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Steve Nash traded to Lakers

  • Sure most people won't be interested but for the few NBA fans out there, how do you think this affects the Lakers' title chances?

    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
    Source confirms: The Suns are sending Steve Nash to the Lakers for draft picks.

    This post has been edited 2 times, most recently by MooUguru on 7/4/2012 at 7:54 PM

    Sources -- Steve Nash headed to Los Angeles Lakers in sign-and-trade deal - ESPN Los Angeles

    Two-time NBA MVP Steve Nash has successfully negotiated a sign-and-trade deal from the Phoenix Suns to the Los Angeles Lakers that will team him up with Kobe Bryant, according to sources with knowledge of the deal.

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    MooUguru

  • This definitely improves their biggest weakness. Obviously Nash isn't a great defender but at least he can get a few back on the likes of Westbrook and Parker.

    sprtnbrn

  • This would make a Lakers title with Nash more palatable.

    Big John Studd

  • Don't have much in the front court, especially with them trying to move Pau Gasoft and Bynum. Nash is a matador on defense.

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  • They still need to do something about Gasoft and Daydream-Bynum. Trade them both for Howard and you've got something.

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  • Raytooth Morgan said...

    Don't have much in the front court, especially with them trying to move Pau Gasoft and Bynum. Nash is a matador on defense.

    Yeah, but despite his age he can still pass (11 apg) and shoot (50/40/90 splits).

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  • I think this is only the first move. Pau will probably be moved for Josh Smith, a package Houston including Scola and Martin, or many other scenarios. That Ron Artest contract is brutal right now. It'd be nice to sign a guy like Beasley, Lewis, etc but having Artest really kills any chance of a huge upgrade at SF.

    Not sure why they're hanging on to Mike Brown. Now that they have their first real PG since Magic, they need somebody who knows how to put together a real offense, not that typical NBA isolation offense. Should fire him and hire Van Gundy after they know Dwight won't come to LA for sure.

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  • This is a great move for LA. For the first time in a LONG time, they've got an elite point guard. It'll probably help Kobe stay healthier, and the offense will run more smoothly as well. Plus his outside shooting abilities are really going to open things up down low.

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  • What about that PG from scUM that left early a year ago ? I thought he was the answer to their point guard needs

    Blaykezor

  • Wow. Can't believe they traded him to LA. It was a nice lil' rivalry for a few years when Stoudemire, Marion, etc were all there. I really hope Nash gets a ring before he retires. Class act.

    Da Sphink

  • Da Sphink said...

    Wow. Can't believe they traded him to LA. It was a nice lil' rivalry for a few years when Stoudemire, Marion, etc were all there. I really hope Nash gets a ring before he retires. Class act.

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  • RBW Spartan said...

    Mike Brown's the class act; Nash is a gym rat.

    roflmao well played.

    MooUguru

  • Looks like any offensive woes will be solved, but this may be a downgrade on perimeter defense.The Lakers have struggled with the high pick and roll and/or guarding against elite point guards for while now, and now it will be an exclamation point with Nash. Of course, if their offense becomes the absolute best in the NBA, why would it matter?

    RPGEnix0

  • RPGEnix0 said...

    Looks like any offensive woes will be solved, but this may be a downgrade on perimeter defense.The Lakers have struggled with the high pick and roll and/or guarding against elite point guards for while now, and now it will be an exclamation point with Nash. Of course, if their offense becomes the absolute best in the NBA, why would it matter?

    If they trade Pau for Josh Smith or land Howard, that interior defense wont be allowing too much penetration. With Nash they'll be able to limit the turn overs by a wide margin compared to what they've been giving up in the last couple of years.

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  • RPGEnix0 said...

    Looks like any offensive woes will be solved, but this may be a downgrade on perimeter defense.The Lakers have struggled with the high pick and roll and/or guarding against elite point guards for while now, and now it will be an exclamation point with Nash. Of course, if their offense becomes the absolute best in the NBA, why would it matter?

    Like Sessions and Fisher were stellar defenders, they weren't. Lakers lost 2 games to OKC because of turnovers in the fourth and at the end of the game. Also Kobe taking bad contested shots. Kobe having the ball in his hands at the end of games in a playoff series vs. OKC was a killer. Nash won't be turning the ball over like that. This move makes them better against OKC, but not the Spurs. The Lakers are not young or athletic enough on the perimeter to stop Spurs 3 point shooters. OKC was young and athletic and they were able to contain those 3 point shooters.

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  • Still not as good as OKC

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  • Kobe and Nash late in their careers...too little too late?

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  • MooUguru said...

    Sure most people won't be interested but for the few NBA fans out there, how do you think this affects the Lakers' title chances?

    Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA Source confirms: The Suns are sending Steve Nash to the Lakers for draft picks.

    Uninterested, though I would like to know when he is going to record his next album as Tom Petty.

    LoneWolfSparty

  • Cosmo_Kramer said...

    Kobe and Nash late in their careers...too little too late?

    I think they both help each other, take major pressure off one another. Nash will rarely have to shoot, just drive-and-dish. Pao, Bynum, World Peace and Kobe will be getting the best looks, consistently, off their careers.

    mentalstate

  • GoHard24 said...

    If they trade Pau for Josh Smith or land Howard, that interior defense wont be allowing too much penetration. With Nash they'll be able to limit the turn overs by a wide margin compared to what they've been giving up in the last couple of years.

    Something like this seems right to me -- I think the Nash move, by itself, probably isn't all they need to make them true contenders in the West.

    Also, Gasol/Bynum are pretty much low-post players, not really pick and roll guys. Nash is a pick and roll PG. So if they can get a big man who does better in pick and rolls, that would help. Gasol/Bynum are both decent assets that they could get good value back in a trade with.

    With a player like Kobe, there's always the question of whether they'll be willing to let the PG really run the offense.

    In general, I think that what the Lakers are doing here is really smart. They're mortgaging the future a bit, but they have maybe 2 years of the end of Kobe's prime left. They weren't good enough to win the west, let alone be a title contender, in the last two years. Do you waste the end of Kobe's prime, or do you go all in to try to win a title in the next 2-3 years?

    voodoochile

  • voodoochile said...

    Something like this seems right to me -- I think the Nash move, by itself, probably isn't all they need to make them true contenders in the West.

    Also, Gasol/Bynum are pretty much low-post players, not really pick and roll guys. Nash is a pick and roll PG. So if they can get a big man who does better in pick and rolls, that would help. Gasol/Bynum are both decent assets that they could get good value back in a trade with.

    With a player like Kobe, there's always the question of whether they'll be willing to let the PG really run the offense.

    In general, I think that what the Lakers are doing here is really smart. They're mortgaging the future a bit, but they have maybe 2 years of the end of Kobe's prime left. They weren't good enough to win the west, let alone be a title contender, in the last two years. Do you waste the end of Kobe's prime, or do you go all in to try to win a title in the next 2-3 years?

    Nash is a pick and roll guy. He has not had a big to do that with since Stoudamire . Lopez is not a pick and roll threat. Between Gasol and Bynum, Gasol would be the better big to put Nash in a pick and roll with. Gasol can score away from the basket or in the paint. At this point I would say that Bynum is more expendable if they are trying to get Dwight than Gasol is. Those Laker role players are about to get the best looks of their lives with Nash distributing the ball.

    This post was edited by Spartyshannon on 7/5/2012 at 11:27 AM

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  • I think the Lakers will consider moving Bynum for Howard. The Magic really has terrible offers and do now want to lose him for nothing in return if they fail to do a trade. If the Lakers refuse to send Bynum, Magic could be SOL.

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  • tJYD said...

    I think the Lakers will consider moving Bynum for Howard. The Magic really has terrible offers and do now want to lose him for nothing in return if they fail to do a trade. If the Lakers refuse to send Bynum, Magic could be SOL.

    I said this on Tuesday (before the Nash to LA rumors were even going strong) -- if I'm LA, I absolutely flip Bynum to the Magic for Howard. For LA, worst-case scenario is that Howard walks after one year, but in that one year you have a pretty decent potential title contender, at least on paper (who knows how it turns out in real life). Also, chances are that once Howard is in LA and playing with Kobe and Nash, I think he probably resigns there instead of going to the mess in Brooklyn.

    (One further note: Bynum is an unrestricted free agent at the end of 2012-2013, which I didn't realize until I looked it up just now. This makes it perhaps easier for LA to justify flipping him, but probably makes him somewhat less valuable to Orlando, because he could walk at the end of the season, just like Howard, and they're still left with nothing. In other words, I'd suspect Orlando would want a commitment from Bynum to extend his contract if they take him in trade.)

    voodoochile

  • voodoochile said...

    I said this on Tuesday (before the Nash to LA rumors were even going strong) -- if I'm LA, I absolutely flip Bynum to the Magic for Howard. For LA, worst-case scenario is that Howard walks after one year, but in that one year you have a pretty decent potential title contender, at least on paper (who knows how it turns out in real life). Also, chances are that once Howard is in LA and playing with Kobe and Nash, I think he probably resigns there instead of going to the mess in Brooklyn.

    (One further note: Bynum is an unrestricted free agent at the end of 2012-2013, which I didn't realize until I looked it up just now. This makes it perhaps easier for LA to justify flipping him, but probably makes him somewhat less valuable to Orlando, because he could walk at the end of the season, just like Howard, and they're still left with nothing. In other words, I'd suspect Orlando would want a commitment from Bynum to extend his contract if they take him in trade.)

    Considering those facts, plus the Lakers do not have any valuable pics to trade, a third and maybe fourth team might have to get involved.

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