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I'd definitely agree with that.

North Philly is probably the shittiest area I've ever seen.

Flint is pretty crappy. I wouldn't say it's really dangerous unless you're looking in a specific area for trouble...in which case it's extremely dangerous. Stay away from the little box between 75/475/69 and you'll be ok.

If you're looking for a non-chain restaurant idea roughly in the Flint area (Burton, so you'll have to drive 5-10 minutes from downtown), this place has disturbingly addictive chips. It's family-owned, and the ambiance is generally quiet/dark. I've been there a handful of times, the outside is pretty rough looking, but it's nice on the inside. Prices are very reasonable.

If you're scared of downtown Flint at 10:30pm, you're either a huge pussy or racist. My money's on both.

I swear it seems like every time this dude posts something or when someone mentions how shitty an urban area is, someone's a racist. Shut the fuck up already man.

Those are the two options. There is no rational reason to be afraid of downtown Flint.

It is interesting when someone has an opinion that is different from your own you spout racism and "scared". Its like calling the guy who banged your ex girlfriend a rapist.

Not one thing was written about being scared or a racist. If you spend time in downtown Flint or at Hurley you would see there are people of all walks of life. If you think Flint is a "nice place to live and spend time" then lets agree to disagree. In my opinion Flint being not a nixw place to be is as certain as the sky is blue. I can state the murder rates, violent crimes, poverty, unemployment rate, or how about all the goddamn boards on every other building and house.

How big is downtown Flint where people go to the bar or dinner? Two blocks? I choose not to go there when it is my choice. Thats it.

comparing Flint to any part of NYC is a waste of time. Flint has been so fucking broke and irrelevant for so fucking long that not even the criminals can be bothered to leave their homes.

I have nothing against the city, btw, to the extent that it can even be considered a city any longer. but there is not going to be a "turnaround" in Flint, ever. all of the industry left decades ago, and places like Ann Arbor and Grand Rapids have long since positioned themselves for pharma and services industries like finance, etc.

I'm not going to say that Flint is a GREAT place to live, but there are areas around Flint where decent, hardworking people, can make a nice life and raise a family. But there are still a lot of pussies in this thread. There's no area that's worse than some areas of Detroit or any other big city. The areas that you shouldn't go to don't have any reason for you to go there anyway, so who the F cares?

This is my point. Hurley is walking distance to downtown." Its in a horrible area of the city." You say it like they are miles apart. I would say half a mile at the most.

Half mile at most? No way. A quick google map search puts it at over a mile. Also there's the fact that Hurley is north of the river and is basically in carriage town (which no one in their right mind would walk through unless it's Crim related). I don't know who would get more offended by saying there isn't much difference between the two neighborhoods. On one hand, you have a bunch of hipsters in carriage town. On the other hand, you have a bunch of students/office workers/socialites that hang out in downtown. Why would you walk from Hurley to downtown when most people know of free spots downtown that they use?

1.3 Miles. And I would not walk that I was just making a point that an awful area of town is very close to luxurious downtown Flint. Does Flint even have a population of 100,000? How many people do you need to be considered a city?