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I can't be a M fan because I said something good about OSU? Where did I bring M into all of this?

Notice I said, "rest of the B1G" not "rest of the B1G except Michigan."

And what part of what I said I was false?

OSU has already dominated the conference the last 10 years or so if you haven't noticed.

They have played in 3 NC games as well as a slew of other BCS games and have won the conference something like 8 of the past 10 years. Seems to me their already dominating and getting a guy like Urban is only going to add to that IMO.

And since you brought it up, I do think Gardner is going to be a serviceable QB for M.

Well when your plan is to just wait and see who someone else is recruiting then just go after them I can see why he wants the rest of the coaches to step it up.

This guy is burning so many bridges eventually it will catch up to him.

Shocking take

have you ever heard of the word 'standards'?

Another point is this... The B1G doesn't oversign and run kids off therefore this leads to on average smaller recruiting classes which are always ranked lower than classes that are high in number.

I don't think academic reputation automatically goes away once the football program goes full sleaze-ball.

OSU made tremendous strides in the random academic rankings and the like at the same time that Tressel was going rogue in the football program.

Kentucky has a so-so academic reputation not because Cal is shady, but because it is actually a so-so school.

Just like UM has a great academic reputation despite the shadiness of their football program and the marginal academic quality of their "student-athletes." Same with OSU. And MSU.

I don't want anyone to cheat, but considering we already sacrifice academic standards when admitting student-athletes, i'm not sure why it has any place in the discussion. It is what it is, and has been happening in the B1G for a long-time.

I hope they tell him to fuck off.

Ok, but in essence what he is implying is that none of the Big Ten coaches have been trying. It really is an insult. He is acting like "Hey, recruit better players!" is some kind of unique, revolutionary idea that no one else thought of. He is implying that what is happening needs to change, so he is implying the Big Ten needs to do "something" that none out of 11 other guys have been doing. THAT is a suspicious proposition, because what exactly could he be implying that not one of them has been doing (or at least doing successfully)?

Side piece, SEC tactics, Quitting/not quitting/quitting/time with family/job at ESPN/new major college hire... I would be worried about the things that seem natural to Urban Meyer and not to any other coach.

Interesting since Urban KNOWS that the score after the Nut/MSU game gave him the win, but he got lucky due to the fumble/TD being called back. He is such pond scum. AND - who does he thing HE is? The self-appointed ambassador of all things Big 10?

There's not enough talent in the north to recruit that well. The SEC dominates because the best talent is in the south.

haters gonna hate.

the whine is excessive in this thread.

MSU just needs to roll out on the field and win games. bottom line.

JUCOs, exCONs, stuff some pockets..... do what you have to do.

If you want to be in the big time you cant half ass it.

Meyer is right - B1G is slipping further behind the other conferences and we haven't had a legit contender in years. B1G is supposed to be the wealthiest conference because of all the BTN / TV money but why aren't the schools investing the money into the football programs?