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The Rose Bowl is all that matters. It is the goal.

It's not the BCS National Championship Game logo that's plastered all over the practice field and Skandalaris Center, it's the Rose Bowl logo.

The Rose Bowl is just the symbol of a B10 championship, that's the real goal. I know there's a lot of B10 history in Pasadena, but there's very little MSU history.ß

The Rose Bowl is the Granddaddy of them all. I am glad the Big Ten and Rose Bowl are doing what they can to keep that tradition alive.

Because under the current system the title game is meaningless and a farce. It's a made up title that serves no one.

The Rose Bowl is an awesome setting, its traditional, it's always had the B1G's back, both parties have made a lot of money off of each other and it's the one major bowl that has stayed true to its roots/mission.

That being said...I have no problem with it being excluded from a playoff. Send the winner of the B1G Champ game to a playoff and the loser to the Rose Bowl...same with the PXII. You'll still get sweet match up between two really good teams that represent the style of the B1G and PXII most years. Plus you'll reward division winners who generally have good seasons.

It's not like the RB has ever concerned itself with the MNC before...why should it start now?

In fact I think the 3 old BCS major Bowls should say screw the BCS and follow the same pattern.

B1G FCG runner up v. PXII runner up in Rose Bowl
ACC v. BE in Orange Bowl
SEC v. B12 in Sugar Bowl

The Fiesta can go back to its roots as a mid major bowl...It's a shameful organization anyway. (Though I think the cotton Bowl should be raised to a higher level...)

Reserve New Years Day to spotlight those three games. (No Playoff on NYD).

Rose Bowl is great and all but I don't understand why b10 loves it so much. It's on the opposite side of the country in the PAC12s back yard. Never made sense to me. Have USC come play at Lucas Oil every year and see how they like it.

There are several domed stadia in the midwest. Let's use them for the Championship Games.

Exactly. Some posters are droning on and on about "tradition" and all that bullshit, but in the last 11 Rose Bowls, 6 teams came from outside the B1G/PXII (Miami, Nebraska (as a member of B12), Oklahoma, Texas (twice), and TCU). In that same span, there were 5 Rose Bowls that didn't feature the B1G champ (02, 03, 06, 07, 08) and 3 that didn't feature the PXII champ (02, 05, 11).

I'll take a shot at a national title over playing in the Rose Bowl. College football is changing for the better. Time to evolve or get left behind.

Yawn. It's another flawed system. Also, the Big Ten is never going to be left behind in any of these decisions. It is too powerful of a conference.

I only support two ways forward for college football:

1. Abandon the bowl system and create a 16-32 team NCAA playoff.

2. Go back to the pre-1994 system. Regular season, traditional bowl matchups, and then the pollsters can vote on who the champion is.

It's such a simple resolution. I fail to understand my money is emphasized over logic these days.

It's the difference between getting a burrito at Taco Bell versus a burrito at Mi Pueblo in Mexicantown. Sure it's cheaper at Taco Bell, but is that what you really want?

How old are you?

The "why" is the question here.

Why are so many people attached to a bowl game that MSU has participated in only once in the past 45 years? I wonder how Minnesota, Indiana, Purdue, Illinois and Iowa fans feel about it? Is it because it's normally the end result of a B1G championship?

And I have actually been to the game. I camped out the night before to get a good spot for the parade. I've seen the "pagentry." I just don't get how a fan base can be so completely tied to a game that they have never regularly participated in. Is it watching umAA get it's ass kicked on a regular basis that makes it special? Or for that matter, watching many B1G teams lose?