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Chiropractors..Is there a more delusional sect of professionals?

  • Dallas GoBlue03 said...

    They are unknown to the normal parent and most docs.

    Do you think parents have a good understanding of drug efficacy and toxicity? There is no way 99% of people would understand the words coming out of my mouth if I tried to explain the testing involved in drug research. What's important is that I understand them, not Suzy the grocery store worker with a sick child. She needs to know that we're doing all that we can and that we have children too.

    "We'll play anyone, anyplace, anytime!" - Tom Izzo

    ToxSpartan

  • msu98 said...

    Can you name a district where a principal or assistant makes $200,000 as you claim?

    Don't bother.

    LP

  • vitocorleone said...

    Don't get me wrong...I enjoy the back cracking aspect, I've been a few times, and it provides some temporary relief.

    But I know a guy who recently became a Chiropractor..and his father was one also. They are convinced that adjustments provide all of these various health benefits. They think the adjustments can cure things that it CLEARLY cannot. I understand they are passionate about their chosen profession, but come on.

    The topper..this guys just posted a status about how NEWBORN BABIES should be adjusted, because the birthing process can create a lifetime of problems. WHAT THE FUCK?!

    There is plenty of research to support and prove that chiropractic care does improve your overall health and can cure some health issues. I have personally seen people with Parkinson's disease who have tried every medicine that exists, have had numerous surgery's, and have seen the top neurologists, and have their tremors immediately stop after a single adjustment.

    I have personally seen people who are disabled and have had numerous surgery's, told they will never walk again, and receive chiropractic treatment and can now walk.

    I've seen BABIES who had cerebral palsy and had unsuccessful medical treatment, get chiropractic care and their issues have been resolved.

    Chiropractors take the same classes that MDs do (switch adjustments with medicine, learn more A & P, and more radiology classes), take 4 separate sets of boards, and have more credits hours than MDs. They learn physical therapy and can take ANOTHER set of boards just for physical therapy.

    Both have their place in society. There are bad MDs and there are bad DCs (doctor of chiropractic) out there just like with any profession. It is another way to improve your overall health with less risks, and it's cheaper.

    Dendrobates ●

  • The Doctor said...

    Most chiropractors had shitty grades in undergrad, thus couldn't get into med/dent/vet schools. A few of them probably had family members in the business and a nice practice to come into, but in general, most of your chiropractors had right around a 3.0 in undergrad which isn't horrible, but will not make you competitive if you want to be a doctor.

    Some people just don't want to go into medicine and push pills all today and have the drug addict begging for oxycodones. Alternative healthcare is an ever expanding field, now being taught in Yale and Harvard med school. Some of the smartest people in healthcare are chiropractors, just because they don't want our broken medical model does not make them any less intelligent.

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  • Dendrobates said...

    There is plenty of research to support and prove that chiropractic care does improve your overall health and can cure some health issues. I have personally seen people with Parkinson's disease who have tried every medicine that exists, have had numerous surgery's, and have seen the top neurologists, and have their tremors immediately stop after a single adjustment.

    I have personally seen people who are disabled and have had numerous surgery's, told they will never walk again, and receive chiropractic treatment and can now walk.

    I've seen BABIES who had cerebral palsy and had unsuccessful medical treatment, get chiropractic care and their issues have been resolved.

    Chiropractors take the same classes that MDs do (switch adjustments with medicine, learn more A & P, and more radiology classes), take 4 separate sets of boards, and have more credits hours than MDs. They learn physical therapy and can take ANOTHER set of boards just for physical therapy.

    Both have their place in society. There are bad MDs and there are bad DCs (doctor of chiropractic) out there just like with any profession. It is another way to improve your overall health with less risks, and it's cheaper.

    Did you really just say that chiropractic adjustments have cured CP?

    Everything else you said very reasonable....but I have to single that claim out. REALLY?

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  • I was implying more towards superintendents, but to answer your question about administrators making 200,000...where I am from, north of Chicago. I think my area is right up there with the highest paid public school administrators in the country, if not the highest paid.

    edit: see my post 2 min later. my internet messed up

    This post was edited by Born2Kill on 7/18/2011 at 4:47 PM

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  • Dendrobates said...

    There is plenty of research to support and prove that chiropractic care does improve your overall health and can cure some health issues. I have personally seen people with Parkinson's disease who have tried every medicine that exists, have had numerous surgery's, and have seen the top neurologists, and have their tremors immediately stop after a single adjustment.

    I have personally seen people who are disabled and have had numerous surgery's, told they will never walk again, and receive chiropractic treatment and can now walk.

    I've seen BABIES who had cerebral palsy and had unsuccessful medical treatment, get chiropractic care and their issues have been resolved.

    Chiropractors take the same classes that MDs do (switch adjustments with medicine, learn more A & P, and more radiology classes), take 4 separate sets of boards, and have more credits hours than MDs. They learn physical therapy and can take ANOTHER set of boards just for physical therapy.

    Both have their place in society. There are bad MDs and there are bad DCs (doctor of chiropractic) out there just like with any profession. It is another way to improve your overall health with less risks, and it's cheaper.

    Well said

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  • I've gone to one chiro for a handful of visits. He worked with some US Track teams and the Trailblazers. Didn't push appointments on me and got me all fixed up in a handful of visits.

    As with pretty much any profession, there are people who know their shit and there are pretenders.

    PortlandSpartan

  • vitocorleone said...

    Don't get me wrong...I enjoy the back cracking aspect, I've been a few times, and it provides some temporary relief.

    But I know a guy who recently became a Chiropractor..and his father was one also. They are convinced that adjustments provide all of these various health benefits. They think the adjustments can cure things that it CLEARLY cannot. I understand they are passionate about their chosen profession, but come on.

    The topper..this guys just posted a status about how NEWBORN BABIES should be adjusted, because the birthing process can create a lifetime of problems. WHAT THE FUCK?!

    There's lots of research that shows your statement is wrong. Do the research before you make assumptions on things you know nothing about.

    My cousin had problems conceiving, went through everything possible to get pregnant. Spent thousands of dollars to no success. The docs pretty much said sorry she can't ever have any. She was not overweight either. After several adjustments, she was pregnant. And now has 3 children.

    Grandpa had high blood pressure, did everything right, went to the chiro, blood pressure is healthy.

    Best friend was injured in a car accident, had horrible migraines and back pain. Tried every pill and a painful surgery. Nothing helped. After seeing a chiropractor, hardly has any issues any more and the migraines are all gone.

    DingleBerry80

  • LP said...

    Don't bother.

    I was implying more towards superintendents, but to answer your question about administrators making 200,000...where I am from, north of Chicago. I think my area is right up there with the highest paid public school administrators in the country, if not the highest paid. I think Chicago Sun Times has a database on their site where you can look up all the salaries. Look up Lake Forest, that has to be one of the higher paying districts up around 200k.

    so no i wasn't just making numbers up

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  • Dallas GoBlue03 said...

    Some people just don't want to go into medicine and push pills all today and have the drug addict begging for oxycodones. Alternative healthcare is an ever expanding field, now being taught in Yale and Harvard med school. Some of the smartest people in healthcare are chiropractors, just because they don't want our broken medical model does not make them any less intelligent.

    i have nothing against chiropractor other than the fact that i think it is bs. if i were looking for alternative means for tx, i would try a DO. for minor/moderate back problems, i would see a DPT.

    This post was edited by The Doctor on 7/18/2011 at 4:47 PM

    hoke- to alter or manipulate so as to give a deceptively or superficially improved quality or value.

    The Doctor

  • LP said...

    Don't bother.

    Gatta Nanciann District Superintendent Niles Twp CHSD 219 $250,168 $310,288
    Mansfield Edward District Superintendent Homewood Flossmoor CHSD 233 $276,014 $256,998

    These are just two examples in my area back in Illinois. I'm not undermining the jobs of teachers or administrators (my grandpa, mom, and two aunts were teachers), but jesus that is a lot of money.

    "Forty school superintendents in Chicago's six-county region earned more than $200,000 during the last academic year -- up from 27 who hit that mark the year before. And overall, the region's 279 education leaders earned an average of $159,123 in 2002-03. That amount is 4.5 percent higher than the year before."

    This post was edited by Born2Kill on 7/18/2011 at 4:52 PM

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  • The Doctor said...

    i have nothing against chiropractor other than the fact that i think it is bs. if i were looking for an alternative means for tx, i would try a DO. for minor/moderate back problems, i would see a DPT.

    Well if you are a doctor, I would never go to you.You obviously don't read research to give your patient the best healthcare. Against all other healthcare providers chiropractors are the best at what they do. You are doing a disservices to your patients, sorry to be blunt. Please read again the Hippocratic oath.

    This post was edited by Dallas GoBlue03 on 7/18/2011 at 4:55 PM

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  • vitocorleone said...

    Did you really just say that chiropractic adjustments have cured CP?

    Everything else you said very reasonable....but I have to single that claim out. REALLY?

    There is no known cure for CP, however this child's issues have been resolved for the most part (she is 3 now). She had a minor case of CP and only an issue in her one leg (slightly turned out). With the chiro care she received it has turned in it's normal position and her walking is almost perfect. She will always have a slight issue with it, but it's hardly noticable and does not interfere with her walking now.

    Dendrobates ●

  • Dallas GoBlue03 said...

    Against all other healthcare providers chiropractors are the best at what they do. You are doing a disservices to your patients, sorry to be blunt.

    You did a disservice to humanity by going to scUM...just saying...nobody's perfect.

    "We'll play anyone, anyplace, anytime!" - Tom Izzo

    ToxSpartan

  • Dallas GoBlue03 said...

    Well if you are a doctor, I would never go to you.You obviously don't read research to give your patient the best healthcare. Against all other healthcare providers chiropractors are the best at what they do. You are doing a disservices to your patients, sorry to be blunt.

    why the fuck would i refer to a chiropractor for dental pain??? there has been some research with accupuncture and gag reflexes, but no way would i refer to a chiropractor for TMJ disorder.

    hoke- to alter or manipulate so as to give a deceptively or superficially improved quality or value.

    The Doctor

  • The Doctor said...

    i have nothing against chiropractor other than the fact that i think it is bs. if i were looking for an alternative means for tx, i would try a DO. for minor/moderate back problems, i would see a DPT.

    Do you work on baby teeth?

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  • I go to a chiropractor. My kids and wife all go to the same guy.

    He's not a mumbo jumbo type guy. I went in for sciatica years ago. He saw me twice a week for 3 weeks and then it went to 3- 4 times a year whenever I felt pain in my leg. 3 years ago I fet some occasional numbness in my right hand. Went to a PT I know, he checked it out and recommended I see the same chiropractor (he didn't know I was already seeing him. For about 18 months things went okay and then nothing worked. Some xrays showed arthritis in my neck from an injury over 20 years ago was the issue. My chiropractor gave me the names of 3 orthopedic surgeons. I checked all three out with the PT and chose the one both said was very good and not an arrogant jerk.

    My kids saw him about 4 times a year when their sport season started or they felt a tweek in their back.

    MSU has chiropractors their athletes are sent to see for treament.

    My advice is if you go to one and they try to set you up with 12 sessions on their DRX9000 or try sell you magnets just leave. Good chiropractors adjust your neck and back. They don't cure male pattern baldness or improve your sex life. Sometimes, like me, you need to see a surgeon and good chiropractors refer you to doctors when they know there is nothing left for them to try.

    GRR Spartan

  • I went to the chiropractor once.

    Couple twists and turns and BAM, penis was 4 inches longer.

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  • Snake Plissken said...

    Do you work on baby teeth?

    i am fortunate enough to have had the training to where i am all specialties rolled into one. i refer out very little.

    hoke- to alter or manipulate so as to give a deceptively or superficially improved quality or value.

    The Doctor

  • Calling Admiral Spinebender

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    Snake Plissken ●

  • I find it funny that the Dentist is calling out Chiros as quacks. One of the biggest ripoff professions on the planet is dentistry.

    Posting member of tRCMB since 1997. It is ALWAYS a great day to be a Spartan!!!!

    Raytooth Morgan

  • The Doctor said...

    why the fuck would i refer to a chiropractor for dental pain??? there has been some research with accupuncture and gag reflexes, but no way would i refer to a chiropractor for TMJ disorder.

    You said chiropractic is bs, I suggested you read research to back up your claim. I said at what they do, meaning spine problems as everybody knows the typical scope of practice. Your off cuff remark about being bs without reading research is irresponsible as a doc, I hope you reassess your responsibilities to the public.

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  • Raytooth Morgan said...

    I find it funny that the Dentist is calling out Chiros as quacks. One of the biggest ripoff professions on the planet is dentistry.

    really? ok

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    For the love of Trevor...™

    d mcc ●

  • The doctor if your a dentist my bad, I thought you were an MD. If your a dentist that research real does not pertain to you, I apologize

    This post was edited by Dallas GoBlue03 on 7/18/2011 at 5:05 PM

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