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Would you pay for your kid to go to scUM for undergrad?

  • MIST said...

    Dumb question. I would supports my future kids in whatever college decision they make save clown school. What athletics is to me is entertainment, and if they chose MSU great, but if they want to go out of state, ivy if they're at that point, or even UM I would support it.

    This 1000x over. UM is a good school and provides kids with some of the best opportunities for many of the professional fields in the state. Denying your child that because of your sports allegiance is something a walmart wolvie would do. My parents are die hard state fans and so am I. They supported me when I did my undergrad at MSU and when I did my masters at UM. They are incredibly proud of both my sisters that went to UM for their accomplishments.

    There is no other right answer to this question. This is a topic that would show up on a walvie forum and I am embarrassed that people are actually debating this.

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    chpueblo22

  • Certainly. Rivalries are what make sports enjoyable but it has no bearing on real life. Junior never had an interest in um but did get offered a full ride to usc (I'm also a UCLA alum) and I would have supported going to usc if it came down to that. I'm actually pretty pissed at UCLA for offering almost nothing in scholarships for out of state students.

    Research is what I am doing when I don’t know what I am doing - Werner von Braun

    Green Genes

  • Using the extra money to buy a pet jaguar is the way to go. Those cats are bad ass!

    Wade Garrett

  • Chilly said...

    Yes I would. It's not really any different then my mom (a UM grad) supporting and helping me pay for MSU.

    Pics of mom?

    "We'll play anyone, anyplace, anytime!" - Tom Izzo

    ToxSpartan

  • So the people that said no would interfere that much with their kids' life because of sports? Lol

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    Count gHostula

  • Serious answer: It depends on my financial security at the time. I will pay for my children to go anywhere they wish as long as I'm able to comfortably. By the time I have a college-age child, tuition at UM will probably be $60,000 a year.

    Big Ten Referee

  • some of you people are insane.

    tGhostofCAllen

  • Anyone who would refuse to pay for their kid to go to UM takes being a fan WAY too seriously.

    daggermouth

  • Yes I would, but only if he either failed out or couldn't' get in to Michigan State!

    This post was edited by rodent on 3/3/2012 at 12:41 PM

    rodent

  • Count gHostula said...

    So the people that said no would interfere that much with their kids' life because of sports? Lol

    +1 for an intelligent gHost post. Those are rare, so you have to acknowledge them when you see one.

    UsedToBeBrad

  • The Doctor said...

    I wouldn't. I would pay for duke and Notre Dame before I would use my own money to send them to um. I would probably just buy a jaguar with the money. Grad school is a little different, but absolutely no to my financial support for um for undergrad.

    Of course I would. Look, I dislike UM as much as the next Spartan grad. The bottom line is that UM is the #1 public university in the world and happens to be in Michigan with in state tuition. They are #2 in R&D expenditure and just about every one of their academic programs are ranked top 10 nationally.

    If either of our kids can get in and have a major that is a good match, then absolutely they can and should go there. Why would you pay $50K+ for a Duke or Notre Dame when you can stay in state for $25K?

    Plus, I like their restaurants.

    Carl_N

  • Carl_N said...

    Of course I would. Look, I dislike UM as much as the next Spartan grad. The bottom line is that UM is the #1 public university in the world and happens to be in Michigan with in state tuition. They are #2 in R&D expenditure and just about every one of their academic programs are ranked top 10 nationally.

    If either of our kids can get in and have a major that is a good match, then absolutely they can and should go there. Why would you pay $50K+ for a Duke or Notre Dame when you can stay in state for $25K?

    Plus, I like their restaurants.

    What if you wouldn't qualify for in-state tuition?

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    The Doctor

  • I work with a TON of attorneys that have gone to both ASU and UA. Some went to UA for undergrad and ASU for law school, vice versa... even the ones that despise either ASU or UA have no problem sending their kids to either school. In fact, I work with one attorney who graduated from ASU in both law school and undergrad and she told me the other day, when I asked her about where her kids want to go to college, she said that she'd prefer that they went to UA so their kids could feel further away from home and enjoy college more. Her and her husband have season tickets to ASU FB and BB.

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    Count gHostula

  • I have 2 children. Neither were ever interested or ever applied and both were recruited for academics.

    Oldest never applied to MSU because the major was Bio-Medical engineering and MSU didn't and still doesn't offer an ABET accredited Bio-med engineering degree. No school in MI was at the time. Now MiTech, Lawrence Tech and umaa have programs. If that was the case Mi Tech would have been the choice.

    Youngest has been a Spartan for life. Have pictures of the first day of kindergarten getting off the bus with the MSU backpack. At MSU, having a great time as a freshman. Football, Slapshot and Izzone. couldn't be happier.

    If you have to convince your child not to attend umaa undergrad then you just didn't always spit after the mention of umaa in their presence.

    This post was edited by GRR Spartan on 3/3/2012 at 1:00 PM

    GRR Spartan

  • Count gHostula said...

    I work with a TON of attorneys that have gone to both ASU and UA. Some went to UA for undergrad and ASU for law school, vice versa... even the ones that despise either ASU or UA have no problem sending their kids to either school. In fact, I work with one attorney who graduated from ASU in both law school and undergrad and she told me the other day, when I asked her about where her kids want to go to college, she said that she'd prefer that they went to UA so their kids could feel further away from home and enjoy college more. Her and her husband have season tickets to ASU FB and BB.

    ASU and UA have a cute little rivalry, but its nowhere close to the MSU/UM hatred.

    hoke- to alter or manipulate so as to give a deceptively or superficially improved quality or value.

    The Doctor

  • The Doctor said...

    ASU and UA have a cute little rivalry, but its nowhere close to the MSU/UM hatred.

    This may be more idiotic than your original post. UA and ASU despise each other - I work with people who went to both schools and believe me, there's real hatred. The only real difference is that neither school has really been that good in football or basketball over the past few years, with the exception of when Harden played for ASU. Just because the schools respective sports programs aren't that good it doesn't mean the hatred is minimized.

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    Count gHostula

  • My hatred for sports doesn't carry over into education, so I don't care where people go. I know a lot of cool people at UM that don't give two shits about sports. I think UM may be one of those rare schools where the people who didn't go there are more passionate about the sports than the people who do. My one buddy didn't even know when MSU was playing UM this past season, he's never stepped foot in the outhouse and he's a senior.

    NGE

  • Count gHostula said...

    This may be more idiotic than your original post. UA and ASU despise each other - I work with people who went to both schools and believe me, there's real hatred. The only real difference is that neither school has really been that good in football or basketball over the past few years, with the exception of when Harden played for ASU. Just because the schools respective sports programs aren't that good it doesn't mean the hatred is minimized.

    You are a great Spartan, but the fact that you are not from Michigan might be why you don't have a similar hatred for um. My original premise should be taken as tongue and cheek. I don't think there is a father on here who wouldn't pay for their kids to go to any college that they could realistically afford. The message is still the same though. I would be disappointed if my child chose um over let's say northwestern or Stanford due to my general disgust for anything to do with that university.

    hoke- to alter or manipulate so as to give a deceptively or superficially improved quality or value.

    The Doctor

  • The Doctor said...

    You are a great Spartan, but the fact that you are not from Michigan might be why you don't have a similar hatred for um. My original premise should be taken as tongue and cheek. I don't think there is a father on here who wouldn't pay for their kids to go to any college that they could realistically afford. The message is still the same though. I would be disappointed if my child chose um over let's say northwestern or Stanford due to my general disgust for anything to do with that university.

    Why would you even care? I hate Notre Dame much more than I hate Michigan but if my kid wanted to go there and I could afford to pay for it then that's where they're going. I know that my kids will grow up Spartans and will love Michigan State. If they want to go to UM then so be it - but I can guarantee you that - if we have sons - they'll be walking around Michigan wearing Spartan gear, not UM gear. You're always bringing up something involving Michigan. I think you need to relax a little and let whatever it is that's bothering you go...

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    Count gHostula

  • The Doctor said...

    You are a great Spartan, but the fact that you are not from Michigan might be why you don't have a similar hatred for um. My original premise should be taken as tongue and cheek. I don't think there is a father on here who wouldn't pay for their kids to go to any college that they could realistically afford. The message is still the same though. I would be disappointed if my child chose um over let's say northwestern or Stanford due to my general disgust for anything to do with that university.

    And thinking about it for a second or two more I think I'd be most pissed if my kids wanted to go to some small liberal arts college with no sports than Michigan, at least there they'd get the complete college experience, even if they ended up loving wolverines.

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    Count gHostula

  • Count gHostula said...

    Why would you even care? I hate Notre Dame much more than I hate Michigan but if my kid wanted to go there and I could afford to pay for it then that's where they're going. I know that my kids will grow up Spartans and will love Michigan State. If they want to go to UM then so be it - but I can guarantee you that - if we have sons - they'll be walking around Michigan wearing Spartan gear, not UM gear. You're always bringing up something involving Michigan. I think you need to relax a little and let whatever it is that's bothering you go...

    I just thought it would be a fun topic. Sorry if it upset you.

    hoke- to alter or manipulate so as to give a deceptively or superficially improved quality or value.

    The Doctor

  • If I can afford out of state tuition when my now 6 month old is ready for college I'm going to be fucking pumped. If its UM, that means I did pretty well.

    PortlandSpartan

  • The Doctor said...

    You are a great Spartan, but the fact that you are not from Michigan might be why you don't have a similar hatred for um. My original premise should be taken as tongue and cheek. I don't think there is a father on here who wouldn't pay for their kids to go to any college that they could realistically afford. The message is still the same though. I would be disappointed if my child chose um over let's say northwestern or Stanford due to my general disgust for anything to do with that university.

    I'm from Michigan. I've gone to MSU basketball games since I was like 5 and I've always hated UM for their athletics and their general demeanor. This takes it to a bitter level though. You would be disappointed that your child chose to get a similar education with similar opportunities for half the price and staying in the state that, as a Michigan resident, I know and love just because you despise their athletics department. Jesus, man.

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    chpueblo22

  • Count gHostula said...

    Why would you even care? I hate Notre Dame much more than I hate Michigan but if my kid wanted to go there and I could afford to pay for it then that's where they're going. I know that my kids will grow up Spartans and will love Michigan State. If they want to go to UM then so be it - but I can guarantee you that - if we have sons - they'll be walking around Michigan wearing Spartan gear, not UM gear. You're always bringing up something involving Michigan. I think you need to relax a little and let whatever it is that's bothering you go...

    I agree with gHost on ND. Had either child gotten scholarships to make ND affordable I would have encouraged them. ND's networking for employment after graduation is amazing. An ND undergrad degree is a great way to get attention for grad school. They are a very loyal bunch and an ND education is very good.

    No matter what ummies and scummers tell you (scummers are the hat and tee shirt crowd who can't spell academics and umaa fans who went to places like Hope, Calvin,GVSU, CMU, WMU, etc) the academics at Northwestern are the class of the Big Ten.

    This post was edited by GRR Spartan on 3/3/2012 at 1:30 PM

    GRR Spartan

  • IMO, undergrad is undergrad no matter where you go. I realize Ivy league and some really shitty schools aren't comparable, but state schools aren't much different. Everyone has to take some math, writing, humanities, etc. It's all the same.

    Harry Callahan