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I'm pretty sure that Coach D told Williams that he will accept his commitment only if he gets that fourth star.

I don't think it's an afterthought, MSU's had bad luck that has snowballed. The guys who have retired or been hurt don't go to the show, and recruits want to play for coaches sending guys to the league. MSU ends up losing the injured/retired players, and doesn't get the recruits they want either, when the first guys don't get drafted.

Consider we have not been in contact with Munger, Meadows and slow playing Knevel.

Also, Gall at Moeller would have been a Spartan had we offered. We didn't, so he is a Hurricane. (He OWNED that UM commit DT from MD earlier the year, Gall appears to be a very good player).

I trust our staff's ability to evaluate talent, but I am wondering if they are being too selective with OL. We need bodies All of these guys seem to be very talented.

The ONLY thing I can think of, they are happy in what they have seen in Kieler, Conklin, McGowan (who by all reports looked and played the part) and Higgins, and they can afford to be selective (only top level guys). But after seeing this line perform this season....and parts of the last few seasons...I wonder if our staff needs to re-calibrate their OL recruiting and development strategies.

But after five years of piecing together a make-shift O-line, isn't it worth a try? Even for one recruing season, just shift some recruiting resources to the o-line.

Delton's twitter page said he's going to commit somewhere by the end of this week, and he's excited.

Someone needs to direct the coaching staff to this thread. I don't want the program to suffer by completely ignoring the OL.

For that matter, someone needs to direct the staff to the threads talking about how we "have to" put in Kings, Burbridge, Arnett -- because they "have to be" better than Lippet, Fowler and Mumphery. Because guys on tRCMB... they know.

I can't believe that nobody suggested that roushar scared him off.

Amen to that. Anyone who can't see that the root of the abysmal offensive performance this year resides with the O line.... the underclassmen laden, inexperienced and physically weak offensive line...doesn't have a pulse.

For the love of God, who said we should take plan C and D recruits just because they're OLinemen? That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If we were panicking on the O line, we would tap the JUCO ranks, not grab some kid who can't play for $hit and hope he suddenly grows two inches and his football IQ doubles. There's plenty of dead weight out there to throw on a depth chart. No, OLine recruiting hasn't gone as planned, but they will figure it out.

... and whoever is complaining about Alex Gall: the staff liked him on film until he came to camp and royally sucked, according to bystanders. I'm sorry you seem to be in love with his star ranking, but if the staff doesn't offer even after telling him to come to camp because they really want to see him in person, that's a much better review of the situation than whatever these recruiting sites say.

... and whoever thinks the OLine are the one's responsible for all of our offensive woes clearly know nothing about football, or haven't watched a single game this year.

This ^^^ post is full of passive aggression and reading comprehension fail.