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Finley's Cass Tech teammate OG Dominick Hamilton who just de-committed from Akron, will also be visiting MSU on Aug. 1st.
Josh Helmholdt @JoshHelmholdt
#Purdue lands Florida 3star DB http://bit.ly/T2mAUd Expect 2nd piece of B1G news later in the week, no longer today. And it is unrelated
Not sure what 'unrelated' means. Is it unrelated to recruiting or to Purdue?
Unrelated to Purdue. He said both have to do with recruiting and they arent related to each other
I think the staff needs to close on this kid today, especially after OSU took another OL last weekend, the timing is right to get him closed up. Do not let him get back to Wisconsin. It would also seem that whoever the Badgers get out of either Finley or Knevel, we will get the other is my guess. Hope we just close on both of those kids this week though!
Recruiting has changed dramatically in the last 10 years due to the emergence of social media, recruiting services, elite camps and just technology in general. Everything has moved up and staffs are able to evaluate kids more thoroughly much earlier than in the past. Texas started the trend of locking up classes early and hosting big recruiting events in Feb. Now you see most of the top teir schools having their classes 3/4 full before fall camp starts. This has changed some of the dynamics of the summer camp circiut. If a kid has committed they are using the camps to recruit other kids and hone their skills. These kids may not work as hard in the camp as those who are still trying to land offers and up their stock. With most of the top tier kids committed, especially in the midwest, it puts the 2nd tier uncommitted kids in the limelight. Recruits like D Cooper and D Finley all of the sudden have become some of the best talents left on the board. Almost all 4 star recruits are committed now. Schools like OSU and ND are now turning their focus to these kids as well looking to round out their classes. Where recruiting is tough is for schools like IU or Minny who have a hard time landing those premier prospects. IU missed out on all 6 rivals 4 star recruits in their own state but they must still pursue these kids. Now is the time that their recruiting will really pick up as most of the schools above them in the pecking order have cherry picked the best talents. There will be diamonds in the rough who have slid through the cracks or are late developers. That is the downside of filling your class too soon. With 2013 classes pretty full at many schools there is a lot of focus on the 2014 class all ready.
My eyes hurt after trying to reading this.
It's a double-edged sword. Using your example, Texas - they wound up with a lot of guys who were top 250, top 100 players who wouldn't start on MSU's roster because the Longhorns filled up their class without the year and a half or so of evaluation that all schools used to do. Kids who look good in their junior year may not develop as hoped for in their senior year, and they may be surpassed by other players who blow up later on in the process.
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See: Dennis Finley being obviously better than top 250 Logan Tulley-Tillman and on par with David Dawson; Demetrius Cooper blowing away multiple top 250 OL at camps; so on and so forth. I think we'll see a lot more volatility in terms of big names being busts and underrated guys becoming stars. It happens all the time as it is, but the acceleration of the recruiting process may make it even more common. I actually think the bottom-tier players may have more luck finding some hidden studs if their evaluation skills are up to par.
haha thanks. LTT is a mid 3 star at best IMO and Finley is a 4 star I think the ratings at the end will show this.
That's how it should be, but the LTT commit to scUM will mean his rating is likely secure. Fine be me; when our DL embarrasses him, people will see how overrated he was.
Returning for another visit on Saturday with Webb, and Drake. All from CT.
Allen Trieu @AllenTrieu
Cass Tech '13 OT Dennis Finely, '14 CB Damon Webb and '14 LB Deon Drake visiting #MichiganState on Saturday.
This post was edited by FriedWolverine 23 months ago
I could have been a Rhodes Scholar, except for my grades. -Duffy Daugherty
If he ever sees the field at UM. They have something like 9 or 10 OL commits in the 12 and 13 classes. Probably a little early to call him a bust following his Jr in HS but he will have fierce competition when he gets to scUM. I dont think you really truely know what you have with some of these kids until you get them in to your program and put the pads on. Finley is blowing up now but there are very few good OL prospects in the midwest left uncommitted right now and he looks like the cream of the crop of the uncommitted. Its kind of like the 7th or 8th round of your fantasy draft and you are looking for good values.
I love the blatant homerism in this thread. Keep fighting the good fight guys.
Hypothetical question: If Finley picks another school is he still a 4 star talent?
Possibly to commit?
I am not a doctor
We just offered Drake today and he and Webb are 2014 recruits.
how about this - I EXPECT Finley to go elsewhere and fully believe he's a four star talent. OSU, WIsky, and MSU all offered Finley within 24 hours of his SMSB performance. That my friend, IS a four star player. Period. No discussion necessary. I'm sure FInley will have a great career at OSU or WIsky (or UM, which I still think he may end up at).
I think Finley is a good player. I just enjoyed the homerism at the expense of LTT.
You must not really follow B1G recruiting because UM hasn't offered and on top of that they don't have room. I guess that can all change with decommitments.
I know. I was referring to Finley.
I follow it closely - which is why I said I wouldn't be surprised to see him at UM. Finley is a legit 6'6" and is proving to be an elite OT - better than a few of the guys already committed to UM, with potentially a higher ceiling. Will UM really let a Cass TEch kid, that is better than some of their commits, head to a rival? I have a hard time believing it. We'll see.
What "blatant homerism" are you talking about? People saying Finley is better than LTT? Look at the film and try to tell me you don't agree. LTT is sloppy and dirty with his blocks. Finley looks raw, but he's been holding his own against a lot of highly-touted defensive linemen in camps without having to false start and hold on every snap. He's 6'7" 280 lbs and he doesn't look overly fat. He has an OSU offer. He's a four-star talent, period.
overly fat? Finley's ripped up man, He isn't even a little fat. And LTT is a major project - even UM fans don't claim otherwise. Fox and Bosch both appear to be 6'4"-6'5", while Finley is a legit 6'6". Finley is a perfect example of the risk of filling up a recruiting class early (as Jamal Lyles was last year). Sometimes you miss out on some outstanding options. Though I'm not convinced UM will miss out on FInley...
Both look raw to me, but I'm no expert like others here.
are you kidding me? You failed to notice that LTT has gotten abused at every single camp he's been to? That he has looked incredibly out of shape, along with failing to block even DII prospects? While all Finley has done is earn three offers from the three best teams in the Big Ten in one day? Not knocking you (and none of us are experts) but you really might want to look in the mirror before accusing others of homerism,
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I hope you are wrong about him ending up at UM.
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