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What's with white trash in MI and the confederate flag?

  • DnvrSprtnhd said...

    uh you do realize that hundreds of thousands of appalachian hill folk moved to Michigan in the early 20th century to work in the auto industry. That's why it is called Ypsitucky. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillbilly_Highway

    Sorry, but half those people don't even know where their ancestors are from. I'm guessing if you have a confederate flag on your car there is a 95% chance you're a racist.

    007Spartan

  • DnvrSprtnhd said...

    uh you do realize that hundreds of thousands of appalachian hill folk moved to Michigan in the early 20th century to work in the auto industry. That's why it is called Ypsitucky. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillbilly_Highway

    Uh... I hope they realize that they can get in their trucks and move back. They can still cheer for SCum and they have food stamps in the south now.

    biologos

  • DnvrSprtnhd said...

    uh you do realize that hundreds of thousands of appalachian hill folk moved to Michigan in the early 20th century to work in the auto industry. That's why it is called Ypsitucky. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillbilly_Highway

    It wasn't just early 20th century. The migration continued into the 1960's, but the war years were the peak. The Cass Corridor, now known as "Midtown" was often their first stop if they settled in Detroit. From there they often often went to Brightmoor on the far west side of Detroit or the Briggs neighborhood north of Tiger Stadium if less upwardly mobile. Others moved to the lower east side of Detroit near the old Chrysler Jefferson Avenue Assembly Plant. Obviously, downriver (River Rouge, Ecorse, and Taylor) became primary surburban destinations. For the northern suburbs, Hazel Park was very popular and Madison Heights to a lesser degree.

    I know Pontiac and Flint were also large white southern migration destinations. Hence, the Dixie Highway name. I'm guessing Lansing had a significant number, but don't really know that story,

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  • TruGreenSpartan said...

    a friend of my roomate's wore a confederate skull cap for a while and we had a lond discussion about it one drunken night. He said he wasn't racist and wore it because the flag didn't stand for the confederacy and pro slavery anymore but instead for anarchy and antigoverment beliefs.

    everyone else told him during the discussion that to every African American he sees walking down the street, and most white people, it still stands for racisim and pro slavery beliefs no matter what a select few people now claim it stands for.

    He stopped wearing the stupid thing the next day.

    lol

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  • Man some people need to get out of Michigan for once in their lives.

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  • 007Spartan said...

    I'm guessing

    Yes, you are.

    spartanMF

  • AvgMSUJoe said...

    Is it just the implied racism they are down with? I don't get it. You would think they would be happy and proud being a northerner (with the winning and all, kind of like the trailer trash um fan)... or proud of their Michiganian heritage with all of their great great great great grandpapy's fighting the dumbass southerners.

    Yeah, you like your truck... sweet. and you prefer Budweiser. uh, ok... John Deere hat? Whatever, it's your head.

    But a confederate flag? really?

    How about some tolerance? Where is your embrace of diversity?

    Green Note

  • Fort Wayne Dave said...

    Its a totally racist, "in your face up yours" sign to anyone who sees it. For me the confederate flag is the flag of traitors and treason...plain and simple. And I know what I'd like to do to traitors and those that plot treason censored

    Ok, I see the Confederate flags as ignorant and racist, however the Civil War was about states rights and not Slavery. The people that fly it now, IMO do it as a racist ac and are ignorant to what the war was about. Yes the war did help end slavery and obviously that is a positive and keeping the states in the confederacy is better for the country, however I would not call them traitors, I would just call them ignorant racists.

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  • Green Note said...

    How about some tolerance? Where is your embrace of diversity?

    This is the beauty of this thread.

    spartanMF

  • Green Note said...

    How about some tolerance? Where is your embrace of diversity?

    We do not tolerate.......... Intolerance....

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  • DMBSparty said...

    Ok, I see the Confederate flags as ignorant and racist, however the Civil War was about states rights and not Slavery.

    Bbbbzzzzzt.

    Incorrect. It was about the state's rights to allow slaves to be owned. There was no other issue with the economic impact to drive a war at hand during that time.

    But, keep telling yourself it was about nebulous State's Rights, instead of a direct threat to the ability of those states to allow slaves to be owned.

    This post was edited by Beardy on 6/23/2012 at 4:40 PM

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  • Beardy said...

    Bbbbzzzzzt.

    Incorrect. It was about the state's rights to allow slaves to be owned. There was no other issue with the economic impact to drive a war at hand during that time.

    Ultimately it was about states rights of secession.

    Robert E. Lee was not a defender of slavery.

    spartanMF

  • spartanMF said...

    Ultimately it was about states rights of secession.

    Robert E. Lee was not a defender of slavery.

    No secession without a movement towards freeing the slaves.

    Beardy ●

  • Beardy said...

    Bbbbzzzzzt.

    Incorrect. It was about the state's rights to allow slaves to be owned. There was no other issue with the economic impact to drive a war at hand during that time.

    But, keep telling yourself it was about nebulous State's Rights, instead of a direct threat to the ability of those states to allow slaves to be owned.

    Yes, people act like slavery wasn't the driving force of political division before the war. If the south had just said "eh, we're done with slaves" there would have been no war.

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  • Rocket_Play said...

    Yes, people act like slavery wasn't the driving force of political division before the war. If the south had just said "eh, we're done with slaves" there would have been no war.

    Or, if the North would have said, go ahead and secede, there would have been no war.

    spartanMF

  • spartanMF said...

    Or, if the North would have said, go ahead and secede, there would have been no war.

    Like we would have let those pussy ass southerners cripple our economy?
    And imagine how different WWII would have went with the CSA attacking us on our home front.

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  • Rocket_Play said...

    Like we would have let those pussy ass southerners cripple our economy? And imagine how different WWII would have went with the CSA attacking us on our home front.

    I don't think I am following you. The southern economy at the time was driven by slavery.

    spartanMF

  • spartanMF said...

    I don't think I am following you. The southern economy at the time was driven by slavery.

    It's both ways. A northern political agenda was at the time threatening to undermine the entire southern economy. If abolition had gone through, the South would have lost everything.

    Naturally, the South didn't want to see their economy crash, so they felt they had the right to seceed from a nation that no longer represented their best interests.

    Of course, the entire root of the issue WAS slavery, and if the South had been more willing to find alternatives to slavery, there would also have been no war.

    Looking back on it from a modern perspective is the wrong issue to take, I think.

    WesternSpartan

  • WesternSpartan said...

    It's both ways. A northern political agenda was at the time threatening to undermine the entire southern economy. If abolition had gone through, the South would have lost everything.

    Naturally, the South didn't want to see their economy crash, so they felt they had the right to seceed from a nation that no longer represented their best interests.

    Of course, the entire root of the issue WAS slavery, and if the South had been more willing to find alternatives to slavery, there would also have been no war.

    Looking back on it from a modern perspective is the wrong issue to take, I think.

    I don't disagree with your post. Was keeping the original 7 states of the Confederate Constitution in the Union worth 618,000 lives? Looking back, since so many people from the north STILL hate the south, was it worth it?

    spartanMF

  • For the sake of discussion, had the CSA attained independence, would they most likely have aligned with the British, leading the U.S.A. to possibly align with the Central Powers during WW1?

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  • I think the confederate flag is probably a southern pride thing for most people who fly it, but black people absolutely have irrational freak outs over it. I've been with my black friends, and they tried to start a furious fight with these hillbillies who were flying it. The billies didnt really seem racist, but they didn't care.

    High Yield

  • Rocket_Play said...

    Like we would have let those pussy ass southerners cripple our economy? And imagine how different WWII would have went with the CSA attacking us on our home front.

    So you are saying it was about the south crippling our economy by seceding? So the war was about money?

    I do believe that Slavery was one reason of many that the Civil War was fought, but I do not believe that Lincoln was some super hero that freed slaves, in fact I think he used them to gain support for the war effort and during the war. It was more about money then anything else.

    This post was edited by DMBSparty on 6/23/2012 at 7:00 PM

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  • It's a flag of racists and traitors...

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  • AvgMSUJoe said...

    Then what is it?

    I saw a kid (from the thumb, of course) at a graduation party I attended last week with a huge ass tattoo of a skull/confederate flag... I have been stumped on WTF is that us supposed to even mean ever since... And a dumbass in the neighborhood has a shitty truck with the flag on the back, I don't get it...

    I think there's a lot of racism around those parts. From what I hear, they really, really don't like black people for whatever reason.

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  • DMBSparty said...

    So you are saying it was about the south crippling our economy by seceding? So the war was about money?

    I do believe that Slavery was one reason of many that the Civil War was fought, but I do not believe that Lincoln was some super hero that freed slaves, in fact I think he used them to gain support for the war effort and during the war. It was more about money then anything else.

    All war is about money, in the end.

    In this case it was about the money tied to slavery.

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