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The Oregon football team was having coordinated post-practice blunt sessions the year they went to the BCS Championship Game. I really don't think you can argue that it's detrimental to the program.

The whole team or just half of the team? And how the hell would you know this?

Well I guess more kids should smoke if this is the case. It.s a good thing, right?

That was my original point...

Drugs/alcohol are only blamed if it leads to issues on and off the field. What if Michael Jordan smoked every day of his life and still was the best player who ever lived? I'm sure most opinions would change on the matter. Mathieu was not smart enough to overcome his smoking hobby, but that doesn't mean others can't. It IS college.

I challenge you to find one post where I say that college athletes "should" smoke weed or even something remotely similar. The only thing I'm advocating for is you shutting the fuck up about how athletes smoking weed is some kind of a big deal. It isn't. A very significant portion of college and professional athletes smoke grass, and to think that coaches are unaware of this is laughably naive.

Maybe it was more than just weed. I hope so, because if it's just weed he faces brutal ridicule in rehab. "Weed? You're in here for weed!!?? You ever suck dick for weed? Boo this man!!!"

You can't fix stupid.

Happens with anything you're dependent on, alcohol, pills, gambling...

Kid should have been kicked off because rules are rules. I personally disagree with the rules as a fellow toker... but, until that changes... you either gotta quit or take your chances. Usually if you're bright you quit and save that bag for sunnier days.

Something that hasn't been discussed here (and I'm sure the "dope every day" advocates will dismiss it), is Leadership. Even in the absence of rules and enforcement of rules, Honey Badger is a high profile player and a senior leader of the team - whether he wants to be a role model or not. If his drug isn't an addictive one (hey, let's not blame the drug - it's harmless and should be legalized) then he's just a selfish douchebag who has no inkling of the responsibility of leadership. To choose his own recreational interests over those of his team because "everybody does it" is the opposite of the example that any coach wants his seniors to exhibit.

The name Honey Badger is perfect for this kid. Honey Badger don't give a shit. He reminds me of that old commercial: "There ain't no "I" in TEAM. But there is a "ME"." We can blame ESPN or Brent Musberger for elevating the kid to deity status, but it's still on the kid and whoever he takes his advice from.

B-jizzer argued that it's more detrimental to the program to dismiss him than for him to smoke daily and play. That is amazingly shortsighted, and is probably exactly what the stoners were saying who passed him the bong one too many times. The program will be better in the long run for it - even if they lose an extra game or two this year for lack of what Mathieu brought to the field.

This will probably end up costing Mathieu very little besides the negative publicity this year. He is insanely talented and will have a great pro career. This is a great chance for him to get his shit together and grow up. If he elects to blaze occasionally in his NFL off-seasons, then I won't hold it against him.

If he makes it a daily habit at the expense of his attention span and lung health, then he will only prove that he's still a selfish primadonna. With his talent, he'll still be effective, but he'll never realize his potential.

double post.

Bump. Apparently LSU gives you 8 freebies before a suspension these days.

How many times do you think Korie Lucious failed a test before Izzo said that's enough? What's the breaking point of programs? Is there a set limit for everyone or do stars get more chances?

And your insulting pot heads. Most of them don't like it when people call the ganga "dope", or so I'v been told.