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Yah, I had to give it a second read. The first one was a fly by and I misinterpreted it. My bad.
They're definitely adapting....remember the days of having OL in for camp before offering?
Those weren't necessarily "bad" days in my opinion. There's such a push for earlier and earlier recruiting, but the staff has done some good evaluation at their camps.
Yup. The less evaluation time, the more mistakes the staff's gonna make. Pushing the recruiting cycle earlier and earlier is a pretty classic tragedy of the commons situation where it's in each coaching staff's interest to try to get in earlier than everyone else on individual recruits but on the whole it's bad for everybody because it's leading to less-evaluated prospects getting signed.
I would argue it's not bad for everybody .... if teams like Alabama use all their ships on 25 guys early and they missed on 10 of them because they were signed early that means 10 more guys slipped into the open market for lesser teams to gobble up.
I think that MSU is in a situation to benefit from the early signing period. They are unlikely to fill their class early .... giving them the opportunity to scoop up some the remnants the big hogs of recruiting missed.
The Texas versus Texas A&M scenario illustrates this point fairly well. Texas is always gonna get theirs, and they typically have their class filled for almost the entire cycle by April 1st. If you look at their teams currently you could easily make the arguement that A&M has the more talented squad at this point. They're classes were not ranked anywhere near eachother. Over the 09' and 10' cycles Texas never had a class finish below 6th while A&M finished 28th and 24th respectively with average analyst player ratings between 78 and 81 give or take a few hundreths.
Just for the record, everyone lauds our 09' class so much but if you look back, using 247's ratings module we rose in average player rating from 78(09') and change to almost 86(12'). For those like me, who regularly bitch and moan about not closing kids, we've come along way baby. Consider Miami had the #10 class with an average player rating identical to ours.
These schools with unlimited power operating in impunity don't affect our overall class as a whole, which is where you build a program. However, they've got the ability to come in and steal a difference maker or two over the years. When you think about that top 5 receiver making that extra grab or two it can equate to the difference between averaging 24 ppg or 31 ppg
Northwestern just landed a QB from Illinois so that takes them out of the Kizer and Durkin sweepstakes. Should help us.
And possibly takes them out of play for Watkins, who they were looking at as a QB (according to info in his thread).
I agree. More of what I was saying was that they've made a marked improvement seemingly out of nowhere. They invested heavily in their staff and got some high level kids. It remains to be seen if that translates to a system that puts that talent to work.
Very True... Will be interesting to see what happens with them in the next 2 years
Especially considering that they have to compete against all of those $EC powerhouses. They would face a lot less skepticism if they were in any other major conference.
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Are we in on any DEs with OSU offers?
OSU just got a commitment from Core6 DE Dylan Thompson. He was supposed to visit MSU next week and get an offer.
Maybe lawrence Marshall. Thx for the info, bummer
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AllenTrieu: Detroit Cass Tech junior defensive end Brian Sanders commits to Bowling Green
Would he have ever gotten an offer from us?
The PennLive list of top 25 Pennsylvania Recruits for 2014. Several Spartan targets.
Ranked Name School Position Height Weight Committed
1 Montae Nicholson Gateway (Monroeville) S 6-3 200 Undecided
2 Dravon Henry Aliquippa CB 5-11 185 Undecided
3 Alex Bookser Mount Lebanon OT 6-6 295 Undecided
4 K.J. Williams Liberty (Bethlehem) WR 6-2 190 Undecided
5 Thaddius Smith Cardinal O'Hara (Springfield) ATH 5-9 170 Undecided
6 Troy Apke Mount Lebanon WR 6-2 175 Undecided
7 Shai McKenzie Washington RB 5-11 210 Undecided
8 Anthony Davis Gateway (Monroeville) CB 6-1 185 Undecided
9 J.T. Blyden Cardinal O'Hara (Springfield) RB 6-0 195 Undecided
10 Andrew Ford Cedar Cliff (Camp Hill) QB 6-3 185 Undecided
11 Chandler Kincade Blackhawk (Beaver Falls) QB 6-4 210 Pittsburgh
12 Justice Rawlins Monessen OLB 6-2 215 Undecided
13 Michael Grimm Bethel Park OT 6-6 310 Undecided
14 Ricky Rogers Gateway (Monroeville) WR 6-2 195 West Virginia
15 Robert Martin Harrisburg RB 6-0 190 Undecided
16 Delvon Randall Gateway (Monroeville) CB 6-0 175 Undecided
17 Chase Winovich Thomas Jefferson (Clairton) OLB 6-4 210 Undecided
18 DeAndre Scott Imhotep Charter (Philadelphia) S 5-10 180 Undecided
19 Noah Beh Scranton Prep DE 6-6 235 Undecided
20 Elijah Zeise North Allegheny(Wexford) ATH 6-2 185 Undecided
21 Nate Stone Greensburg Central Catholic ILB 6-0 220 Undecided
22 J.J. Cosentino Pittsburgh Central Catholic QB 6-4 220 Florida State
23 Tyler Burke Coatesville MLB 6-4 230 Undecided
24 Zaire Franklin La Salle College (Philadelphia) OLB 6-1 215 Undecided
25 Daquan Worley Coatesville CB 5-9 155 Undecided
Check out Andrew P. Shay's rankings of the Top 25 Pennsylvania high school football Class of 2014 athletes.
Predict the next commit?
I'm going to say Darien Watkins, followed quickly by Brian Allen and Chase Gianackos.
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