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Tips for an aggressive dog?

  • john winger said...

    2) Get familiar with the Leerburg way, ASAP. Dogs don't grow out bad behavior, you must train them on a DAILY basis who is in charge, every single day for the rest of the dogs life is a training day.

    http://leerburg.com/aggresiv.htm?set=1

    The first thing that needs to happen when trying to get control of a dominant dog is to have his pack order changed. He needs to be moved to the bottom of the list in terms of pack order. This is done by controlling every aspect of the dog's life. Dominant dogs do not sleep on the bed or in the bedroom. The best place to sleep goes to the pack leader. Dominant dogs never eat from the table. In fact, they are crated during meal time and are always fed "after dinner," (lower pack members always eat last).

    Another important point in establishing pack order is to remember the dog only plays with the toys the handler provides and the handler always takes possession of these toys at the end of the play session. The toys are ALWAYS put away and the dog is not allowed to play with them when the handler is not there. To leave them out only further stimulates a possessiveness in the dog for that toy. If the dog gets overly possessive towards a particular toy, then that toy is put away and never played with again.

    Jesus... is this the Leerburg way or the Mike Vick way?

    Lunchables

  • Whatever works, right?!

    And He Got it

  • I'd tell the dog to attack at night and remember to kill the head and the body will die.

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    Plate of Shrimp

  • john winger said...

    2 tips.

    1) start the crate training today.

    2) Get familiar with the Leerburg way, ASAP. Dogs don't grow out bad behavior, you must train them on a DAILY basis who is in charge, every single day for the rest of the dogs life is a training day.

    http://leerburg.com/aggresiv.htm?set=1

    The first thing that needs to happen when trying to get control of a dominant dog is to have his pack order changed. He needs to be moved to the bottom of the list in terms of pack order. This is done by controlling every aspect of the dog's life. Dominant dogs do not sleep on the bed or in the bedroom. The best place to sleep goes to the pack leader. Dominant dogs never eat from the table. In fact, they are crated during meal time and are always fed "after dinner," (lower pack members always eat last).

    Another important point in establishing pack order is to remember the dog only plays with the toys the handler provides and the handler always takes possession of these toys at the end of the play session. The toys are ALWAYS put away and the dog is not allowed to play with them when the handler is not there. To leave them out only further stimulates a possessiveness in the dog for that toy. If the dog gets overly possessive towards a particular toy, then that toy is put away and never played with again.

    A way to get him acquainted with other dogs once he's trained not to be so aggressive is to take him a couple times a week to a dog daycare. I work at one in Livonia and the socialization that the dogs get is unparalleled, it's a giant dog park and he can play all he wants. If he can calm down a little, it might be a nice way to familiarize himself with the idea of other dogs...

    http://www.4-leggedfriendsdaycare.com/

    ass dan

  • john winger said...

    this is probably one of the most controversial topics at leerburg.

    I didn't read the link, what's the deal?

    ass dan

  • His socialization period is essentially over, he's going to behave in certain ways in certain situations based on his past experiences. Unfortunately it takes a lot of time and effort, constant training to keep behavior problems under control. You should see a behaviorist for a consult, especially if your dog is showing aggressiveness toward people. I went to a behavior academy and was surprised at the amount of work our instructor, a well respected behaviorist/trainer had to put in to help control her own dog's issues. Even the best trainers in the world can't "cure" a dog's behavior problems 100% of the time, it's a ton of work just to get to the point where you're comfortable.

    ramblingloser

  • My tip for an agressive dog: Have it euthanized before someone you love ends up with a face full of stitches.

    OldOneEye

  • OldOneEye said...

    My tip for an agressive dog: Have it euthanized before someone you love ends up with a face full of stitches.

    This Old One Eye sounds like he speaks from experience.

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  • OldOneEye said...

    My tip for an agressive dog: Have it euthanized before someone you love ends up with a face full of stitches.

    Stop.

    ass dan

  • john winger said...

    this is one of the most controversial topics at leerburg.

    i dont agree completely with Ed, but i do believe there is something serious to consider when he talks about how the "socialization" of dogs can be a really bad idea for both the dog and the owner.

    =================================================== I want to go on record as saying that the concept of ”Dog Parks” was well intended but a bad idea, especially when dogs are allowed to run off-leash. The main problems all stem from people who don't understand and have not established pack structure with their dogs. This means their dogs are out of control.

    The average dog owner does not take the time to understand much less install pack structure. They don't know how strong the pack instincts are in their family pets. These drives can and often do click into high gear when a dog is taken into a park with strange dogs.

    When a new dog comes into a park that other dogs visit every day the new visitor is often seen an an intruder into “the personal territory" of the regular visitor. More often than not they are not seen as new found friend. This often leads to either to territorial aggression, dominance aggression or fear aggression. ======================================================================

    I don't necessarily agree with this stance. As a day care worker, I intervened in any potential issues that would arise and was trained to read dogs in a lot of social situations. The whole idea that dogs establish a territory within a dog park isn't anything that I've encountered in my time at the company. I consider myself to be pretty observant, when a new dog is let into the daycare area, the dogs will chase him or her around for a few minutes, sniff and try to engage the new guy in play, and move on with their lives. There are some dogs who are there everyday, while others come once in a long while, with new dogs being introduced all the time. The dynamic between old dogs and new dogs is no different; seniority in the pen has little significance whether the dog is aggressive or not.

    the only reason my experience may be different than what this guy expected would be the sheer number of dogs (sometimes there are over 100 dogs on the big dog side), but I doubt that is the case.

    ass dan

  • Stay within yourself.

    Also, the females like to be romanced a bit. You can't expect to go right in and do your business.

    Achtung Baby

  • 1. Never beat the dog, it makes them aggressive. I have a Beagle which many people think the best way to train a beagle is to beat them because they are stubborn dogs.
    2. As for the leash at the park, get an E Collar. I never take my dog hunting or anywhere outside my yard without it on. At this point I never even have to give him the light shock anymore, I can give a warning sound before I zap him, now if I have to I just use the sound and he stops whatever bad behavior he is doing.
    3. Show him a lot of love, my dog is protective of me and my 3 and 1 year olds and he is only 3. He never lunges at other dogs but I had him around other dogs since I got him and my dad has his litter mate, so he is social with other dogs. But if a dog comes running at me and/or my kids he steps in front and gets ready to protect if needed.
    4. Give him time, it takes awhile for a dog to develop his real personality, the more you get him around other dogs and people the better he will become at it. My dog allows my kids to pull his ears, tail and eff with all around and the worst he has ever done, is give a light "bird dog" bite, did not leave any marks on my son, my son realized not to mess with him in that way after that.
    5. I believe there is no such things as bad dogs, just bad owners. While there are exceptions to the rule find this to be the case with every dog I have been around.

    Overall I find the E Collar as a great training tool. It allows you to correct the behavior without beating them and also it doesn't associate the little bit of pain with you. And for the lunging, a choke collar helps with that. A lot of people do not like them I know, however all my dogs always have choke collars. And at 23 months you have plenty of time to get this solved. You will be fine, the dog just needs time to adjust and who knows what he went though before he got rescued. The training course will help as it will put him around other dogs and all those training coursed do is train YOU. Good luck Goldens are great dogs and very smart so he will get it figured out.

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    DMBSparty

  • Feed him lots of peanut butter before your guests arrive. Have your guests feed him peanut butter after they arrive. Feed him peanut butter when your guests decide to leave. Problem solved.

    This post was edited by Teddy Brewster on 4/8/2012 at 11:25 PM

    Teddy Brewster

  • DMBSparty said...

    5. I believe there is no such things as bad dogs, just bad owners. While there are exceptions to the rule find this to be the case with every dog I have been around.

    I won't say bad owners, but owners who aren't as aware as they could be. Sometimes you can be a good owner, but it might require a great owner to train a certain dog.

    Royal

  • Royal said...

    I won't say bad owners, but owners who aren't as aware as they could be. Sometimes you can be a good owner, but it might require a great owner to train a certain dog.

    I can agree with that. People do not realize how much work and corrections are needed when training a dog. However some dogs have behaviors that are not going to be correctable, the owner just needs to figure out if the dogs issues are minor enough to live with. My dog isn't perfect, however some of his behaviors I cannot correct, I just make sure that I do not put him in a position where he can make the mistakes.

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    DMBSparty

  • I appreciate the words of wisdom greatly. Will keep you posted on how the trainer session goes.
    I'm trying to put him in good situations, and if there is another dog/ person that is gaining his interest i put myself between them and reward him when he ignores the person. Also try to get him to listen to ME when he's all worked up by doing some simple commands (Sit, high five) so he can go out of attack mode.

    Tried to upload some photos but 24/7 won't let me do it. frustrated

    And He Got it

  • And He Got it! said...

    Adopted a golden Retriever 2 days ago and he is AWESOME but only to people he knows. He lunges and has a deep growl that intimidates most. He's never growled at me or lunged and he's extremely well trained. very affectionate, actually. We have 3 meetings with a professional trainer but wanted to get some pointers here too. He's 23 months old by the way

    Stick with the professional trainer and make sure your insurance is up to date.

    laservet

  • ass dan said...

    Stop.

    Tell that to someone's child when they're sitting in the emergency room. Aggressive dogs have no place around a family, if he wants it for a guard dog fine.

    OldOneEye

  • And He Got it! said...

    I appreciate the words of wisdom greatly. Will keep you posted on how the trainer session goes. I'm trying to put him in good situations, and if there is another dog/ person that is gaining his interest i put myself between them and reward him when he ignores the person. Also try to get him to listen to ME when he's all worked up by doing some simple commands (Sit, high five) so he can go out of attack mode.

    Tried to upload some photos but 24/7 won't let me do it. frustrated

    Sounds like you are on the right track. The dog is still young and will learn. Like I said unless you know exactly what his past living environment was it is tough. I have never rescued, I always have bought from breeders because I hunt and I like to train from a young age. I think a real help with my dog was that we only had him for two weeks before my son was born. So he was used to kids at a very young age, that and my dad has his brother and lives less then a 5 min walk away. So he was around kids and other dogs all the time as a pup.

    Just be patient, it is not going to happen overnight. Do not listen to the people telling you to put him down, he is to young for that, and can be trained to be a good dog. Also remember a tired dog is a good dog. See if there is a beach or lake somewhere that you can throw a tennis ball into and have him retrieve for you. I think you will be fine, it just may take a few weeks. And good luck, keep us up to date on the training.

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    DMBSparty

  • john winger said...

    2 tips.

    1) start the crate training today.

    2) Get familiar with the Leerburg way, ASAP. Dogs don't grow out bad behavior, you must train them on a DAILY basis who is in charge, every single day for the rest of the dogs life is a training day.

    http://leerburg.com/aggresiv.htm?set=1

    The first thing that needs to happen when trying to get control of a dominant dog is to have his pack order changed. He needs to be moved to the bottom of the list in terms of pack order. This is done by controlling every aspect of the dog's life. Dominant dogs do not sleep on the bed or in the bedroom. The best place to sleep goes to the pack leader. Dominant dogs never eat from the table. In fact, they are crated during meal time and are always fed "after dinner," (lower pack members always eat last).

    Another important point in establishing pack order is to remember the dog only plays with the toys the handler provides and the handler always takes possession of these toys at the end of the play session. The toys are ALWAYS put away and the dog is not allowed to play with them when the handler is not there. To leave them out only further stimulates a possessiveness in the dog for that toy. If the dog gets overly possessive towards a particular toy, then that toy is put away and never played with again.

    This is good advice for tropical fish too.

    Don't post poop!

    SeeRockCity

  • And He Got it! said...

    Adopted a golden Retriever 2 days ago and he is AWESOME but only to people he knows. He lunges and has a deep growl that intimidates most. He's never growled at me or lunged and he's extremely well trained. very affectionate, actually. We have 3 meetings with a professional trainer but wanted to get some pointers here too. He's 23 months old by the way

    Train the dog, DO NOT let the dog train you. And if there are significant others in the home, wife/gf, kids, they must be part of the training since they are also the 'alphas' in the home. Had a buddy, who was loud, train his rottweiler........the dog became accustomed to his bravado voice and ignored his wife. Dog went after wife. Dog disappeared to a mystery farm.
    ......kids often ask to go see dog at mystery farm.coffee

    UM, Green Bay and Chicago teams all have one thing in common: They all suck

    Clemenza

  • Clemenza said...

    Train the dog, DO NOT let the dog train you. And if there are significant others in the home, wife/gf, kids, they must be part of the training since they are also the 'alphas' in the home. Had a buddy, who was loud, train his rottweiler........the dog became accustomed to his bravado voice and ignored his wife. Dog went after wife. Dog disappeared to a mystery farm. ......kids often ask to go see dog at mystery farm.coffee

    Except for the kids part, you could substitute "Penis" for "Dog" and it would still be good advice.

    Don't post poop!

    SeeRockCity

  • Spartan8Ball said...

    You have to become the "Pack Leader".

    This is true whether it is related to the dog's current problem or not. Everything you do, the dog is last in line. Example: When you go outside with others, including the dog, you ensure your dog is let outside last.

    Maybe your trainer will include some negative behavior training where your dog will wear a shock collar and when he lunges at a person, you give the dog a shock. Sounds like you made the right call to bring in a trainer. Good luck.

    bigwali

  • Smack the dog in the mouth next time it growls. If it has any intelligence, it will learn fast.

    Nommad

  • do not, under any circumstances, play the peanutbutter licking game with this dog.

    AMwood