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Citizen Roberts

  • article in the new yorker on the citizens united case and how it went down.

    say hello to our new corporate overlords.

    How John Roberts Orchestrated Citizens United : The New Yorker

    As American politics assumes its new form in the post-Citizens United era, the credit or the blame goes mostly to Roberts...

    www.newyorker.com

    Turf

  • Unfortunately what many feared when Roberts was nominated.

    Article is a good nuts and bolts primer on how the SCOTUS works in the 21st century

    GRR Spartan

  • so no comments from the conservatives? you guys used to scream about activist judges and how it shouldn't be done. now it's ok?

    Turf

  • Turf said...

    so no comments from the conservatives? you guys used to scream about activist judges and how it shouldn't be done. now it's ok?

    You will find that unless it is making up lies about President Obama or lies about Mittens most of the Conservative posters on this board have no thoughts at all....

    Lurking on tRCMB since 1996

    TrapperGus

  • I would like to applaud conservatives of this country for making this all possible. Thank you.

    HillSpartan

  • Turf said...

    so no comments from the conservatives? you guys used to scream about activist judges and how it shouldn't be done. now it's ok?

    Citizens United was decided correctly.

    You guys really believe the government should be allowed to prohibit the showing of a movie critical of a politician?

    Supporting the constitution isn't judicial activism.

    RQA

  • RQA said...

    Citizens United was decided correctly.

    You guys really believe the government should be allowed to prohibit the showing of a movie critical of a politician?

    Supporting the constitution isn't judicial activism.

    Swing and a miss.

    http://www.aip.org/history/einstein/essay.htm

    iCameron

  • RQA said...

    Citizens United was decided correctly.

    You guys really believe the government should be allowed to prohibit the showing of a movie critical of a politician?

    Supporting the constitution isn't judicial activism.

    There wasn't a rule that this group could never show a movie critical of a politician.

    HillSpartan

  • GRR Spartan said...

    Unfortunately what many feared when Roberts was nominated.

    Article is a good nuts and bolts primer on how the SCOTUS works in the 21st century

    Decision was correct and probably would have been the same with Rehnquist.

    The RCMB...is one of the most awful, alarming, inappropriate, disgusting, and offensive msg boards in the history of the internet.

    Jud Owns Digger

  • Jud Owns Digger said...

    Decision was correct and probably would have been the same with Rehnquist.

    Considering Rehnquist upheld McCain-Feingold in 2003, you're wrong on that account.

    The fact of this case as presented was the original argument was for a narrow ruling of the law. Roberts took it upon himself to broaden the argument and thus overturn the law. That's judicial activism at its finest.

    You'd be screaming if a more liberal court did what Roberts did.

    MSULordyoda

  • HillSpartan said...

    There wasn't a rule that this group could never show a movie critical of a politician.

    No, they just said they couldn't show it within 30 days of an election. You agree with this?

    RQA

  • RQA said...

    No, they just said they couldn't show it within 30 days of an election. You agree with this?

    that isn't germain to the final decision.

    Robert's directing the court to re-open ended up repealing the law that prohibited corporations and other interest groups from unlimited (and often unreported) donations.

    Here in MI many of us are seeing pro-Romney and anti-Obama 30 second spots on TV. $4M worth all paid for by "independent" PAC's. All are coordinated purchases lining up so one one ad buy ends another with a similar message takes its place. That wouldn't have happened prior to this decision.

    Folks like Art Pope in NC, Dick and Betsy DeVos in MI, Diane Hendricks in WI are donating millions to state and congressiona races for "independent" spending

    Hendricks, the Koch brothers, some members of the Walton clan are making donations across the country in state races outside their home states and don't have tp be indentified under the new rules. Corporations can do the same thing.

    Some of you thnk this is great now. Wait until Middle East oil money or Chinese money starts playing the game under the cover of a US corporations. It won't be great.

    GRR Spartan

  • GRR Spartan said...

    Middle East oil money or Chinese money starts playing the game under the cover of a US corporations. It won't be great.

    How do we know they aren't already? The activist SCOTUS decision allows anonymous donations.

    "If you have the right to be offended I have the right to offend you." - Ricky Gervais

    Enrico Palazzo

  • RQA said...

    No, they just said they couldn't show it within 30 days of an election. You agree with this?

    GRR gives a long-winded response to this simple question but refuses to answer it.

    Come on GRR, you aren't shy about stating your opinion. So let's have it.

    RQA

  • GRR Spartan said...

    Some of you thnk this is great now.

    Great? Maybe, maybe not.

    But it is free speech. The constitution sure bothers you guys.

    RQA

  • RQA said...

    GRR gives a long-winded response to this simple question but refuses to answer it.

    Come on GRR, you aren't shy about stating your opinion. So let's have it.

    My opinion?

    You don't give a shit about what I think because you love a world of 30 second sound bytes and 7 word sentences.

    You care a helluva a lot more in a post count while your conne buddies build up their schtick list (and you may have a few you use too)

    GRR Spartan

  • RQA said...

    No, they just said they couldn't show it within 30 days of an election. You agree with this?

    Sure. Show it 31 days before the primary and there's no problem.

    HillSpartan

  • GRR Spartan said...

    My opinion?

    You don't give a shit about what I think because you love a world of 30 second sound bytes and 7 word sentences.

    You care a helluva a lot more in a post count while your conne buddies build up their schtick list (and you may have a few you use too)

    Still no answer.

    I have found that you can learn more about leftists by things they refuse to answer than things they will.

    (a 20 word sentence, btw! lol)

    RQA

  • HillSpartan said...

    Sure. Show it 31 days before the primary and there's no problem.

    What a country you want to live in.

    I show a film critical of Obama 1 week before the election and the police throw me in jail.

    RQA

  • RQA said...

    What a country you want to live in.

    I show a film critical of Obama 1 week before the election and the police throw me in jail.

    What a country we live in. Bankers steal billions of dollars, crash the economy, get more billions of taxpayer dollars and keep it for themselves, foreclose on homeowners with fraudulent documents, buy congressional reps and senators, get all the laws that were supposed to prohibit their criminal behavior repealed, then get the average citizens who protest their greed and corruption tortured and jailed for protesting in their presence. Yep, aint' free speech great?

    Madhatter536

  • I would love to see RQA's ass in county jail for 30-60-90 days so he could return here and enlighten us all on his country club experience.

    RQA in jail would be very funny

    This post was edited by GRR Spartan on 5/16/2012 at 12:34 PM

    GRR Spartan

  • RQA said...

    What a country you want to live in.

    I show a film critical of Obama 1 week before the election and the police throw me in jail.

    Great point. I would rather live in your country where campaign finance regulations are completely removed and billionaires and billion-dollar corporations are able to simply buy politicians as they see fit. Your corporate masters are most pleased.

    HillSpartan

  • HillSpartan said...

    Great point. I would rather live in your country where campaign finance regulations are completely removed and billionaires and billion-dollar corporations are able to simply buy politicians as they see fit. Your corporate masters are most pleased.

    Gee, that describes this country exactly.

    Madhatter536

  • Madhatter536 said...

    get all the laws that were supposed to prohibit their criminal behavior repealed

    Please name one.

    RQA

  • RQA said...

    Please name one.

    Glass-Stegall.

    Madhatter536