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Shelton is the APB from Wisky.
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
thanks rocky....SHELTON...the kid that hit the winning 3 pointer from half court in his basketball game the other night....so we have some real alternatives at RB IMHO
....how do YOU see it shaking out Rocky? Pure speculation but give it a shot: are they looking for a 2 RB system: thunder and lightening type combo maybe?
If I had to guess for 2013:
Speed 1 - Tompkins
Speed 2 - Langford
Power 1 - Holmes
Power 2 - Williams
A few thoughts here:
1) Though MSU has used the 2 RB system ('07, '09, '10, '11-ish), the coaches seem very partial to having 1 back carry the ball 25+ times/game. 2007 was the only year you could say they ran a 2 RB system; in 2009 guys started dropping like flies (8 RBs started a game I believe: Anderson, Ray, Leggett, Caper, Baker, Winston, I may be forgetting someone else too), in '10 Baker was the #1 guy, though Bell's yardage looked great because he broke off that 70+ yard run vs. WMU in the first game. By midseason, Bell's carries had dwindled to almost nothing. In '11, Baker started getting most of the carries, then that shifted to Bell in the second half of the year. There wasn't a consistent balance between the two for a full year; clearly a primary and secondary RB, though those roles switched halfway through.
2) My personal preference is a 2-RB system, with a power back and a speed guy. Keeps both guys fresh and can wear the D out.
3) I think MSU is somewhat wedded to Tompkins because they promised he'd be the only RB taken in his class (2012) and with Onaje Miller leaving the program essentially before he started meant that MSU took 1 RB over the course of 2 years. With Caper and Baker looking like they had a lot of promise in '09, MSU didn't bring in a stud RB recruit in '10 or '11; Hill was a kind of APB type and I don't think was ever expected to carry the full load (not to say that he can't be effective, just that he wasn't looked at as a 25 carry/game guy) and Bell was a plan F recruit that no one predicted was going to go pro early. Bell/Hill could have been the next Ringer/Caulcrick (in terms of what the coaches were looking for), but Caper was injured prior to 2010 and Bell got some carries and did the most with them. Now he's leaving the team instead of being a rising RS JR with less wear/tear on his body.
4) Tompkins came in too small to contribute and needing to be more consistent in pass blocking. That's why he red-shirted, despite great speed.
5) I think, much like in 2009, MSU is going to be experimenting in the early season with several different RBs until someone shows that he's "the man". If no one steps up, expect a carousel a la 2009. This is my least favorite scenario to envision, but one that has a somewhat reasonable chance of happening. Neither Hill nor Langford have shown much of anything at RB, and the other options are either RS FR or true FR.
6) Delton Williams is intriguing. At 6'2 225 (reported), he'd be the most "bell-like" RB on the roster, with Holmes providing another power option. I think Shelton RS, because he's in the same mold as Tompkins.
7) I seriously doubt any RBs next year break 200 carries.
Any Oregon commits we can go after?
I wonder if any ND commits are getting weirded out too...
Nobody on the Ducks commit list is from the Midwest or anything where he'd be a on obvious one to go after.
The ND guy we'd most want is Steve Elmer and his statements made it sound like he committed to the institution more so than Brian Kelly.
Maybe the fact he's catholic.. just a thought.
Pat Narduzzi @CoachDuzzMSU
In Detroit today getting some work done. Glad to be back in the D. 2 DAYS #newspartandawgs
Marcus Ball - Any new updates here? What position are we recruiting him for?
Not sure, but Alec James was/is considering them. That should knock them out of the race.
Said the same thing about a recruit UO & MSU were after when Kelly was named coach. Kid went to UO anyway.
Should be different w/James because MSU was supposed to be his second choice.
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I could see where 2 of his primary choices, the coach has left, making the stability at MSU an attractive traight, to go along with our Defensive prowess and need at DLine.
Now, logic would indicate that our stability should really help us here. He's lost his head coach at Wisconsin and now Oregon (not sure his actual interest, but the point remains). However, logic doesn't always follow in recruiting.
Yea.. I wish when he talked about taking visits, his message would have been more geared towards something like "it was a close call between MSU and wisc, but given that my coaching staff is gone, I'm going to talk with MSU again" as opposed to "i'm restarting my recruitment from the beginning.."
Hopefully we'll get him on campus this weekend.
If MSU had any kind of a season, he's probably saying what you want.
I don't buy it.. The defense had a helluva season and we just sent a player from his position to the NFL a year early...
Our brand isn't great right now. Need better salesmen. We have at least 2 guys on staff who have zero ability to recruit. That's really difficult to overcome.
What we need to do is win and the school will sell itself..
It's tough right now.
Looking at a kid from the midwest, you've got ND and OSU which can legitimately trump themselves as National Title Contenders. Hoke uses smoke and mirrors to say the same thing.
Wisconsin has won at least a share of the past 3 B10 titles and gone to the rosebowl..
We need another very good year, another big 10 champ, a rose/bcs bowl experience stat..
Josh Jones just decommitted from Illinois. Are we still recruiting him?
AllenTrieu: Jones says he is looking at NC State, Colorado, Pittsburgh and will still consider Illinois too
We won 10 games in back to back years. We still can't recruit OL to save our life.
MSU's 2013 class started out strong but is going to close on a down note.
The needs on OL and DL are not going to be filled.
The only possible late commit that I see now who may have any future impact potential and that will be down the road, is FL, ATH Justin Williams.
This post was edited by CoachedByDuffy 15 months ago
Does that mean no James for sure?
Yeah as the previous poster said, if MSU had any kind of season (W's) ...
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