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I'm going to get a little more in-depth on this but first here is how I would rank the classes as they came in without knowing the final results of how much each class would contribute :
Now, you can't really rank a class until at least 3 or 4 years after the fact. You have to take into account how the members of each class contributed to the program. The Rather Hall fiasco had an impact on some of these classes final rankings with players being dismissed from the team or transferring out. As far as contributors in a class, I'll use all players in a class who actually had some form of PT even on ST's even though some didn't finish their careers at MSU. Walk-ons aren't included, only players who initially came to MSU on scholarships.
1. 2007 - Coach D's 1st recruiting class @ MSU was basically low-balled by the recruiting services but ended up with some all-time Spartan greats :
Kirk Cousins, B. J. Cunningham, Greg Jones, Mark Dell, Chris L. Rucker, Aaron Bates, Joel Foreman, Kevin Pickelman, Garrett Celek, Oren Wilson, Jared McGaha, Antonio Jeremiah, Ashton Leggett, Chris D. Rucker, Andre Anderson, Ishmyl Johnson, David Duran, Arthur Ray
2. 2009 :
Edwin Baker, Larry Caper, Dion Sims, Andrew Maxwell, Chris Norman, Denicos Allen, Micajah Reynolds, Jairus Jones, Blake Treadwell, Bennie Fowler, Denzell Drone, Tyquan Hammock, Kevin Muma, Dan France, Nate Klatt, Jeremy Gainer, Derek Hoebing, Henry Conway, Donald Spencer
3. 2010 - This class is almost in a dead heat with the 2009 class and could move ahead of the 2009 class with some big years from some of it's players :
Le'Veon Bell, William Gholston, Darqueze Dennard, Isaiah Lewis, A. R. White, Marcus Rush, Travis Jackson, Skyler Burkland, Max Bullough, Kurtis Drummond, Keith Mumphery, Mike Sadler, Tony Lippett, Nick Hill, Jeremy Langford, Niko Palazeti, Mylan Hicks, Michael Dennis
4. 2008 :
Jerel Worthy, Keshawn Martin, Johnny Adams, Trenton Robinson, Chris McDonald, Steve Gardiner, Tyler Hoover, Ethan Ruhland, Corey Freeman, John Deyo, Zach Heuter, Glenn Winston, Caulton Ray, Drew Stevens, Fred Smith, David Rolf, Cameron Jude
5. 2011 - This class has a chance to move up since most of them will just be RS Sophs in 2013 :
Fou Fonoti, Taiwan Jones, R. J. Williamson, Lawrence Thomas, Shilique Calhoun, Jack Allen, Brandon Clemons, Donavon Clark, Connor Cook, Darien Harris, Ed Davis, Arjen Colquhoun, Trae Waynes, Paul Lang, Andre Sims, Damon Knox, Joel Heath, Mark Scarpinato
6. 2012 - Incomplete. Only 3 red-shirts were burned in this class :
Aaron Burbridge, Taybor Pepper, McGarrett Kings
First off, putting '09 ahead of of '10 is crazy. We got some quality starters out of '09 but the bust rate was way, way higher than 2010.
Second, this is impossible. Clearly our 2009 class, with elite players like Natt Klatt and David Barrent, was our best ever class in retrospective.
The extremely stupid article about star rankings everyone's been posting recently
Agreed. Even the 2008 class will have more NFL players than 2009 class.
This post was edited by spartan80 14 months ago
2010 is the best class MD has signed, IMHO, in terms of # of impact players that started early in their career.
2007 produced some quality guys, but getting 5 or 6 good players out of a class of 22 or 23 is not great. There were a ton of busts that year; pretty much the entire 2nd half of that list were guys that either transferred or barely played (like McGaha).
2009 has been a pretty blah class.
2011 - 2013 haven't been on campus long enough to evaluate.
I'd say . . .
2007/2008 (dead heat, each produced 5-6 great players and almost 0 depth. I think 2007 produced 1 more good player than '08)
2009 (no standouts outside of Baker's 1 big year; Norman and Denicos are the 2nd best players in this class. Multiple members of this class have been passed by the 2010 guys and even some of the '11 players).
This post was edited by MalibuMan 14 months ago
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
2010 > 2009 easily imo, and it could end up being a longshot. Some 2010 guys have 2 years to go still.
22 commitments (per Rivals)
ATH Kurtis Drummond - Starting FS
ATH Jeremy Langford - Some contribution at CB and RB
ATH Tony Lippett - Started at both CB and WR in significant roles
ATH Keith Mumphery - Starting WR
DB Darqueze Dennard - Starting CB
DB Mylan Hicks - Some contribution at S and CB
DB Isaiah Lewis - Starting SS
DE Taylor Calero - No contribution
DE William Gholston - Starting DE
DE Marcus Rush - Starting DE
DT Anthony Rashad White - Starting NT
K Mike Sadler - Starting P
LB Max Bullough - Starting MLB
LB Justin Wilson - Never made it to campus
OL Michael Dennis - Some contribution at OT and TE
OL Travis Jackson - Starting C
OL Skyler Burkland - Starting RT
QB Joe Boisture - No contribution, retired due to injury
RB Le'Veon Bell - Starting RB
RB Nick Hill - Starting KR, some contribution at PR and RB
FB Niko Palazeti - Starting FB
So basically the only people who did NOT pan out from this class: Boisture, Wilson, Calero
19/22 success rate (86.3%)
If you only count starters: 15/22 (68%). And this is still a relatively young class.
Yea, standard rule of thumb is 1/3 of a class becomes starters, 1/3 provides depth/contributes late in their career and 1/3 washes out/does nothing. MSU's 2010 class pretty much blew away expectations.
2007 class had 5 NFL draft picks and Celek was a RFA who made a roster. That's solid.
Not to mention Foreman and Pickleman.
Overall talent and impact, 2010 hands down.
"Stats are for Losers." - Pat "Nardawg" Narduzzi
Problem with 2007 is that's ALL it had. There were almost no "depth" guys.
2011 is making a decent contribution early too:
Taiwan Jones - starting LB
RJ Williamson - nickel S
Lawrence Thomas - starting FB
Trae Waynes - started at CB for bowl game
Shilique Calhoun - Backup DE
Jack Allen - starting OG/C
Paul Lang - backup TE
Fou Fonoti - starting OT
Andre Sims - starting PR
Donovon Clark - backup OT/OG
Connor Cook - backup QB
CBD, if you go by pure service rankings/"stars" I agree 2009 class was the most decorated.
However I think most people in this thread make the argument that we are looking at the classes in retrospect.
Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate.
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