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No, I think that it's unrealistic to expect a program to be able to have 9 Big 10 starter-quality OL ready to go every season.
France is o.k., but I think Fonoti would have moved to the left side and Burkland at RT if Fonoti had stayed healthy last year. Once again, injuries . . .
Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.
Ok, who wrote into the Big 10 Blog about me?
Matt from Detroit writes: A poster on another site (with more free time than me) did some research and discovered that 6 of the 12 teams in the Big Ten had 7-plus starters injured on the O-Line this year. Those 6 teams were Wisconsin, Purdue, Illinois, and Minnesota (7), Iowa (8), and MSU with an astounding 9 starters on the OL. To me that looks like a list of the top six disappointing teams in the conference this year (maybe Minn aside due to no expectations). Those were definitely the teams that really struggled on offense for much of the year like MSU, Iowa, Illinois, and even Wisconsin. How much do you think that the bad luck injuries on the OL had to do with the poor offensive showing from those teams? If the OL can stay healthy next year are we looking at possible improvements on offense for State? A steady offensive line is the best thing for a pocket QB like Maxwell and MSU brings back a lot of experience and talent at the position. Or am I just grasping at straws in fear of an offense that was horrible last year and lost it's best player to the draft?
Curious as to rittenberg's response
Basically said yes, but it's only a portion of what was wrong. Cited accuracy of Maxwell and WR drops.
I know alot of you don't like Hondo but I agree with him on Staten: guy isn't getting the job done....Hondo claims that Dantonio is forcing Staten and the other offensive staff on Roushar. (he's a big....probably THE only big Roushar fan out there) He also thinks that Dantonio is stubborn and simply won't allow Roushar to change the scheme to match personnel.
I think that it's the OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR'S job to make their scheme fit the personnel and Roushar was a failure at that last year....sure Coach D' runs rough shod over him but he HAS to IMO because Roushar is a "little bird tucked under his wing"...........yeah, that's Dantonio's words of course, not mine.
BTW: Staten IS a very good recruiter, so he does have that going for him.
This post was edited by SPARTICUSS 14 months ago
Added Dwight Williams to the spreadsheet. Does anyone know what position we're looking at for Kiy Hester and TJ Harrell? I put them down as Safety.
Ky will be listed as an ATH but his size denotes the probability for the staff to make LB his natural position. I see him on the outside because of his athleticism but that's just me. His HS highlight film suggests he could play about 3-5 positions including RB, which, he most likely won't play at all. For me I think it's OLB or SS.
That would be me. I can no longer hide my identity as 'Matt from Detroit' with this kind of heat on me. I just saw that it actually made the blog. I only read on here but I post over there a lot more. Thought the info was great and wanted to take it over there. I can't believe he actually answered it. I'm on my way to credit you over on espn. I didn't think he'd post it if I dropped your username in the question so I can assure you I wasn't trying to steal your info.
Thanks for all of the research and insight you post even for us lowly non-VIPs. And thanks in advance for the next time I middle-man your stats and information straight to Rittenberg!
This post was edited by SpartyMC 14 months ago
Trust Mark Dantonio
No need to do all that, I was just surprised to see that out there. Carry on.
Do we have any idea who is coming for junior day?
I am sure Bill will write an article a few weeks after MSU's Junior day and list all the players as OSU locks or below OSU level.
Does anyone know how Ron Burton will factor into the recruiting equation? I have heard rumors of Texas and the East.
Hell probably get East. That was Gill's area, and Burton grew up in Virginia and played at UNC.
It was in Bill's latest "on the recruiting trail" referencing his natural afinity towards the East Coast. You are correct. Not sure where the Texas stuff came from. Given T-Sams non-ability to even get an official out of a Texas kid over the last two cycles I don't see the staff putting someone else there.
Amen Skip....and why on EARTH should we? It's a waste of time, money and resources. Everyone and their brother recruits Texas and with A&M's surge.....forget about it. As for Burton and the East it makes sense of the surface but how did he do out there for Air Force? I would ASSUME he did pretty well or we woudn't have hired the man. Anyone that can post some factual evidence as to his connections and effectiveness in recruiting that region would be appreciated.
Air Force is a service academy, so you can't really look at how he recruited there. But at air force all of his commitments were out of Texas/Cali.
thus all the talk about him recruiting those two states originally huh? Well, I suppose if he has strong enough ties to some of the schools in those two talent rich states it's worth SOME consideration but let's be honest. We've never done very well in either state.
I like the idea of branching out to Texas, but I think it more feasible to make a big push into Florida again. We are seemingly making the effort with the last couple of classes, but with Miami having their issues and FSU/Florida not the juggernauts they once were, we have a good shot of becoming a household name in the Miami/Ft. Lauderdale area as well as around Orlando.
Easier and cheaper travel for families to get up from Florida to see their kids.
TJ Harrell would be a nice start to Florida this cycle. I think your right. IMHO the high 3 star from the Florida/GA region is the target.
Give me Florida, Georgia, and Pennsylvania.
Recruit those three states well, which we have been able to do to a degree, and you'll have a title contender nearly every year. Throw in another east coast state like NJ or Virginia, and you've got a really good program.
Edit: IL would be a great swing state that could make up for another state in a given year or take a given class to the next level. But until something changes there, I'm not holding my breath.
Obviously, we have to recruit MI and OH well. And Wisconsin is a nice bonus.
This post was edited by Jandy 14 months ago
laconophilia is everywhere...
Completely agree. Florida is top 3 for states that produce D-1 talent, and Georgia and Pennsylvania are the second tier along with the likes of Ohio. If we can regularly pull talent from Florida, Georgia, Pennsylvania and Ohio, that's a damn solid pipeline network to have. Throw in the top talent from Michigan, and if we could get SOME presence in Chicago, we'd be golden. I wouldn't mind occasionally getting kids from New Jersey or Virginia.
Coaches who can outline plays on a black board are a dime a dozen. The ones who win get inside their player and motivate.
Not really with three airlines hubbing in Texas (Southwest Love field Dallas, American Dallas-Fort Worth, and Continental Houston) and none in Florida there are more flights with fewer layovers from Texas than Florida with Texas about the same price or cheeper. Travel distances are close with Dallas only about 25 miles farther than Orlando and Houston closer than Miami.
This post was edited by evergreen in Az 14 months ago
My ideal 85 man scholarship roster for MSU for any given year on average:
30- Michigan players
10- Big Ten Region states (Penn, Ind, Ill, Wisky, NJ)
3- Canadian All Stars- (because of proximity and having the "best player in a country"
Throw in 20 walk-ons from the State and the Midwest.
That is our footprint and plenty of possibilities to win championships. Can be tweaked with maybe a couple less from Ohio and toss those into the Midwest/East Coast footprint.
I really don't care where the kids are from. Just that they can play and are excited about becoming and being spartans and playing here for our coaches.
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