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This is why I never joined a frat

  • R.P. McMurphy said...

    sarcasm doesn't always come through well. congrats on your affiliation with Theta Chi. that's a pretty big deal.

    Your sarcasm aside, it was a big deal to me; one of the few positive decisions I made as an undergrad. My personal experience notwithstanding, I didn't show up in this thread to get pulled into a pissing match with anyone. It was right for me, and I get how others have no interest. That's cool. Live and let live.

    Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

    tGreenWay

  • tGreenWay said...

    Your sarcasm aside, it was a big deal to me; one of the few positive decisions I made as an undergrad. My personal experience notwithstanding, I didn't show up in this thread to get pulled into a pissing match with anyone. It was right for me, and I get how others have no interest. That's cool. Live and let live.

    The Lodge!! thumbsup

    tVargMan Prime

  • Frat parties did always have tasty biscuits I will give them that thumbsup

    Nothing against them just didn't need to join one, I worked at a bar instead. Worked just as well and I got paid.

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    Spartzilla

  • VargMan said...

    The Lodge!! thumbsup

    I love the Lodge!

    Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx

    tGreenWay

  • All Ages Shows said...

    Frat Story:

    Welcome week of our freshman year, a buddy of mine and I were a bit lost as to how to college nightlife it up so we decided to go to a frat party. DKE was the first one we came across and as we were about to walk through the front gate when some big dude steps in our way and just says "No dudes." lol

    The same buddy walked by there alone later that year and one of them asked him if he had a lighter. My friend said "no, sorry" and the guy's response was "Fuck you! I'll steal your girlfriend!"

    That ones kinda funny, though.

    The funny part of that story is no hot girls go to DKE, EVER. They treat their house like shit and are a bunch of creeps (according sorority girls)

    We're all fucked. And we're fucked in the way you like to get fucked, not fucked in the way normal people like to get fucked

    soccerskillz6

  • VargMan said...

    The non-greeks gave themselves that term because they wanted to be a part of the greek system so bad that they chose to give themselves greek letters of Gamma Delta Iota.

    roflmao

    That's such an insecure crowd. They look upon the greeks as superior and the better class that they automatically resort to hating and name calling.

    It's hilarious...lolthumbsup

    Not only that, half the Greeks have no more coin than anyone else. If it's superior living its because living in a House for a year or two can be cheaper and more structured than a shitty off-campus student ghetto complex 2BR or a rental house with dudes you don't know. One flunks out or bails and 3 could be covering the costs for 4.

    FIJI239 81

  • living with over 60 guys in a house would suck ass. I just dont see the upside to that AT ALL but different strokes I guess. I enjoyed having an apartment all to my self and going to house parties or the bars (instead of attending frat parties).

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    Viggo_Martyr

  • tGreenWay said...

    Your sarcasm aside, it was a big deal to me; one of the few positive decisions I made as an undergrad. My personal experience notwithstanding, I didn't show up in this thread to get pulled into a pissing match with anyone. It was right for me, and I get how others have no interest. That's cool. Live and let live.

    That was a very interesting story.

    I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.

    RP McMurphy

  • Its interesting to hear people talk about how joining a Frat helped them meet more people. While I believe at first this could be true; however, I feel in the long run it is not necessarily true. Frats tend to have guys together that are like one another (like any group of friends). This is because due to voting most guys will pick people they feel comfortable with leading to a group of guys together that have similar background (there are always a few outliers). Now this said group of guys throws parties and attends parties, but generally (if Frats are anything like the ones at Miami) they only associate with a one or two of the sororities.These sororities being whatever ones they feel are like them. Not to mention generally guys within the Frat do no associate with other people outside the frat that much (i.e. going to other parties, hanging out guys from other frats, etc). If they do, they tend to people to are disassociating themselves from the frat during their upperclassmen years. To me this seems if anything you are limiting yourself from meeting people from different backgrounds. Now I am not saying that not joining a frat helps change this. People tend to associate themselves with like people, I am just fighting the stance that Frats help you meet tons of new people more than people who do not join one. As tGreenway said for some people joining a Frat is great and helps a lot, but others is doesn't. Personally, I didn't see the benefit.

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    Spartzilla

  • tLonelyStoner said...

    i thought you were pre-med?

    "What's the difference?"roflmao

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    "We done handcuffed lightning and threw thunder in jail. Go green!"- Mark Dantonio, Jan. 2, 2012

    TDGreen

  • Had a blast at my Frat back in the day. All of the chicks and my current wife were met through the house. Some of the exclusive shit we did, meet greet & fuck sororities, date nights where you pick the girl, Halloween (good god) It was like a non-stop porno party from August till December. How I got any schoolwork done I have no clue

    Problem was we partied so much we lost the charter at State

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    High Speed

  • Viggo_Martyr said...

    living with over 60 guys in a house would suck ass. I just dont see the upside to that AT ALL but different strokes I guess. I enjoyed having an apartment all to my self and going to house parties or the bars (instead of attending frat parties).

    why am I not surprised that you lived alone in college

    We've got depth. We've got numbers.

    ninowesco

  • High Speed said...

    Had a blast at my Frat back in the day. All of the chicks and my current wife were met through the house. Some of the exclusive shit we did, meet greet & fuck sororities, date nights where you pick the girl, Halloween (good god) It was like a non-stop porno party from August till December. How I got any schoolwork done I have no clue

    Problem was we partied so much we lost the charter at State

    lol

    I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.

    RP McMurphy

  • Spartzilla said...

    Its interesting to hear people talk about how joining a Frat helped them meet more people. While I believe at first this could be true; however, I feel in the long run it is not necessarily true. Frats tend to have guys together that are like one another (like any group of friends). This is because due to voting most guys will pick people they feel comfortable with leading to a group of guys together that have similar background (there are always a few outliers). Now this said group of guys throws parties and attends parties, but generally (if Frats are anything like the ones at Miami) they only associate with a one or two of the sororities.These sororities being whatever ones they feel are like them. Not to mention generally guys within the Frat do no associate with other people outside the frat that much (i.e. going to other parties, hanging out guys from other frats, etc). If they do, they tend to people to are disassociating themselves from the frat during their upperclassmen years. To me this seems if anything you are limiting yourself from meeting people from different backgrounds. Now I am not saying that not joining a frat helps change this. People tend to associate themselves with like people, I am just fighting the stance that Frats help you meet tons of new people more than people who do not join one. As tGreenway said for some people joining a Frat is great and helps a lot, but others is doesn't. Personally, I didn't see the benefit.

    My experience was that it could go either way. I knew a lot of people in the dorms that chose a fraternity/sorority based a lot on the status or reputation the house had. IMO, those houses had a lot less diversity, like what you describe.

    I initially had no interest in the Greek system. I got into it through some friends in the dorm that joined before me. I started going with them to the bigger event type things they put together, like bands or Super Bowl parties. So, my initial interest wasn't really about meeting more people. This was a pretty informal group, with a lot of different types of people. Some were the typical frat guys, a lot you would never guess were part of the Greek system. I liked that and joined.

    So, while it it wasn't my reason for joining, I feel I met a more diverse group than I would have otherwise. It really taught me a lot about dealing with people with different backgrounds, interests, political views and all that.

    Brass Spittoon

  • VargMan said...

    I love them, too. I love sitting back and just watching the non-greeks get so bent out of shape over fraternities and sororities. When i was in a fraternity, we never sat around and talked about the non-greeks. They occupied zero of our attention...yet it was always interesting to see how some people let the greek system occupy their emotions. It was as if we were the cause of their failures, trials and tribulations. People I never even met would be all pissed off because I was in a fraternity.

    I love reading these types of threads...

    Normally, I like your posts. On this, you sound like a twit here or a narrow minded narcissistic dweeb. I was in a frat too and I don't remember occupying peoples emotions. People asked if I liked it or if I felt that I really got anything out of it. That was about it. People may have been pissed at you when they met you if you came across like a jack ass, not because you were in a fraternity.

    ArmstrongStyle

  • Brass Spittoon-- interesting take. I guess I really never knew a frat like that during my college times. Miami being the Triad (Three Fraternities founded on its campus) tends to have more, for lack of better words right now, frattier. Meaning they tend to follow those stereotypes that everyone places on Fraternities. Not to say there weren't some small frats that weren't as well known that were less pretentious because there definitely were; however, usually this meant they were not having the social interaction that the other frats were. I found it much easier for myself to be friends with multiple Greek associated people and still benefit from the social experience i.e. date parties for sororities etc. With the added benefit that I was expected to only hang out with brothers from the frat. However, as i have said, some people benefit from joining a frat due to the brotherly bond that can form. I totally agree with that. Having gone to a all guys high school, I know what that experience can be like.

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  • Spartzilla said...

    Brass Spittoon-- interesting take. I guess I really never knew a frat like that during my college times. Miami being the Triad (Three Fraternities founded on its campus) tends to have more, for lack of better words right now, frattier. Meaning they tend to follow those stereotypes that everyone places on Fraternities. Not to say there weren't some small frats that weren't as well known that were less pretentious because there definitely were; however, usually this meant they were not having the social interaction that the other frats were. I found it much easier for myself to be friends with multiple Greek associated people and still benefit from the social experience i.e. date parties for sororities etc. With the added benefit that I was expected to only hang out with brothers from the frat. However, as i have said, some people benefit from joining a frat due to the brotherly bond that can form. I totally agree with that. Having gone to a all guys high school, I know what that experience can be like.

    I think being at a larger school allows for more diversity that way. I have heard about that element at Miami so I knew where you were coming from.

    The other thing to consider was the culture at IU when I was there. In the early 80's, it was pretty much a mad-house and I have heard that it has since returned to that at various times. I was there during a period where they were trying to crack down hard on the party culture. Undercover cops were a big thing then. They would get into parties and bring down the whole thing for underage drinkers, serving to minors and all that. I don't think there were actually that many under-covers but it made everyone so paranoid that the big blowout parties were pretty rare outside of the Greek system.

    So the party scene really made the Greek system more attractive at IU than it might some other places. Had I gone somewhere else for undergrad I probably wouldn't have even looked into. As I said, though, I was glad it worked out how it did for me. As it relates to MSU, I think the size of the school lends itself to diversity in the Greek system for those that are looking for it.

    This post was edited by Brass Spittoon on 12/16/2011 at 10:29 AM

    Brass Spittoon

  • MSUx2 said...

    calling a fraternity a frat is like calling your country a cunt.

    it isn't in the least bit. the first syllable in fraternity is pronounced "fruh." when truncated to "frat" it rhymes with fat. the pronunciation changes. so calling a fraternity a frat is actually like calling your country a count. and then only question is, chocula or *the* count?

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  • this is why i chose to rush GDI

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  • ninowesco said...

    why am I not surprised that you lived alone in college

    uhohYeah having a nice apartment all to my self really sucked (I had friends over all the time but I choose not to get a roommate since I valued my privacy and could afford to live alone)

    And lmao at you trying to insult me. From what I've heard, you strongly resemble George Costanzalol

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    Viggo_Martyr

  • Always love these threads when they pop up every 6 months or so. Here's my piece:

    I had a positive experience in a house @ MSU. But the better benefits I've had have been after college: I owe my current job to a brother who was able to get me a law clerk interview in the firm as a first year law student; 20 yrs later, I'm still good friends and regularly see the two guys I lived with for my year in the house; and two of my better friends I've met post college turned out to be from the same fraternity at other schools. Would we have been friends otherwise? Probably - but having something in common when meeting them helped. It's not for everyone (my wife wasn't in a soriority @ MSU), but I enjoyed it.

    16ozIPA

  • 16ozIPA said...

    Always love these threads when they pop up every 6 months or so. Here's my piece:

    I had a positive experience in a house @ MSU. But the better benefits I've had have been after college: I owe my current job to a brother who was able to get me a law clerk interview in the firm as a first year law student; 20 yrs later, I'm still good friends and regularly see the two guys I lived with for my year in the house; and two of my better friends I've met post college turned out to be from the same fraternity at other schools. Would we have been friends otherwise? Probably - but having something in common when meeting them helped. It's not for everyone (my wife wasn't in a soriority @ MSU), but I enjoyed it.

    This is disingenuous. It is perfectly possible that you can make friends with someone and have the exact same thing happen. Your ability to network helped you get that position.

    Beardy

  • Beardy said...

    This is disingenuous. It is perfectly possible that you can make friends with someone and have the exact same thing happen. Your ability to network helped you get that position.

    Sure, these things could have happened w/out the frat. But joining the house shrunk the university down and gave me an additional networking group for the rest of my life.

    16ozIPA

  • Well put. Probably best decision I made while at State. Our house is doing very well, have many friends I still keep in touch with from those days :)

    ATL SPARTAN

  • Did everyone see that FAMU band kid that got beat up by his band members on a bus and died? If not there is a thread. No doubt it was a frat that murdered that young man right OP? This is why I didn't join the band.......

    Tommy K