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Really?! It's not fair to kids to expect them to grow up and learn how to make an informed decision? No one's forcing them to commit early, they can take all the time they want to make a good decision. Is it really too much to expect a recruit to honor their word? MD gets all sorts of grief for not pressuring kids and telling them to go home talk it over with their parents, etc. That's the right way to do it, and expecting a recruit to live up to their word is the right way to do it also.
Pittman's coach knows that and said so openly when he changed his commit to OSU.
This post was edited by spartan80 13 months ago
It's clear to me you only read the last sentence in my post.
Let me restate it for you. There needs to be an early signing period so that kids who have made up their mind aren't hounded and pressured by 40 year old men until they buckle and give in.
I didn't mean that kids shouldn't have to honor their commitment. I meant that kids should be allowed to pick a school and announce that they no longer want other coaches contacting them at an earlier point than is currently the case. College coaches can continue to contact commits up until they sign. A great example is Justin Williams, who said that after he verbally committed to MSU he started receiving so many phone calls that he had to turn his phone off. Should a high school kid have to worry about turning off their phone to get privacy from college coaches? No. But how do you police it? One way would be to allow kids to remove incentive for competing coaches to call them.
laconophilia is everywhere...
I tend to side with the kids here. I'm not actually sure what a promise ring is (Besides an emo band from the 90s) but choosing a college is something you pretty much get one shot at and you should make the right decision. Better to look a little stupid now then regret it later. It's annoying that kids make super early commitments and then break them, but it's probably a bigger imposition of them to go to a school they no longer want to go to than it is on the fans to be annoyed and the very well-paid coaching staffs to have to find someone else.
An equally effective response to this would be for the NCAA to just say no recruiting kids before the summer prior to their senior year and then they'd only have about 9 months to drive the fans batty.
I'm not worried about them driving the fans crazy. I'm talking about a kid being allowed to make his decision and be left alone. Currently, that isn't the case. A recruit cannot elect to no longer be contacted by recruiters. He has to fend off each recruiter as he comes.
If an early signing period was put in place, no kids would be forced to signed. They still would have the choice to wait it out. But it would remove some of the 'verbal commitment to save a spot' and 'I'm a verbal but haven't decided yet' issues. With an early signing period, either the kid signs or he isn't a commitment. Simple.
New faces in new places. A change of scenery may do the trick.
I agree with you. My problem with an early signing period is if the coach leaves/gets fired. Do you get to change schools without a release?
Basketball has an early signing period..
I don't see the difference of why football can't have the same thing
If he still is a 3 star when the next rankings come out then I will never post on this board again. There is a reason some local HS coaches were saying he may be the best QB in VA last year....yes the same state Hackenberg was in. Don't hate, watch the film.
This post was edited by Aces High 13 months ago
Because he is good? Why else would you be an All American? I assume you were being sarcastic.
I have, and think he's better than Morris.
Of course, how we grade Morris is likely very different...
Huh. I must have wandered onto the UM board.
Preseason Ratings are a funny thing.... See #ARMPUNT aka September Heisman...
This post was edited by WAwine 13 months ago
I'm not going to get drawn into a debate about a virtual unknown suddenly thrust into the spotlight by commiting to an overrated squad beaten by their "lowly" in-state rival 4 of the last 5 times.
If however, you've got something to contribute on a topic relevant to our 14' recruiting board have at it. You're always welcome.
I looked, there wasn't a QB outside the top 10 in the game last year. I don't think he's ranked on ESPN but I think he's somewhere in the 30's and a 3 star on this site? Hence my question, no sarcasm involved. I think its cute you think he will be a 4 star because he's that good and not because he committed to UM. Of course your 3 star qb is better than the number 1 qb recruit this year!!! I've seen you post on your home board, go mock sparty some more for saying things less of a reach than what you said.
Rankings and stars are meaningless to coaches. If UofM offers, he's probably pretty good. Let's skip the mocking of high school kids cause they are off the radar with the recruiting sites.
MSU routinely finds kids that are underrated.
(I'm a Spartan fan btw)
No, he is not. All the scum troll's need to get the f--- out.
A committed recruit can simply take the call, say "I'm fully committed, please don't call anymore", and then not take further calls. No longer hounded.
Suddenly, stars don't matter to UM fans! Film and talent evaluation are no longer the butt of scUMmer MSU jokes! Cats living with dogs! Fire is wet!
Weird, I didn't insult the kid at all. I asked why he was invited to the UA AA game, that's a highly unusual invite.
He was responding to a question I asked, no harm in that. I post on their board too....
The only things discussed on the main board here is boners, anal, and blowers. Its full of ex-students who haven't figured out any other way to pass the time during the day, its like a small clique. I prefer tDuff and UM's board because they actually discuss recruiting.
Oooor, we could just have an early signing period. What would be the harm in that?
If that kid had committed to Kentucky or the like, he would not be getting an AA invite. Especially not before even getting a standard ranking from the usual services.
This does seem like a good idea for the reasons you mention and it seems good for the coaches and good for the kids. Seems like coaching changes would be best handled by the NCAA granting waivers, not a blanket rule, because that leaves the initiative in the hands of the kid and their family. The only downside I can see is it might push the recruiting process even earlier.
When do you think it should be?
June/July before senior football season. It might push it up a bit, but it's already getting pushed up a ton naturally.
As for coaches leaving, basketball has to deal with the same issue, so I don't see it as a show stopper.
"Naturally" seems like a slightly ironic way to describe Les Miles stalking 8th graders, but you're right, that's all happening already and the incentives will tend to push coaches to get worse and worse with it. No reason to let that stop an early signing period.
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