 3 die by the 3 ball that B____ plays. There are a lot bigger fish to worry about in the future. UM won't be picked to win the B1G let alone be FF favorites anytime soon. You all are acting crazy...

    So UM is 5th in the Big Ten recruiting and yet 4th nationally

    Its not just Mcgary, all 3 UM commits are higher rated than ANY of the MSU commits in the class of 2012.
    Here http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1288686

    Mcgary #3
    Robinson #34
    Stauskas #79
    lol

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by Braska11 on 11/4/2011 at 1:56 PM

    Braska11

  • Braska11 said...

    So UM is 5th in the Big Ten recruiting and yet 4th nationally

    Its not just Mcgary, all 3 UM commits are higher rated than ANY of the MSU commits in the class of 2012.
    Here http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1288686

    Mcgary #3
    Robinson #34
    Stauskas #79
    lol

    They don't hang banners for recruiting, bro. Congrats, but now it is time to win. Big. No more excuses.

    Anyone. Anyplace. Anytime.

    rookmsu ●

  • Braska11 said...

    So UM is 5th in the Big Ten recruiting and yet 4th nationally

    Its not just Mcgary, all 3 UM commits are higher rated than ANY of the MSU commits in the class of 2012. Here http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1288686

    Mcgary #3 Robinson #34 Stauskas #79 lol

    Harris #10

    UsedToBeBrad

  • Braska11 said...

    So UM is 5th in the Big Ten recruiting and yet 4th nationally

    Its not just Mcgary, all 3 UM commits are higher rated than ANY of the MSU commits in the class of 2012. Here http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1288686

    Mcgary #3 Robinson #34 Stauskas #79 lol

    ban this fucking tool

    SpartanHoops

  • Braska11 said...

    Its not just Mcgary, all 3 UM commits are higher rated than ANY of the MSU commits in the class of 2012.

    Not according to these rankings.

    Harris is #10 also. MSU will have 4 of the Top 100, UM will have 3. McGary will be one and done (if he even shows up). So...who has the real advantage?

    ESPN Basketball Recruiting - Player Rankings - ESPN

    Where do the nation basketball recruits rank? Check out the player rankings on RecruitingNation.com

    espn.go.com

    NigelUno

  • Braska11 said...

    So UM is 5th in the Big Ten recruiting and yet 4th nationally

    Its not just Mcgary, all 3 UM commits are higher rated than ANY of the MSU commits in the class of 2012. Here http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1288686

    Mcgary #3 Robinson #34 Stauskas #79

    Reading comprehension is not your strong point huh? One class does not make a team/program. I'll say it again, there are 4 teams in the B1G that are bringing in more talent then UM. They will not even sniff a B1G Championship let alone go to a FF.

    locd32

  • MSchott said...

    There's nothing wrong with making a big deal for getting McGary. He's a big time prospect and the best they've had for a very long time. If MSU had landed him we'd make a big deal. Not as big as UM makes it but we are already the BB king of this state and by a large margin. They of course see this as their chance to once again become a viable program instead of MSU's (disregarding last year) bitch.

    I don't remember anything close to this when we landed Davis or Brown. The scUMers are getting a little too excited over one player...

    locd32

  • Braska11 said...

    So UM is 5th in the Big Ten recruiting and yet 4th nationally

    Its not just Mcgary, all 3 UM commits are higher rated than ANY of the MSU commits in the class of 2012.
    Here http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1288686

    Mcgary #3
    Robinson #34
    Stauskas #79
    lol

    Your class rankings has clearly resulted in better football teams too. lol

    "Losing Benenoch is a mortal blow from which this program can't recover"-T-Pain

    Rogue Leader

  • Rogue Leader said...

    Your class rankings has clearly resulted in better football teams too.

    Has anyone noticed the offer list for their other two "top 100" recruits? I would have guessed 2-3 stars based on them. I think they got their stars boo$ted a little bit....

    locd32

  • Win a Big Ten Championship or make it to a final four legally and then let's talk, until then STFU!

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    "Come and take them"

    ICEatALAMO

  • Braska11 said...

    Its not just Mcgary, all 3 UM commits are higher rated than ANY of the MSU commits in the class of 2012. Here http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1288686

    And UM has beaten MSU every year in football recruiting since George Perles. How's that working out?

    Don't think -- it can only hurt the ballclub

    LA_Spartan

  • NigelUno said...

    Not according to these rankings.

    Harris is #10 also. MSU will have 4 of the Top 100, UM will have 3. McGary will be one and done (if he even shows up). So...who has the real advantage?

    Must be nice having a future prdicting crystal ball cause last I checked MSU has exactly 3 commits and there is no Harris among them. Did Mcgary tell you he was leaving after one year or did your crystal ball? Im curious.

    Braska11

  • SpartanHoops said...

    ban this fucking tool

    For what? For pointing out rankings of recruits and providing a link? Sensitive bunch around here..sheesh

    Braska11

  • rookmsu said...

    They don't hang banners for recruiting, bro. Congrats, but now it is time to win. Big. No more excuses.

    Agreed..Never said anything other than the fact that UM is getting a great class, not one player.

    Braska11

  • Braska11 said...

    Must be nice having a future prdicting crystal ball cause last I checked MSU has exactly 3 commits and there is no Harris among them. Did Mcgary tell you he was leaving after one year or did your crystal ball? Im curious.

    Good point. The last time the gap closed Hairston and Crawford committed to UM.

    Cackle.

    And...McGary could be one and done OR he might not show up at all and just go straight to the NBA.

    This post was edited by NigelUno on 11/4/2011 at 4:05 PM

    NigelUno

  • locd32 said...

    Has anyone noticed the offer list for their other two "top 100" recruits? I would have guessed 2-3 stars based on them. I think they got their stars boo$ted a little bit....


    I did.

    And the fact that they offered all 3 of our recruits but we offered none of theirs.

    Robinson blew up, but I wouldn't be crowing about Staukasaurus. He's ranked 79, our 3 are 80, 82, and 84.

    And how come there is no data on staukasaurus? Doesn't give the "average, developing, good, outstanding" reports on his shooting, handling, strength, nothing.

    Le Flama Blanca ●

  • Braska11 said...

    So UM is 5th in the Big Ten recruiting and yet 4th nationally

    Its not just Mcgary, all 3 UM commits are higher rated than ANY of the MSU commits in the class of 2012. Here http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1288686

    Mcgary #3 Robinson #34 Stauskas #79 lol

    You can keep this McGary kid.......

    Even if he got all A's his senior year, he still wouldn't have been eligible? wow.......how do you get grades that bad?

    "No one cares what you know, until they know how much you care." Mark Dantonio

    GTASpartan87

  • Le Flama Blanca said...

    I did.

    And the fact that they offered all 3 of our recruits but we offered none of theirs.

    Robinson blew up, but I wouldn't be crowing about Staukasaurus. He's ranked 79, our 3 are 80, 82, and 84.

    And how come there is no data on staukasaurus? Doesn't give the "average, developing, good, outstanding" reports on his shooting, handling, strength, nothing.

    Stauskas may end up being the best player in the class as at 6'6 he has point guard level handles and is possibly the best shooter in the country.
    Here is some video of Stauskas going against Baylor University for the Canadian national team.
    http://www.umhoops.com/2011/08/13/video-nik-stauskas-vs-baylor-university/

    Braska11

  • Just for fun here is Stauskas making 102 3 pointers in 5 minutes..Not anything like shooting in a game with defense but it certainly says something. BTW he shot 48% from deep last season.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAJl7Tgk97I

    Braska11

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