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JMSparty08 said...
There have been many instances where police agencies have tried to infiltrate NAMBLA with undercover cops and make arrests or see how deep it goes/who are the members. Lots of those agents have ended up dead. That gives rise to the suspicion that cover is being blown for some of these agents and that someone higher up in the police force, politician, etc. is blowing that cover.
There are actually politicians that advocate for some of NAMBLA's policies (abolishing age of consent laws). In testimony before the US Senate, NAMBLA was exonerated from any criminal activities and the senate concluded that "It is the pedophile with no organized affiliations who is the real threat of children."
That's the U.S. SENATE saying that NAMBLA is basically ok in their book.
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JMSparty08 said...
There have been many instances where police agencies have tried to infiltrate NAMBLA with undercover cops and make arrests or see how deep it goes/who are the members. Lots of those agents have ended up dead. That gives rise to the suspicion that cover is being blown for some of these agents and that someone higher up in the police force, politician, etc. is blowing that cover.
There are actually politicians that advocate for some of NAMBLA's policies (abolishing age of consent laws). In testimony before the US Senate, NAMBLA was exonerated from any criminal activities and the senate concluded that "It is the pedophile with no organized affiliations who is the real threat of children."
That's the U.S. SENATE saying that NAMBLA is basically ok in their book.
I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.
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Jud Owns Digger said...
Spanier and Schultz are a big part of it. As previously mentioned, they knew about this and decided not to go to the police. Words cannot describe how moronic and dangerous that is. It goes beyond negligence. It is recklessness.
From a victim standpoint, it appears Sandusky used threats to keep them quiet. Furthermore, many victims simply are too embarrassed, scared, hurt and/or depressed to come forward. To them, the emotional trauma for them is bad enough without their stories going public.
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JMSparty08 said...
Google "NAMBLA and U.S. Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations."
It took place in the mid 1980s, 1986 I believe. There's also a book, "The Last Undercover: The True Story of an FBI Agent's Dangerous Dance With Evil", about a former FBI agent who infiltrated the organization.
A quick google search of NAMBLA will reveal a ton of legal cases, controversies, etc. It's a big organization that's got some pretty significant funding. That money has to come from somewhere.
I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.
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Jud Owns Digger said...
Spanier and Schultz are a big part of it. As previously mentioned, they knew about this and decided not to go to the police. Words cannot describe how moronic and dangerous that is. It goes beyond negligence. It is recklessness.
From a victim standpoint, it appears Sandusky used threats to keep them quiet. Furthermore, many victims simply are too embarrassed, scared, hurt and/or depressed to come forward. To them, the emotional trauma for them is bad enough without their stories going public.
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by JMSparty08 on 6/12/2012 at 12:27 PM
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Fletch said...
From ABC:
His testimony also described how Sandusky's wife, Dottie, once walked in on them during sex. He was sharing a hotel room with Sandusky and his wife on a trip to an away football game in which Sandusky tried to force him to have oral sex in the bathroom.
"He came in and started to push down on me to motion me to go down there. I resisted but didn't say anything but was hesitant, and he said, 'You don't want to go back to Snow Shoe do you?'" Victim 4 said, referring to the town where he was living at the time. "He was trying to get me to give him oral sex and threatening me if not."
"What happened then is literally 10 seconds later, the bathroom door is not shut completely... and the other door is open, and I heard Dottie say 'Jerry' and he ran out. And she said, 'What are you doing in there?'" Victim 4 testified.
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JMSparty08 said...
Google "NAMBLA and U.S. Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations."
It took place in the mid 1980s, 1986 I believe. There's also a book, "The Last Undercover: The True Story of an FBI Agent's Dangerous Dance With Evil", about a former FBI agent who infiltrated the organization.
A quick google search of NAMBLA will reveal a ton of legal cases, controversies, etc. It's a big organization that's got some pretty significant funding. That money has to come from somewhere.
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Jud Owns Digger said...
Spanier and Schultz are a big part of it. As previously mentioned, they knew about this and decided not to go to the police. Words cannot describe how moronic and dangerous that is. It goes beyond negligence. It is recklessness.
From a victim standpoint, it appears Sandusky used threats to keep them quiet. Furthermore, many victims simply are too embarrassed, scared, hurt and/or depressed to come forward. To them, the emotional trauma for them is bad enough without their stories going public.
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LogicalBuck said...
I googled it and didn't find anything to support your claims, other than that book, written by Bob Hamer, does exist. What I found is that NAMBLA was never a big organization with significant funding, that infiltration by authorities failed to produce any serious criminal indictments in terms of a massive conspiracy (Hamer's infiltration reportedly resulted in 8 convictions for "travel with intent to have sex with minor boys"), and I found nothing relating to mysterious deaths of undercover agents investigating the organization.
I'll provide a link for the book. It's existence is the only thing you said that I can verify as true.
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