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Without due process of course. Change we can believe in
This guy gets a letter from the VA that indicates "based on a report from the Portland VA medical center" that he might no longer be competent.
They propose to let him submit evidence that this is not true
If they determine he is not competent they will
- appoint someone to manage his finances
- prohibit him from purchasing weapons and ammunition
So his doctors are worried enough about his competence to submit a report asking for a competency analysis.
Do you think that the Feds should let him have guns?
If they did, and he killed someone due to being mental disorder, wouldn't you be pointing out that we knew this guy might be sick and decided to let him buy guns anyway?
I think Obama once said that someone that is dumb enough to join the military is too dumb to own a gun, this makes prefect sense.
I'd like to see a link to that......I googled but couldn't find it.
I did however find this:
Since you chose to be a civilian keyboard warrior this won't affect your life. If you think that psychiatric screening isn't something the VA should cover you are a heartless individual.
Maybe the only thing that will change your view is if some vet near you goes off and you or a family member is a victim of that vet's violent actions with a gun.
I wonder how many minutes it would take you to contact lawyers once you found out the VA had diagnosed the shooter but didn't want to take away his rights?
So the Vet was good enough to shoot a rifle and protect his company but as soon as he flies home he's no longer competent to own a gun? F that.
The indoctrinated will no longer be able to deny it, only defend it.
have you ever met and talked with any veteran who has PTSD based on their military service?
I have read some GRR posts
Question authority. Power to the people
War changes people.
Some join and serve like myself and others.
Some want to wear a uniform and be present at officiated battles. They join university marching bands.
Think about what you posted and read about what people in combat live daily.
Some people don't adapt. Its not all vets. Its vets that seek help and are diagnosed. If every thing is peachy they aren't showing up at the VA or other places seeking psychiatric evaluation.
You're asking me if I think somebody who has committed no crime, done nothing wrong or illegal in any way should be allowed to freely exercise his 2nd amendments rights or if he should be forced to go before an unelected board of bureaucrats and prove to the unelected bureaucrats that he should be allowed to exercise his constitutionally protected natural rights? Am I understanding your question correctly?
In other news, I hear there's a live stream of pakistan v south africa...
No I'm asking you if a guy who has done nothing wrong, committed no crime, or done anything illegal in any way, but who's doctor feels he his not competent to manage his own affairs should be forced to go before an unelected board of bureaucrats and prove to the unelected bureaucrats that despite his doctors opinion it's the right thing to do to let this guy buy a gun.
Is that a clear enough statement of the question?
Is it his Dr. that is concerned or the feds? From the article....
"The letter provides no specifics on the reasons for the proposed finding of incompetency; just that is based on a determination by someone in the VA."
This post was edited by Compound 2 13 months ago
There is an attached letter at the bottom:
"We received information from the Portland VA medical center"
I presume that this means someone at the hospital was concerned about this guy's mental ability to manage his life.
- If that presumption is incorrect, and no medical professional has made this determination then I agree this is inappropriate
- if a medical professional has indicated a concern about this veteran's mental competence, then I think putting his right to buy a firearm on hold is appropriate
Incedentally his choices in response to the letter are
- disagree and provide a note from his doctor
- disagree and have a hearing
since GRRumpy owns guns, they must have sent his letter via the USPS.
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