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Update on Cousins from Senior Bowl

  • I would take KC all day long. Great arm. Great character and huge upside. Throws in tight spots which most college QBs can't do right away.

    The moment is eternal

    Desert Green

  • Slightly above average.

    duffy munn

  • Batesianmimicry said...

    If Cousins somehow ends up grading as 1st round talent, I still don't see him getting drafted until the 2nd round. Who's going to draft a QB in the 2nd half of the first round? The Broncos? The Ravens?

    I still see him as a 3rd-4th round pick. He still has to compete with Tannehill, Foles, Osweiler, and Weeden. One of those 4 or him, will be the 3rd QB off the board, and likely it will occur in the 2nd round.

    49ers... Lock the thread

    Ogie Ogilthorpe ●

  • Batesianmimicry said...

    If Cousins somehow ends up grading as 1st round talent, I still don't see him getting drafted until the 2nd round. Who's going to draft a QB in the 2nd half of the first round? The Broncos? The Ravens?

    I still see him as a 3rd-4th round pick. He still has to compete with Tannehill, Foles, Osweiler, and Weeden. One of those 4 or him, will be the 3rd QB off the board, and likely it will occur in the 2nd round.

    I think he'll be a 2nd round guy. Weeden won't get drafted until late - dude turns 29 at the start of the next NFL season. Other than that, who the hell knows what order the rest will go in.

    Royal

  • Ogie Ogilthorpe said...

    49ers... Lock the thread

    After the Pats and Lions, the 49ers would be one of the last teams to draft him. Harbaugh is perfectly happy with Smith being the QB, and Kaepernick is a 2nd round pick who can execute the whole playbook (i.e. he can run QB reads and draws like Smith). Swapping out Tolzien for Cousins is a 6th round pick, not a 2nd rounder.

    Teams that would be in the market for a QB in the top 4 rounds:
    Dolphins
    Chiefs
    Colts (they're going to take Luck though)
    Jets
    Redskins
    Browns
    Bucs
    Cardinals
    Bears
    Seahawks
    Steelers

    There are probably others, but nothing else really sticks out/teams are already invested in a 1st rounder as of late (Vikings, Titans, etc.)

    Batesianmimicry

  • Desert Green said...

    I would take KC all day long. Great arm. Great character and huge upside. Throws in tight spots which most college QBs can't do right away.

    Crap, I accidentally hit downvote on this. Can someone please upvote the brother so it doesn't count against him?

    VanWilder

  • Batesianmimicry said...

    If Cousins somehow ends up grading as 1st round talent, I still don't see him getting drafted until the 2nd round. Who's going to draft a QB in the 2nd half of the first round? The Broncos? The Ravens?

    I still see him as a 3rd-4th round pick. He still has to compete with Tannehill, Foles, Osweiler, and Weeden. One of those 4 or him, will be the 3rd QB off the board, and likely it will occur in the 2nd round.

    Weeden is like 28 years old and Tannehill just broke his foot and will miss the combine.

    TheWitness419

  • I was hoping Linthicum would make some noise. He wasn't a huge part of our offense, but his best games were always against the toughest teams. He made a ton of plays against georgia, and he had a good game against alabama, too. He can play with the best competition out there, and he's the type of TE that is getting really popular, I thought Scheffler was a pretty good comparison.

    Thepostmen

  • I've said it before here, the guy throws a beautiful ball. If he has a good week, and looks good at the combine, there is no way he gets to the end of the 3rd round. There are no less than 8 NFL teams with aging or questionable QBs and about 2/3 legit 1st round QB picks. Weeden is too old. Who is going to use a 2-5th rounder on a guy that needs a couple years to develop...then he is 31 years old?

    aroz13 ●

  • I'll just downvote you instead for caring... Bruhtha (Hulk Hogan Voice).

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • Thepostmen said...

    I was hoping Linthicum would make some noise. He wasn't a huge part of our offense, but his best games were always against the toughest teams. He made a ton of plays against georgia, and he had a good game against alabama, too. He can play with the best competition out there, and he's the type of TE that is getting really popular, I thought Scheffler was a pretty good comparison.

    He had a really nice game in the reg season game with Wisky and I believe in the CCG game against them as well.

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • Batesianmimicry said...

    If Cousins somehow ends up grading as 1st round talent, I still don't see him getting drafted until the 2nd round. Who's going to draft a QB in the 2nd half of the first round? The Broncos? The Ravens?

    I still see him as a 3rd-4th round pick. He still has to compete with Tannehill, Foles, Osweiler, and Weeden. One of those 4 or him, will be the 3rd QB off the board, and likely it will occur in the 2nd round.

    Ravens?! I'm assuming that's a typo and you meant Raiders? I'd love the Ravens to get him, but he would have top drop to middle/late rounds.

    Spartaholic ●

  • duffy munn said...

    Slightly above average.

    lol

    I also love that this report comments on how strong Kirk's arm is when the arm chair Lombardi's on this board said it was a weak spot in his game.

    "Losing Benenoch is a mortal blow from which this program can't recover"-T-Pain

    Rogue Leader

  • Spartaholic said...

    Ravens?! I'm assuming that's a typo and you meant Raiders? I'd love the Ravens to get him, but he would have top drop to middle/late rounds.

    What I was getting at was that the Ravens wouldn't draft a QB with a 1st rounder, even though some people don't like Flacco. LIterally no team who finished in the top half of the NFL would use a 1st Rounder on a QB, they are all pretty set with their starters. The exceptions would be Houston, who has plenty of talent, and will probably stick with Schaub (and what they have is really good), and the Browns who have Atlanta's pick (#22), in addition to #4. Again, with the Browns, they should have a shot at RGIII (unless a trade occurs), so why would they draft someone with their next pick?

    As for Tannehill, his stock will definitely drop (i thought he was overrated anyways). Weeden won't be drafted before Cousins, but he does affect every QB (outside of RGIII and Luck) in the draft. If you think you can pick up Weeden in the 5th or 6th round, you may balk on drafting Foles or Cousins in the 2nd.

    Batesianmimicry

  • Charlie Bernstein (ESPN Florida and Fox Sports analyst) just tweeted this:

    Kirk Cousins has been very impressive early in this practice. He looks like the only #NFL QB on this roster

    arfabe16

  • Scott Wright has a post on the weigh in that took place yesterday:

    KC weighed in at 209 and measured at 6' 2.25" and "Notes: Decent muscle tone and looked the best of all the QBs."

    He listed Linthicum as having "Little definition but large, rangy, and athletic."

    Its over here if you want to read an adult man comment on the bodies of 22 year olds:

    Senior Bowl Weigh-In Results, NFL Draft - DraftCountdown.com

    Weigh-In Results from the 2012 Senior Bowl in Mobile, Alabama from Scott Wright of Draft Countdown

    www.draftcountdown.com

    Spartan Butters ●

  • FYI. The Vikings staff is coaching the North team, which Cousins is on, and the Redskins staff is coaching the South team. A bit of bad luck for Cousins, b/c I think that if the Redskins were coaching the North team, there's a chance that they could really like what they see and take him at the top of the 2nd round...

    Since it's the Vikings, I'm not holding my breath...

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    Jandy

  • The Redskins aren't taking him.

    PPTPW.

    Gods03

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Here's the official SR Bowl thread: put all future updates in there.

    http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Board/93/tOfficial-Senior-Bowl-Thread-7145540/1

    If we post in here now, but it's after your post is that a future update?

    Don't post poop!

    SeeRockCity ●

  • Good to hear. Also I think it's awesome to hear Linthicum is impressing.

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    TheBlitzIsOn

  • arfabe16 said...

    Charlie Bernstein (ESPN Florida and Fox Sports analyst) just tweeted this:

    Kirk Cousins has been very impressive early in this practice. He looks like the only #NFL QB on this roster

    Dammit, out of upvotes.

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    SpartanInNH

  • jandern3 said...

    FYI. The Vikings staff is coaching the North team, which Cousins is on, and the Redskins staff is coaching the South team. A bit of bad luck for Cousins, b/c I think that if the Redskins were coaching the North team, there's a chance that they could really like what they see and take him at the top of the 2nd round...

    Since it's the Vikings, I'm not holding my breath...

    Everybody is looking at everything all the time... AND ESPECIALLY it's not like the Skins aren't going to notice the QB they are going against.

    I couldn't care less what round he goes in, as long as he gets in a good situation

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • Rogue Leader said...

    lol

    I also love that this report comments on how strong Kirk's arm is when the arm chair Lombardi's on this board said it was a weak spot in his game.

    I've never understood that. His arm is probably average or just slightly below average for an NFL QB. He at times put too much on balls for college receivers. His arm strength is more than fine, and combined with the accuracy and touch and how amazingly catchable his medium/deep passes have been from his first college start... It's an NFL level ball he throws.

    IF I'm allowed to actually honestly critique him now that he's gone... The questions I'd have are pocket presence, mobility, and reading defenses... Seriously 3 of his last 10 passes in the Outback bowl should have been picks, I believe 2 of them were... He just doesn't see defenders sometimes.

    It's almost impossible to watch now, which is sad... but Kirk was truly elite in that B1GCCG. Maybe 4 bad throws all game, and the pick was one of those throws where you just let it go, you aren't even expected to read before you deliver it. A couple really nice throws to KMart on outs where it loops over the LBs and in front of the safties. The 4th and 1 to BJ was just perfect, he threw a 30 yard marshmallow in stride on 4th down.

    Marriage is like flying with kids, if the flight had 500 connections, never ended, Ted Striker were your pilot and you ate the fish.

    Pylon St8ofmind ●

  • Pylon St8ofmind said...

    It's almost impossible to watch now, which is sad... but Kirk was truly elite in that B1GCCG. Maybe 4 bad throws all game, and the pick was one of those throws where you just let it go, you aren't even expected to read before you deliver it. A couple really nice throws to KMart on outs where it loops over the LBs and in front of the safties. The 4th and 1 to BJ was just perfect, he threw a 30 yard marshmallow in stride on 4th down.

    Amen. He kept us in that fucking game. That pick was his only bonehead play, but yeah, let it go.

    I'm really gonna miss him.

    Do you respect wood?

    Death Roe ●

  • Ogie Ogilthorpe said...

    49ers... Lock the thread

    Writing as a Bay Area Spartan, I really hope this happens.

    PPTPW51983

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