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Your obvious hatred for someone who fails to conform to your idiotic standards isn't surprising coming from someone who values appearance over substance. Standing, sitting, hat on, hat off, none of those is disrespectful. That you think otherwise demonstrates you lack real values. I am entitled as an American to believe what I choose, and act as I choose as long as it harms no other person. Your need to condemn and criticize those that don't do as you do shows that it is YOU who doesn't understand what rights and freedom truly are. That is the real shame.
And for the record, I do stand and remove my hat for the anthem in most cases. That I chose to leave my hat on during a rainstorm does NOT mean I am less of an American. But criticizing my choice means that you are.
I don't think you are getting this, and you are pretty much reading into this what you will. I honestly do not even think you have read my posts.
I will try and explain this once again since you can't seem to understand. After that I am done.
Standing, removing your hat, and placing your hand over your heart has been put into US code as how to conduct yourself during the national anthem. It was determined by our elected officials, and created as a universal way for people to show their respect.
Now, if you choose not do to that, go right ahead. Yet you have to realize that is a gesture of disrespect, and people won't like it (which they are more than free to do).
I will give you a different example of what you are doing. In English, we have agreed upon meanings for words. When you use them, people interpret them from agreed upon meaning. You are saying you don't like the greeting "hello" and instead use "fuck you," then get pissed when others don't like it claiming they are nazi and soviets for voicing their displeasure.
btw...being able to criticize others is freedom. Denying people that is not freedom. I have no idea how you cannot understand that. It is insanely clear you have no freaking clue, not even on shred, of the freedoms provided to you and others. You are wanting to force your beliefs on others, that is the whole joke about this. I am not only defending your right to not stand, but I am defending others right to call you a jackass. Who here is the one who understands freedom again?
Oh, and I haven't even touched all your straw man arguments. You clearly have a set up response to this and attack arguments not even made. It's rather pathetic. In reality, people should neither hate you or respect you. They should pity you since you don't even know what you are doing and I don't even think you know why.
This post was edited by scott91575 18 months ago
Well aren't you a POS. Go away Madhatter. Didn't you get permabanned on the old board?
See, that is freedom. You should further confuse his idiotic ideas on freedom by banning him.
No, I have read your posts. And I do clearly understand you. You think everyone should behave the way YOU want them to and that YOU have the right to tell them so, but they don't have the right to tell you to leave them alone. There isn't a law that says a person has to stand, remove their hat, or put their hand over their heart during the anthem. It is a personal choice, period. It isn't yours or anyone's right to call out a person who chooses not to do so. This obsession you have to force everyone to conform to your beliefs is troublesome. Obsession like yours usually leads to you physically assaulting someone who disagrees with your rigid viewpoint. Calling someone a jackass for not conforming to your standards makes you, not them, the jackass.
Your Seig Heil viewpoint is not defending freedom. It is restricting it. And you are so rigid in your hatred of non-conformity that you don't see it.
I grew up in a military family and served (my username was my Army MOS).
I think you are free to stand or sit, take your hat off or leave it on sing or not sing. I choose to live by a certain standard and can hardly expect a perfect stranger to live by the same standard. I may not like what I see, may not agree with what I see but it is hardly my place to call out just anyone.
That being said if you ARE wearing a uniform or I recognize you as a veteran, I would expect you to conduct yourself accordingly or have a damn good reason not to be (wounded or disabled or an old vet) To fall short of the standard is only a reflection upon yourself and no one else. Get yourself squared away.
This post was edited by 11B2P 18 months ago
All true. And none of that changes the fact that creating an additional distraction during Star Spangled Banner is as disrespectful or more. Wait til it's over.
Infantry...I served with the 24th.
Bob Sakimano to triple amputee at World Series game: "Thanks for defending my right to not take my hat off during that silly song at silly sporting events in our silly country."
I always provide cymbol sound effects during the national anthem. For example after "the bombs bursting in air" I'll give a *tsk* to increase the effect and emotion for the people around me. --- cool?
"As far as the downvotes. It's a gnat biting an lion"
-- A member of tRCMB Justice League, taking the internet WAY WAY too seriously.
OK, I take it back. You did read my posts, which means you are just a complete fucking idiot. I honestly do not know how you function in normal society. You read what you want, and obviously have a severe mental deficiency.
and that's fine too. I am not saying the people making an issue of it during the National Anthem are correct, yet they have the full right to say something just like people have the full right to not stand.
I just hate the "I can do whatever the fuck I want in the name of freedom and you better be cool with it or you are a Nazi" line of thinking (which ironically would be much closer to tyranny than what they deride). If you want to do something that clearly will be interpreted as disrespect for the United States, go right ahead, but don't expect people to be cool with it. Same thing if you want to say something during the anthem. Feel free to express yourself, but it to can be disliked. That is what this is all about, people doing something that can be seen as disrespectful, and then ticked when there are people who dislike it. If you don't want people acting that way, don't fucking do it. Otherwise shut your hole and deal with the criticism. That goes for either side.
The fact that someone wasted so much time even thinking about these possibilities shows that many Americans have far too much time on their hands.
Do it or not, I don't see the big deal. I take my hat off but have no problem if others keep it on.
Ma'am is a horrible way to address a female stranger. Miss is so much more preferred. I work as an Executive Casino Host and everyone is taught that in the first conference attended. Sir is okay though. Sir and Miss is how I always great strangers and until my guests tell me otherwise I refer to them as Mr. Smith and Ms. Jones. Only when they tell me to call them by their first name do I ever do that. For the larger players that are concerned with being private, I call them Mr. S and Ms. J.
He was just being sarcastic!
You've clearly never had the Queen of England in your casino. Although she does prefer Mam as in jam, not Ma'am as in arm.
Nobody should give a shit if you've got an article of clothing on your head during the National Anthem. That's completely ridiculous. Just put your fucking hand over your heart, sing or don't sing, observe the flag, and don't act obnoxious.
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I'll take off my hat during the anthem when women start taking off all their foreign made clothes during the anthem. As long as were all making up fake patriotic customs. I'm sick of people getting butt hurt over trivial shit like this .
On a serious note, I take my hat off during the anthem. And when I want to get hype, I TAKE MY SHIRT OFF
Stand up and take your damn hats off now
I checked the U.S. Code. Not allowed. If I hear you doing it I'll scream and point at you.
It's all over now baby blue!
It takes much less energy/effort to just take your hat off than to complain and argue with people because "I'm an American- don't tell me what to do!"
I'm looking through my old copy from back when I was a professional PA announcer.
"Ladies and gentlemen, at this time we would like to ask you to please rise, and gentlemen, please remove your head cover. Presenting the Star Spangled Banner tonight..."
In other words, take your damn hat off. No exceptions, unless you're female.
Actually, I attribute this behavior to crappy, modern-day PA announcers and crappy, modern-day copywriters. People need to be reminded. If you're not reminding people to take their damn hats off for the anthem, you're not doing your job.
Dumbing down of America. If you are older than 8 years old, you should remember to take your hat off. It's not like some new custom that people need to get used to and break old habits.
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