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InTenSity said...
He can have an opinion, he'll probably just lose his job for it. The Marlins aren't exactly the beloved baseball franchise around here and they have enough of a PR problem with attendence and the cost of the stadium to the taxpayer. Now, with Cubans being about 70% of the population in Miami-Dade, where teh Miami Marlins play, they have just been insulted. Any other manager could have said this and gotten away with it, but not one in Miami. A team that is seen as cheap, locally, just took a potshot at 80% of its core audience. This is why I said I think it is the same thing as a coach coming to MSU and saying they respect and love Schembechlar or Bo Ryan. Anywhere else in the country it might be ok to say that, just probably not in E. Lansing.
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InTenSity said...
He can have an opinion, he'll probably just lose his job for it. The Marlins aren't exactly the beloved baseball franchise around here and they have enough of a PR problem with attendence and the cost of the stadium to the taxpayer. Now, with Cubans being about 70% of the population in Miami-Dade, where teh Miami Marlins play, they have just been insulted. Any other manager could have said this and gotten away with it, but not one in Miami. A team that is seen as cheap, locally, just took a potshot at 80% of its core audience. This is why I said I think it is the same thing as a coach coming to MSU and saying they respect and love Schembechlar or Bo Ryan. Anywhere else in the country it might be ok to say that, just probably not in E. Lansing.
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Heat Miser said...
You're one of the ones who doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about.
From the actual article. Is respect spelled l-o-v-e in your world?
"I love Fidel Castro," Blurts Ozzie Guillen, the new manager of the Miami Marlins, in his Jupiter, Fla., spring-training office before an early-March team workout.
Ozzie Guillen in hot water over Fidel Castro talk | Big League Stew - Yahoo! Sports
From the blog Ozzie Guillen in hot water over Fidel Castro talk: Big League Stew
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You keep using the word "love" an conflating it with "respect."
This is EXACTLY why I think this is overblown and ridiculous -- stupid people who don't understand the difference between "love" and "respect" are being stupid.
FOR EXAMPLE: I don't "love" Michigan basketball but I can "respect" the fact they earned a share of the regular season Big Ten Championship.
See how that works?
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numberonealcove said...
When exactly did we decide to allow alleged victims to be judge and jury over their own cases?
I'm quite aware of the history, thank you very much. But the insane politics of Miami should indicate to any reasonable person that the Castro thing is not an instance where the accuser's voice helps to clarify matters.
The "politics" of Miami are irrelevant. There is no "judge and jury". People are threatening to withhold their $$$ if he isn't fired, not lynch him in Little Havana. That is within their rights.
I'd love to see you call my father-in-law an "alleged" victim to his face.
Guinness makes you drop mud.
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-PPTPW- said...
The article I read said he "respects" Fidel Castro.
"I respect Fidel Castro," Guillen said in the article. "You know why? A lot of people have wanted to kill Fidel Castro for the last 60 years, but that [expletive] is still here."
Obviously, my whole set of arguments would have no logical merit if the facts I based them on were inaccurate.
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InTenSity said...
I don't understand all your hate. I have no dog in this fight, just sayin it might not be wise to insult your core audience and the people you want buying your tickets. You need to know your market a bit better. Sheesh, and whether or not it gets miscontrued or not no longer matters once it gets into public opinion. I'll try to watch the news tonight and let you know how the people of Miami feel, politics or not.
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Heat Miser said...
The "politics" of Miami are irrelevant. There is no "judge and jury". People are threatening to withhold their $$$ if he isn't fired, not lynch him in Little Havana. That is within their rights.
I'd love to see you call my father-in-law an "alleged" victim to his face.
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numberonealcove said...
When exactly did we decide to allow alleged victims to be judge and jury over their own cases?
I'm quite aware of the history, thank you very much. But the insane politics of Miami should indicate to any reasonable person that the Castro thing is not an instance where the accuser's voice helps to clarify matters.
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-PPTPW- said...
He said he 'respected' Castro because people have been trying to kill him for decades and he's still around.
Butthurt Cuban-Americans interpret 'respect' as 'love' and claim he said, "I love Castro."
Obviously, butthurt Cuban-Americans are butthurt. They have zero understanding of the difference between 'respect' and 'love.'
What's really funny about many of those Cuban-Americans (many of whom are SECOND generation Cuban-Americans) is that if Fidel wasn't there, they'd totally go back to Cuba. I can understand if you're first generation and want to go back, but how can one rationalize having this attitude if you're born in America?
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BigDaddySpartan said...
Not trying to flame, but I don't understand the point you're trying to make here and in your previous post. Are you saying that a majority of Cuban-Americans living in Miami don't really hate Castro, but play along with the politics in order to blend in with their neighbors? Or are you saying that Castro is a good guy and Cubans who hate him are just political sheep?
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