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Webb May Soon Visit MSU Again

  • http://michiganstate.247sports.com/Article/4-Star-DB-Damon-Webb-Might-Soon-Visit-Michigan-State-Again-109339

    4-Star defensive back and Spartan target Damon Webb has visited Michigan State before. He might soon be back in East Lansing for another visit.

    Bill Kurelic

  • Bill, you think there is a leader? thanks

    nysparty1 ●

  • I know a lot of people will say he likes UM but he will have to compete with all his Cass teamates for PT. Hill was taken as a CB, they have Richardson, Lewis (might get a shot at WR) Howell. Not to mention all the other guys they are bringing in at DB. MSU would seem like the best fit if he wanted to play early.

    This post was edited by hayesr8 on 1/2/2013 at 8:35 AM

    hayesr8

  • hayesr8 said...

    I know a lot of people will say he likes UM but he will have to compete with all his Cass teamates for PT. Hill was taken as a CB, they have Richardson, Lewis (might get a shot at WR) Howell. Not to mention all the other guys they are bringing in at DB. MSU would seem like the best fit if he wanted to play early.

    In '14, MSU will have at CB:

    RS SR M. Hicks
    RS JR Colquhoun and Waynes
    RS Soph Ezra Robinson and Jermaine Edmondson
    RS FR D. Hicks

    Not sure that there's a huge opportunity to play as a true FR, but his RS Soph year there'll only be 3 CBs on the roster (which is why MSU needs to take 2 in '14).

    I'm pretty sure Webb is Blue, but who knows? It's early.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • If he wants to develop himself as a DB, the best coach for him in the B1G is Dantonio. By comparison, yesterday's UM game cemented that fact. But...he just might want to follow the CT crowd to Ann Arbor, in which case there is not much we can do about it.

    Tupes ●

  • Well to date Hick,Colquhoun, haven't done anything. Robinson has had good reviews. Hicks isn't even on Campus yet. Edmondson had some tyoe of injury. Waynes looks to be a stud.

    hayesr8

  • hayesr8 said...

    Well to date Hick,Colquhoun, haven't done anything. Robinson has had good reviews. Hicks isn't even on Campus yet. Edmondson had some tyoe of injury. Waynes looks to be a stud.

    You could argue that none of them are proven, though I did like what I saw of Waynes in the bowl game (very small sample size). Just saying in terms of looking at the roster, there isn't a gaping hole at CB in the future, especially since a couple of those guys are going to be getting major PT in '13 (open starting spot).

    Tupes makes a great point; MD develops DBs very well and Adams is going to be drafted.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • Not to argue but i believe we do have a hole at CB. If they were talking about moving Lipett back for the bowl game because of Adams injury, that tells me the guys practicing everyday at CB arn't that good. Not to mention Mitchell White is horrible and these guys couldn't unseat him.

    hayesr8

  • hayesr8 said...

    Not to argue but i believe we do have a hole at CB. If they were talking about moving Lipett back for the bowl game because of Adams injury, that tells me the guys practicing everyday at CB arn't that good. Not to mention Mitchell White is horrible and these guys couldn't unseat him.

    Totally agree on Lippett. He's tall and fast and showed a lot of promise...but the knock on him I read was he's not physical, and under a Dantonio defense, that's an unpardonable sin.

    Tupes ●

  • Don't want to derail the thread too much, but I was always curious about why Mylan Hicks has not been able to get onto the field. He was a very highly ranked recruit and he hasn't really done anything at MSU.

    WavSpartan ●

  • WavSpartan said...

    Don't want to derail the thread too much, but I was always curious about why Mylan Hicks has not been able to get onto the field. He was a very highly ranked recruit and he hasn't really done anything at MSU.

    He's had back injuries his entire time at MSU.

    Natron tSpartan

  • hayesr8 said...

    Not to argue but i believe we do have a hole at CB. If they were talking about moving Lipett back for the bowl game because of Adams injury, that tells me the guys practicing everyday at CB arn't that good. Not to mention Mitchell White is horrible and these guys couldn't unseat him.

    I don't know if anyone outside of internet speculation actually referenced Lippet back to D

    Natron tSpartan

  • Coach D mentioned it when he anounced that Adams wouldn't play.he said that they had White Waynes and lippett who has experience. Granted he never said was practicing or getting reps but he was mentioned. Arjen and Hicks wenr't.

    hayesr8

  • My thought on this kid is simple "Go Green or Go South". I don't want to see this kid in Maize and Blue

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    Eggy

  • Tupes said...

    If he wants to develop himself as a DB, the best coach for him in the B1G is Dantonio. By comparison, yesterday's UM game cemented that fact. But...he just might want to follow the CT crowd to Ann Arbor, in which case there is not much we can do about it.

    Lock it. Spot on.

    If you are a DB, there is NO better place to go than MSU and be coached up by Coach D. When it comes to defense, specifically the DB, our staff is the best there is in the B1G - and this includes the saviors in AA.

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    Hank Moody

  • SpartanRocky said...

    You could argue that none of them are proven, though I did like what I saw of Waynes in the bowl game (very small sample size). Just saying in terms of looking at the roster, there isn't a gaping hole at CB in the future, especially since a couple of those guys are going to be getting major PT in '13 (open starting spot).

    Tupes makes a great point; MD develops DBs very well and Adams is going to be drafted.

    I'd like to see us get to the point that if you come in and earn a spot to play you will have that opportunity regardless of class/age. No matter the sport I think we need to shift our focus to "if you are good enough then you will play". I get the philosophy of earning your playing time but it isn't doing the player, the team or the fanbase any favors by playing a guy simply because he's paid dues. I see flashes of this with Harris and Valentine in bball and Burbridge in fball but I wonder how this fball season would have been different if Cook got more PT when Maxwell simply wasn't getting the job done. I see successful programs sell 4 and 5 star players on the "if you are good enough you'll play" philosophy not on "we already have some guys ahead of you in your position but maybe by your sophomore year you'll get PT". Come spring time we need to open up all the spots and say only the best will earn PT. You gotta bring it every day or else someone will take your spot.

    EZMAC

  • It's great that DW is focusing on the 3 B1G schools because it gives us a legitimate shot. However, and this isn't a slight to um, yesterday's bowl game was a glaring depiction of where he'll play the earliest. While I don't think we're deep or stacked in the secondary, we're probably alot better off than they are.

    Skip1856 ●

  • EZMAC said...

    I'd like to see us get to the point that if you come in and earn a spot to play you will have that opportunity regardless of class/age. No matter the sport I think we need to shift our focus to "if you are good enough then you will play". I get the philosophy of earning your playing time but it isn't doing the player, the team or the fanbase any favors by playing a guy simply because he's paid dues. I see flashes of this with Harris and Valentine in bball and Burbridge in fball but I wonder how this fball season would have been different if Cook got more PT when Maxwell simply wasn't getting the job done. I see successful programs sell 4 and 5 star players on the "if you are good enough you'll play" philosophy not on "we already have some guys ahead of you in your position but maybe by your sophomore year you'll get PT". Come spring time we need to open up all the spots and say only the best will earn PT. You gotta bring it every day or else someone will take your spot.

    Coach D has always been open to " If you are good enough you will play". There have been several true frosh play and or start for Dantonio. So I really do not see your point-MAC.

    CoachL

  • CoachL said...

    Coach D has always been open to " If you are good enough you will play". There have been several true frosh play and or start for Dantonio. So I really do not see your point-MAC.

    Yea, off of this, Rucker, J5 and Dennard all started games as true FR (though Dennard due to Rucker's suspension). No doubt that J5 and Dennard were the best 2 CBs on the team this year.

    The whole "best player starts no matter what" doesn't seem to be a problem on defense; Tai Jones beat out Norman and Drummond beat out J. Jones for the FS spot during the year. Those are examples of younger players starting over veterans.

    On offense . . . well, we'll see. For all the complaints about the staff not using Burbridge till the IU game, remember he got hurt during fall camp and missed all the summer conditioning because of his grade issues. I really think it took him a month + to get up to speed and the staff wasn't going to throw him out there until he was completely healed and had enough of the playbook down.

    Other than at WR, the other issue would be at QB, but I think that's getting resolved this spring; it'll be an open competition.

    Sorry for the hijack.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky ●

  • hayesr8 said...

    Not to argue but i believe we do have a hole at CB. If they were talking about moving Lipett back for the bowl game because of Adams injury, that tells me the guys practicing everyday at CB arn't that good. Not to mention Mitchell White is horrible and these guys couldn't unseat him.

    Keep in mind though Adam's was a game week injury. Lippett and White had the most experience at the position. That's probably your best bet on a short prep.

    dagomike

  • EZMAC said...

    I'd like to see us get to the point that if you come in and earn a spot to play you will have that opportunity regardless of class/age. No matter the sport I think we need to shift our focus to "if you are good enough then you will play". I get the philosophy of earning your playing time but it isn't doing the player, the team or the fanbase any favors by playing a guy simply because he's paid dues. I see flashes of this with Harris and Valentine in bball and Burbridge in fball but I wonder how this fball season would have been different if Cook got more PT when Maxwell simply wasn't getting the job done. I see successful programs sell 4 and 5 star players on the "if you are good enough you'll play" philosophy not on "we already have some guys ahead of you in your position but maybe by your sophomore year you'll get PT". Come spring time we need to open up all the spots and say only the best will earn PT. You gotta bring it every day or else someone will take your spot.

    They do that now. Guys will get playing time if they're good enough to win games. QB is a different discussion. And basketball is, well, another sport!

    Certainly players have to do everything right in areas other than game day to earn that playing time, but I think the idea kids are being held back just because of their class year is incorrect. And I don't recall any quote from a recruit saying they were told they have to wait. It's always they'll get a chance to compete with no empty promises.

    dagomike

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    Bill Kurelic

  • Skip1856 said...

    It's great that DW is focusing on the 3 B1G schools because it gives us a legitimate shot. However, and this isn't a slight to um, yesterday's bowl game was a glaring depiction of where he'll play the earliest. While I don't think we're deep or stacked in the secondary, we're probably alot better off than they are.

    Sad part of scUM db's getting lit up yesterday is that a lot of them are high star (4/5) recruits. This leads to the selling point for MSU and Coach D: ->MSU recruits come in with 2 stars and leave with 4. Come in with 3 stars and you'll leave with 5. Come in with 5 stars and you'll leave early with a nice NFL signing bonus and huge NFL paycheck. Look at Bell (2 star recruit ) and Gholston (5 star PSL recruit). We are the "TOP GUN" of the BIG and Webb should follow the trail to the treasure in East Lansing. If he thinks he's good now, we'll make him better! especially with a Bell-like attitude and Gholston-like work ethic.

    damrhein

  • SpartanRocky said...

    In '14, MSU will have at CB:

    RS SR M. Hicks
    RS JR Colquhoun and Waynes
    RS Soph Ezra Robinson and Jermaine Edmondson
    RS FR D. Hicks

    Not sure that there's a huge opportunity to play as a true FR, but his RS Soph year there'll only be 3 CBs on the roster (which is why MSU needs to take 2 in '14).

    I'm pretty sure Webb is Blue, but who knows? It's early.

    Good post. I'm excited for the next wave of corners in the arsenal. Speed and size.

    "Losing Benenoch is a mortal blow from which this program can't recover"-T-Pain

    Rogue Leader

  • Tupes said...

    If he wants to develop himself as a DB, the best coach for him in the B1G is Dantonio. By comparison, yesterday's UM game cemented that fact. But...he just might want to follow the CT crowd to Ann Arbor, in which case there is not much we can do about it.

    Cemented what fact? That our 2 starting CB's were our for the game, or that the team will not be fully complete with elite starters and depth from top to bottom who were actually recruited by this staff for another 2-3 years.

    This post was edited by Awink2 on 1/3/2013 at 4:40 AM

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    Awink2 ●

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