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Would like to lock this kid up in the next couple of weeks, just get the feeling he will blow up big time during his football season. Southern schools may come calling, CBD any chance he comes up with him mom for a practice and we lock him up?
Yea, he won't be needed until his RS Soph year. Say he comes in at 240 and adds 15 pounds/year. You're looking at a 6'6 270 pound DE as a RS Soph.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
I think that may be a little premature, but I agree that this guy is clearly talented. Other than OT, I think DE is the biggest need now. While MSU has numbers there, I think it's important they continue to fill the pipeline with talented ends and Cooper fits the bill. MSU missed on some guys they really wanted in 2012, so it'll be big if/when Cooper goes Green.
Haven't heard anything definite on when Cooper will actually visit MSU. Could be an unofficial yet this summer or an official at the beginning of the season.
Indications are that he will commit to MSU when he does visit. He really likes Coach D, Coach Narduzzi and Coach Gill.
FWIW, the moves of Lyles, Thomas and possibly Tai Jones to DE mitigates that need for a lot of DEs in this class. I think the staff definitely take 1 DE, and then the best DE or DT left on the board.
Cooper is very high on MSU's list.
I disagree. I think the ability to bring in at least one talented DE each class is important to maintain a successful D. I'm not saying MSU is in trouble, per se, but they did miss out on Pittman and Winston last year, which certainly wasn't a positive.
Cooper seems to have a high ceiling. I think MSU needs to continually bring these guys in every year.
Looking at recent pictures there's no way he's 295. If he is, there must not be an ounce of fat on him.
@core6athletes: 2013 DE Demetrius Cooper could be a 4* when the new Rivals.com rankings come out.
@core6athletes: He (Cooper) is a freak. Looking like MSU will land him
Uhh, I just said MSU will take at least 1 DE, meaning Cooper to fill that role.
I see what you did there...
Sounded like you were saying DE wasn't a need.
"...mitigates the need of a LOT of DE's in this class..."
Is there any film on this guy?
where are these pics of LawrenceThomas at? The last ones I saw he had a little extra weight (nothing too bad or uncommon for a DL but there was some "relaxed muscle" on his frame haha). Thomas tweeted a few days ago that he is over 290 lbs, so the weight is probably legit.
I don't see any great need for another DE in this class, if Cooper commits. I'd like to see Cooper, another DT (Peko), and three OTs :) - then a kid like Delton Williams if there is still scholarship room.
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Naw, just saying that MSU doesn't have to take more than 1. Initially we were thinking 2 DEs/1 DT in this class or so. Now it looks like 1 DE/2 DTs, because of the moves of LT and Lyles, if not Jones.
I think Cooper can/should be that 1 DE. 6'5- 6'6 and the frame to be a solid 265-270.
Any chance of getting some video of this kid?
Just because they may play DE in HS or project out as a DE with some recruiting service, doesn't mean he will end up there. In fact all these recruits are only 17 and still growing. When they get on campus with the training table and the weight room, who knows where some of these guys will end up playing. Some may even become OL's Heck Hoover grew into a DT from a DE and France went from DL to OL.
Just give me quick and fast Athletes with decent size and where they end up playing will sort itself out.
I'm really curious what would have happened had Hoover been moved to OT early in his career - ah, what might haven been. I agree with you - those big bodied athletes are great; add a bunch and see what position they grow into.
I've seen video from a rival recruiting website, so I don't think I should post it here. From Sound Mind Sound Body camp in Detroit earlier this summer. On video #1 Cooper is misidentified as someone else. I was a little confused, because he didn't look like the guy I'd seen before. But some other guy stood out as the best in the group, kinda built along the lines of Cooper. As soon as I saw vid#2 it was apparent that the participants had been misidentified on vid#1 and Cooper was indeed the standout. Demetrius looked very good against David Dawson(4* 0.9426 UM OG commit), Logan Tuley-Tillman(4* 0.9380 UM OT commit), and Dennis Finley(3* 0.8485 OT uncommitted). Very explosive and quick, uses hands well, great flexibilty, balance and length, too. Most definitely want.
If I should post link here, someone let me know and I will.
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saw film of him from Sound Mind, Sound Body - I assume that's what you are talking about? Cooper's first step is killer - he was definitely way too explosive for Dawson and Finley (I didn't see LTT - but LTT hasn't been able to block anyone all summer, so that's not a shocker). Looks like 6'5" is probably pretty legit. Really good looking prospect - definitely fits the mold that MSU seems to like.
Sounds encouraging. I read one report that Cooper is only 203 lbs right now. I know they go one on one in some of these camps but he is going to need some weight to stand up to B1G OLs where there is downhill running games coming at you. He is going to have to get to at least 250 to be an every down DE otherwise he might be a 3rd down pass rushing specialist. I am thinking it will take 2 years of development if the 203lbs is correct. Maybe we should be looking at this guy as a OLB. Tall and rangy with ability to cover TEs and backs in addition to blitzing. A bigger version of Allen maybe.
He might be - he definitely looked skinny; I'd say there's no chance he's 220. Still, what he weighs now doesn't matter - it's what he weighs in 3 years that matters.
At 6'5+, 220 can still look pretty skinny easily.
If it's free content, you should definitely post the link. Videos are fair game.
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