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Will Hollis go down as MSU's greatest AD?

  • Me thinks so. That article in the Snews today was great.
    http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120505/OPINION03/205050394/1132/sports0202/Playoff-not-Mark-Hollis-wants-MSU-football-schedule-strong-side

    Keeping the sunshiners in check since 2000.

    Tanfan

  • No love for Ron Mason?

    TPain151807 ●

  • T-Pain said...

    No love for Ron Mason?

    Correct. No love for Mason.

    Jor El

  • T-Pain said...

    No love for Ron Mason?

    No Dr Kearney will be the greatest in my mind. He did a great job of bringing in two great coaches in Jud Heathcote and Darryl Rogers and turned around the rest of the program.

    Rogers took a team on probation and won a Big Ten Championship in 1978.

    Jud won National Championship in 1979.

    Unless Hollis increases the seating capacity and keeps up with everyone else and fulfills the vision Biggie Munn had for the football program he will be behind Kearney. Rail paint and a larger scoreboard are not enough.

    I don't mind tough scheduling in basketball, but in football in can hurt you and hurt your brand very quickly. That's why Barry Alvarez of Wisconsin have studied this and why they schedule three puff-n-stuffs to their non-conference slant of the four games. Lloyd Carr also came to the same conclusion. Which is why you see UMass, UConn, BG, EMU, and schools like that on UM's schedule. UM in past years took Virginia Tech, North Carolina, and Fresno State off their schedule and replaced those schools with lesser opponents.

    If Nebraska is now in the conference and you are playing Notre Dame on a regular basis, that is enough. He is worrying about what fans want to watch, which is fine, but there is players safety issues as well and competing for Championships. This tougher scheduling puts a lot of pressure on football coaches to keep their jobs as well. Tougher non-conference scheduling and then missing out on bigger bowl games and Championships because you think that's what fans want to see is not the way to go.

    In basketball--you can afford non-conference losses, in football, it will hurt you greatly.

    PassTheRock

  • Drinking with Ron Mason is on my bucket list, drinking with Hollis is not... just saying

    Haters gonna hate!

    TempleSpartan ●

  • PassTheRock said...

    Unless Hollis increases the seating capacity

    Really?

    We couldn't even fill up the stadium for a couple games last year

    TPain151807 ●

  • What other AD has had the impact on the national sports scene like Hollis? Would the Final Four be at midfield in a football stadium every year? Would the Winter Classic be the biggest event on the NHL's regular season calendar?

    (Yes I know he wasn't AD, but he was the driving force behind the Cold War and BasketBowl)

    PRStoetzer

  • Biggie Munn?

    Lurking on tRCMB since 1996

    TrapperGus

  • T-Pain said...

    Really?

    We couldn't even fill up the stadium for a couple games last year

    That's because it goes to the theory--if you build it, they will come. Wolverines had a lot of empty seats and they were told they were crazy when they increased their seating capacity.
    Then they started selling out. If you spread out the costs over more people, more people will come.

    MSU usually has one of the best annual season ticket sales usually. You don't to beat Michigan in actual seats, but if you get just over 100,000 seats, it will help more with recruits and national branding, and create the interest to fill the seats.

    PassTheRock

  • PassTheRock said...

    That's because it goes to the theory--if you build it, they will come. Wolverines had a lot of empty seats and they were told they were crazy when they increased their seating capacity.
    Then they started selling out. If you spread out the costs over more people, more people will come.

    MSU usually has one of the best annual season ticket sales usually. You don't to beat Michigan in actual seats, but if you get just over 100,000 seats, it will help more with recruits and national branding, and create the interest to fill the seats.

    There isn't room at the current site to expand to 100,000

    TPain151807 ●

  • TrapperGus said...

    Biggie Munn?

    Had Biggie Munn lived, MSU wouldn't have had all the problems with poor AD and coaching selections in the years that followed.

    Munn wanted to increase seating capacity and upgrade facilities before he died.

    MSU was usually around Number #2 or #3 in attendance in the nation in the 60's but then kept getting passed by schools upgrading their facilities.

    PassTheRock

  • T-Pain said...

    There isn't room at the current site to expand to 100,000

    Enclose the end zones, which by the way, helps with noise level as well.

    PassTheRock

  • PassTheRock said...

    Enclose the end zones, which by the way, helps with noise level as well.

    The more important thing is the additional revenue from 15-25k more seats would be HUGE for the athletic program and increase our resources many times over.

    I thought there was a 2020 plan to increase the seating capacity. If we have a few more seasons like these past couple years (I know, asking alot) the demand will skyrocket and we will need more.

    This is all a bit of a dream right now though.

    SpartanPride204 ●

  • PassTheRock said...

    No Dr Kearney will be the greatest in my mind. He did a great job of bringing in two great coaches in Jud Heathcote and Darryl Rogers and turned around the rest of the program.

    Rogers took a team on probation and won a Big Ten Championship in 1978.

    Jud won National Championship in 1979.

    Unless Hollis increases the seating capacity and keeps up with everyone else and fulfills the vision Biggie Munn had for the football program he will be behind Kearney. Rail paint and a larger scoreboard are not enough.

    I don't mind tough scheduling in basketball, but in football in can hurt you and hurt your brand very quickly. That's why Barry Alvarez of Wisconsin have studied this and why they schedule three puff-n-stuffs to their non-conference slant of the four games. Lloyd Carr also came to the same conclusion. Which is why you see UMass, UConn, BG, EMU, and schools like that on UM's schedule. UM in past years took Virginia Tech, North Carolina, and Fresno State off their schedule and replaced those schools with lesser opponents.

    If Nebraska is now in the conference and you are playing Notre Dame on a regular basis, that is enough. He is worrying about what fans want to watch, which is fine, but there is players safety issues as well and competing for Championships. This tougher scheduling puts a lot of pressure on football coaches to keep their jobs as well. Tougher non-conference scheduling and then missing out on bigger bowl games and Championships because you think that's what fans want to see is not the way to go.

    In basketball--you can afford non-conference losses, in football, it will hurt you greatly.

    Bang!

    tVargMan Prime ●

  • T-Pain said...

    There isn't room at the current site to expand to 100,000

    You do realize that you cannot win a logical argument with a maniac don't you?

    signature image

    "As far as the downvotes. It's a gnat biting an lion" -- A member of tRCMB Justice League, taking the internet WAY WAY too seriously.

    Rocket_Play

  • Spartan-Pride said...

    The more important thing is the additional revenue from 15-25k more seats would be HUGE for the athletic program and increase our resources many times over.

    I thought there was a 2020 plan to increase the seating capacity. If we have a few more seasons like these past couple years (I know, asking alot) the demand will skyrocket and we will need more.

    This is all a bit of a dream right now though.

    Well said and +1

    PassTheRock

  • PassTheRock said...

    No Dr Kearney will be the greatest in my mind. He did a great job of bringing in two great coaches in Jud Heathcote and Darryl Rogers and turned around the rest of the program.

    Rogers took a team on probation and won a Big Ten Championship in 1978.

    Jud won National Championship in 1979.

    Unless Hollis increases the seating capacity and keeps up with everyone else and fulfills the vision Biggie Munn had for the football program he will be behind Kearney. Rail paint and a larger scoreboard are not enough.

    I don't mind tough scheduling in basketball, but in football in can hurt you and hurt your brand very quickly. That's why Barry Alvarez of Wisconsin have studied this and why they schedule three puff-n-stuffs to their non-conference slant of the four games. Lloyd Carr also came to the same conclusion. Which is why you see UMass, UConn, BG, EMU, and schools like that on UM's schedule. UM in past years took Virginia Tech, North Carolina, and Fresno State off their schedule and replaced those schools with lesser opponents.

    If Nebraska is now in the conference and you are playing Notre Dame on a regular basis, that is enough. He is worrying about what fans want to watch, which is fine, but there is players safety issues as well and competing for Championships. This tougher scheduling puts a lot of pressure on football coaches to keep their jobs as well. Tougher non-conference scheduling and then missing out on bigger bowl games and Championships because you think that's what fans want to see is not the way to go.

    In basketball--you can afford non-conference losses, in football, it will hurt you greatly.

    Optiking levels of dumb.

    "Losing Benenoch is a mortal blow from which this program can't recover"-T-Pain

    Rogue Leader

  • VargMan said...

    Bang!

    Thank you.

    PassTheRock

  • Rogue Leader said...

    Optiking levels of dumb.

    Never understimate the depth of self-loathing of some MSU "Fans"

    Biggie Munn was hand picked by John Hannah and without Hanah's tireless efforts MSU wouldn't have gotten into the Big Ten.

    GRR Spartan ●

  • Meaning no disrespect to Hollis. . . my vote at this point has to be for Biggie. He created the big time football legacy that has slipped over the years, and now Hollis is trying to get it regrouped. Hollis has done an extraordinary job though with BB and FB and its a wonderful time to be a Spartan sports fan.flex

    whittierspartan

  • PassTheRock said...

    No Dr Kearney will be the greatest in my mind. He did a great job of bringing in two great coaches in Jud Heathcote and Darryl Rogers and turned around the rest of the program.

    Rogers took a team on probation and won a Big Ten Championship in 1978.

    Jud won National Championship in 1979.

    Unless Hollis increases the seating capacity and keeps up with everyone else and fulfills the vision Biggie Munn had for the football program he will be behind Kearney. Rail paint and a larger scoreboard are not enough.

    I don't mind tough scheduling in basketball, but in football in can hurt you and hurt your brand very quickly. That's why Barry Alvarez of Wisconsin have studied this and why they schedule three puff-n-stuffs to their non-conference slant of the four games. Lloyd Carr also came to the same conclusion. Which is why you see UMass, UConn, BG, EMU, and schools like that on UM's schedule. UM in past years took Virginia Tech, North Carolina, and Fresno State off their schedule and replaced those schools with lesser opponents.

    If Nebraska is now in the conference and you are playing Notre Dame on a regular basis, that is enough. He is worrying about what fans want to watch, which is fine, but there is players safety issues as well and competing for Championships. This tougher scheduling puts a lot of pressure on football coaches to keep their jobs as well. Tougher non-conference scheduling and then missing out on bigger bowl games and Championships because you think that's what fans want to see is not the way to go.

    In basketball--you can afford non-conference losses, in football, it will hurt you greatly.

    Yeah...Kearney was great. It was great how he bailed on the program, went to Arizona State, and took Rogers with him.

    Shut the hell up.

    NigelUno

  • NigelUno said...

    Yeah...Kearney was great. It was great how he bailed on the program, went to Arizona State, and took Rogers with him.

    Shut the hell up.

    You don't know the whole story as to why they left for ASU

    TPain151807 ●

  • T-Pain said...

    You don't know the whole story as to why they left for ASU

    I'll hold my breath while you enlighten me. Begin any time.

    NigelUno

  • NigelUno said...

    I'll hold my breath while you enlighten me. Begin any time.

    They got better offers (more $)

    TPain151807 ●

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