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LuciousAllen said...
The current literature? That current literature you linked is from 2001, and all it says is it doesn't do any more, or any less than codeine.
But since we're gonna start throwing studies and research out there, here goes... http://ccrmg.org/journal/05aut/chrons.html
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RaptorCaptor said...
I really don't agree about most providers prescribing antibiotics for the common cold, and have worked with no practitioners who would prescribe them if that was their suspected diagnosis.
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Optiking said...
I chose not to link it for a reason. I wanted to imagine and visualize those puffing away and high trying to frantically google search it through red eyes. Just my sense of humor.
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Optiking said...
Outside of pain issues, marijuana, like many drugs, has damaging effects to the body, including the liver, lowering testosterone, and damaging brain cells. It is a trade off to deal with pain.
If you have cancer and what to deal with pain, fine, have at it. I have seen it prescribed to 20-year olds for no solid reasons. Frankly, i like my liver, i like sex, and i like brain cells.
People are who they are. DRUGS doesn't change that. (fixed it)
Now what do you say?
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RaptorCaptor said...
Look while your anecdotal experience is great, and I'm glad it has helped you. The current literature shows at most a marginal efficacy for cannaboids in treating most pain. Here is a recent meta-analysis I found in a quick pubmed search: http://www.bmj.com/content/323/7303/13.abstract
Conclusion: Cannabinoids are no more effective than codeine in controlling pain and have depressant effects on the central nervous system that limit their use.
This is largely the conclusion I have read on almost all trials comparing marijuana to opiates as well as comparing marijuana to placebo. Physicians are obligated in this era to use evidence based medicine and while a whole lot of people like marijuana the evidence is just not there to justify using it in lue of other options currently available.
Additionally, because you went to drugs.com or another site like emedicine and pulled up a list of side effects of oxycodone (which has been extensively researched in large Phase 3 trials and has been on the market for a long time, and thus all side effects are required to be reported) does not mean marijuana does not have significant side effects in the medical context. It means that marijuana has not been studied in the way other pharmaceuticals have been.
I personally do not care about legalization one way or another, but when patient's come in asking for marijuana for their pain it is difficult to justify prescribing them marijuana.
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Johnny Costanza said...
Well then how about you post it for those of us that would actually like the information because they are hoping that something will help with the pain of migraine headaches or something else. Jesus H Christ, I've never had any real problems with you, but you really are a huge dick.
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Please discuss everything with your doctor first. Testosterone - Marijuana
Marijuana and low testosterone: the two go hand in hand. Yes, marijuana is a "herb". Yes, marijuana is a "natural plant". However, none of that is going to change the fact that marijuana is a one way ticket to low testosterone, erectile dysfunction and fertility problems. The political debate regarding marijuana may be interesting, but the research shows it to be debilitating and potentially deadly long term.
Marijuana assaults your precious hormones in almost every negative way possible, especially testosterone. One study after another has shown that cannabis lowers testosterone. For example one research team found that "a reanalysis of existing data established that testosterone levels are depressed both after smoking one marijuana cigarette and after intravenous infusion of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, a pharmacologically active component of marijuana". [1] The same study concluded that it would take at least 24 hours for testosterone levels to normalize after marijuana use. (NOTE: It's not just the smoke - an IV will do it.)
Another study found that not only was testosterone decreased after short term marijuana use, but leutenizing and follicle stimulating hormone were lowered as well. [2] And just to add to the endocrinological misery, the arch-villain and stress hormone cortisol was raised as well in this same study. There are also studies in animals and humans that strongly indicate that marijuana blunts growth hormone response as well.
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But that's where the good news ends: animal studies show that marijuana use shrinks the testes. [5] So, if you're not happy with lowered testosterone, infertility and elevated cortisol, you can sit around enjoying the fact that you've got a little more air flow through your boxers.
You should also know that there are many reports that chronic marijuana use leads to gynecomastia, i.e. "bitch tits" or "male boobs" due to its abundant amounts of phytoestrogens. One journal writer pointed out that "given the effects of marijuana on the HPG axis in males and the possibility that noncannabinoid components of marijuana smoke have affinity to the estrogen receptor, an association with gynecomastia is plausible but has not been convincingly demonstrated". [4] Remember that estrogen fights against testeosterone in the body as well.
Marijuana has also recently been flagged as particularly dangerous for young people because it decreases seratonin and increases norepineprine. While these are not sex hormones like testosterone, these can alter mood negatively and, through prolonged use, may permanently alter anxiety levels and reaction to stress. [7] Again, the researchers are suggesting this may have long term, possibly lifetime anxiety and mood repercussions. I would also add that any increase in stress will also likely lower testosterone as well.
So we ask the question, "Could someone please explain again why anyone in their right mind would smoke marijuana?" The only thing we can think of is the extra hydrogen cyanide. That's right - marijuana tobaco is much higher in hydrogen cyanide - probably five times higher - than cigarette tobacco. Maybe that partially explains why habitual pot smoking is so hard on the lungs and why cannabis use has also now been linked to the most aggressive form of testicular cancer. The research: multi-supplement cocktails can turbocharge erectile strength.
I am sure most of you have the good sense to stay away from the wacky weed and have heard every excuse in the book from its adherents. I have heard one guy claim it helps him stay cut because it suppresses appetite, not realizing that it is whacking his precious muscle-building testosterone behind the scenes. To those sorts of arguments, one can only give them a look that relays the idea that sticking burning leaves in your mouth and inhaling is never going to be a smart idea! (Other toxic items that we consume include Excitotoxins, Pesticides and Additives Such as BPA.)
Not to make the bad news even worse, but there is also considerable reported evidence of erectile dysfunction among chronic marijuana users. This is undoubtedly partially due to the lowered testosterone. However, the other reason was discovered by one study that showed marijauna effected Nitric Oxide and summarized by saying, "We conclude that early endothelial damage may be induced by chronic cannabis use (and endocannabinoid system activation". [3] In other words, the happy weed may not make you so happy long term: it may take your sex life with it.
The tragedy with marijuana is that many cultures and youth are embracing marijuana as more "natural", but this is far from being the case. One recent study found that marijuana induces just as much cell toxicity and DNA damage as cigarette smoke. [6] The researchers were very clear that marijuana displayed just as much cancer causing power as the cigarette smoke: "In addition, when corrected for total particulate matter yield, little difference was observed in the mutagenic activity of samples smoked under the extreme vs the standard regime for both tobacco and marijuana condensates".
I went through the "Make Love Not War" era and pot was front and center stage. Of course, the irony is that there's a lot of guys walking around now not able to "make love", not realizing that the lowered testosterone and decreased nitric oxide of long term marijuana use during that time is behind it all.
NOTE: Researchers have recently found that the THC in marijuana actually effects sperm negatively and literally makes them high. The sperm get "wired" and then literally burn out making it hard for them to achieve their ultimate destination. This may yet another reason why marijuana is tied to reports of infertility (along with the decreased testosterone, LH and FSH of course). My 5 Top Erectile Supplements w/ solid research.
REFERENCES:
1) J Theor Biol, 1983 Oct 21, 104(4):685-692, "Effects of marijuana on testosterone in male subjects"
2) Pharmacol Biochem Behav, 1986 Jun, 24(6):1749-54, "Acute effects of smoking marijuana on hormones, subjective effects and performance in male human subjects"
3) Intl J of Impotence Research, 2008, 20(6):566-573, "Early endothelial dysfunction as a marker of vasculogenic erectile dysfunction in young habitual cannabis users"
4) Endocrine Effects of Marijuana, Todd T. Brown, MD, and Adrian S. Dobs, MD, MHS
5) Eur J Pharmacol,1974, 26:111-114; Endokrinologie, 1977, 69:299-305
6) Chem. Res. Toxicol., Article Publication Date (Web): July 17, 2009, "The Genotoxicity of Mainstream and Sidestream Marijuana and Tobacco Smoke Condensates", Rebecca M. Maertens, et. al.
7) Neurobiology of Disease, Dec 2009," Chronic exposure to cannabinoids during adolescence but not during adulthood impairs emotional behaviour and monoaminergic neurotransmission"
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This is the mentality that puts marijuana in a bad light, and it is mostly the mentality of idiots with no facts to back anything up. And, just for your own knowledge, not everyone gets red eyes from smoking pot. Keep fishin.

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