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This reversal wouldn't sit very well with the NASCAR lovin good ole boys.
"Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, told reporters from the Columbus Dispatch and other Ohio newspapers that his change of heart on the hot-button issue came two years after his son, Will, told him and his wife that he is gay.
"It allowed me to think of this issue from a new perspective, and that's of a Dad who loves his son a lot and wants him to have the same opportunities that his brother and sister would have—to have a relationship like Jane and I have had for over 26 years," Portman said."
From the blog The Ticket: A prominent conservative senator said Thursday that he now supports gay marriage. Sen. Rob Portman, R-Ohio, told reporters from the Columbus Dispatch and other Ohio newspapers that his change of heart on the hot-button issue came two years after his son, Will, told him and his wife that he is gay. It allowed me to [...]
There's no way the GOP would ever have a Vice President with a gay child.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of stupidity. - Frank Leahy.-- If you're going to be stupid, be smart about it. - Mike Milbury
These Cons often have changes of hearts when it involves their own families be it gay marriage or abortion.
I know, but Portman is now FOR same-sex marriage. This nugget is a little different then having a gay child.
The dramatic announcement comes just a week before the U.S. Supreme Court is to hear oral arguments on the Defense of Marriage Act, which bars federal recognition of same-sex marriage, a measure Portman co-sponsored as a member of the House in 1996
Why not? There are tons of conservatives with gay brothers, sisters, sons, daughters. What country do you think your neighbors live in? I changed my view on the death penalty after I solidified my views on abortion and on the ineptness of my government.
The whole premise of a liberal mindset is that people cannot grow in themselves and in their beliefs, they have to be locked in. When you catch someone changing their mind, you think it is weakness. I think it is wisdom.
I don't think anyone has a problem with his changing beliefs and stances. It's ironic though because he is now against his own legislation.
And wasn't the Right all upset with Obama when his beliefs changed regarding the same issue? So it's OK for people like Portman to change their mind but not Obama?
Somehow I doubt that "the right" will all just go along with this.....I'd guess this will cost the guy some votes, and perhaps the election.
I watched an interview with him, he seems upfront about it...I have to believe as more folks who are homosexual come out of the closet it will become more difficult for heterosexual citizens to justify discriminating against their friends, neighbors, and family members.
I seriously doubt a lot of the "Right" will just go along with it either.
My point to MDG was his claim that liberals need to be "locked into" their beliefs is just stupid. Most liberals applaud this. It's the conservatives that are going to be pissed about it.
Pretty pathetic that a seemingly intelligent person is willfully intolerant of others, but only then changes his stance when his son comes out.
The right will remain intolerant and will continue to lose elections.
"No one cares what you know, until they know how much you care." Mark Dantonio
and MasonDelhi's "The whole premise of a liberal mindset is that people cannot grow in themselves and in their beliefs, they have to be locked in. When you catch someone changing their mind, you think it is weakness. I think it is wisdom."
Yeah, that is such an exclusive trait to their respective political groups because no other people ever do that
I think I miss the spammed out Wells Hall, at least I had an easy link to watch Arsenal play
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So Portman needs to have a son who's gay before realizing his party's agenda is bad for gays. I wish he had a son who's poor.
No they weren't upset with Obama for chaning his beliefs, they were merely correctly pointing out the hypocrisy over the lefts accusations of Romney being a flip-flopper. Now if Portman changed his beliefs in the middle of a campaign race then you'd have a similar situation. BTW exactly what has Obama done with regard to same-sex marriage?
Look, I understand that it's easy to accuse the "other side" of doing something that your own side is guilty of and not realizing it. Everyone does it and it's part of human nature. Having said that, I think that most objective observers, if comparing the stances of issues important to liberals and conservatives, would find far more issues on the right in which strict compliance is required. That is, there are far more "litmus test" issues on the right in which there is very little room for dissent than on the left. How many prominent former conservatives and Republicans have been excommunicated because they altered their positions compared to liberals? A lot more. It's hard to think of even one liberal that has been "forced out" due to changing their mind on something. I'm sure there are several but none come to mind.
After all there is no such thing as a DINO.
After thinking a little bit I think I found one. Joe Lieberman. He still caucuses with the Democrats and kept his committee chairs but he's pretty much disliked by Democrats after endorsing McCain for POTUS over Obama in 2008.
I shutter to think what would happen to a sitting Republican Senator if he endorsed Obama.
Yes there is. They more commonly are referred to as Blue Dog Democrats
I guess you didn't follow politics very closely this past year
"In the August 2 primary election, Clayton received his party's nomination with roughly 30 percent of the vote in a multi-candidate field. There is no runoff election in Tennessee; therefore with less than a third of the votes cast, Clayton became his party's nominee. The day after his nomination, the Tennessee Democratic Party disavowed his candidacy, citing Clayton's conservative and libertarian views. Clayton lost to incumbent Republican Bob Corker in the November 6 general election."
From the blog The Ticket: Last Thursday, Democrat Mark Clayton won his party's nomination for U.S. Senate in Tennessee, but Democrats aren't celebrating. From the state party: Mark Clayton is associated with a known hate group in Washington, D.C., and the Tennessee Democratic Party disavows his candidacy, will not do anything to promote or support him in any way, and [...]
And to answer your question...they are looking at the Defense of Marriage Act..and more states are starting to allow it. What else do you want him to do? Force a Federal Law that trumps the State's Laws so that you can bitch about him usurping power?
Well look at that. The term DINO does exist, but as the wiki entry suggests "The term was created as an analogous opposite to RINO". It's little surprise that I have never heard the term used because no one on really uses it. Certainly not like the right throws around the term RINO.
And as far as I know Blue Dog Democrats aren't as maligned in their own party like RINOs are in the GOP.
I have no clue who that dude is. I think one would have to be a political junkie to be familiar with that case. Democratic politics in Tennessee? That's about as obscure as it gets.
Anyway, the point is that high profile Republicans get labeled as RINOs and shunned (or primaried). I guess obscure Dem congressional candidates in Tennessee get the same treatment, but the only people who know about it are those furiously searching for it on Google in order to make a laughably weak comparison.
If you're referring to the rank and file party members, I would agree with you. Conservatives really have a strong dislike for RINO's. But if you're referring to party leaders, I disagree....Sanders and Leahy went after Liberman to get his charimanship rescinded pretty hard. The only RINO I can think of whom the GOP went after with an equal amount of ferocity was just recently when they attempted to block Hagel's nomination for SOD
Corker is a pretty big name. I think it's not so much having to be a junkie as it was the lack of media coverage surrounding it. Just compare that to this thread about Portman, which should be the one making bigger headlines? You're comparing this story about Portman to what happened to Liebermann and call MY comparison weak?
More states allowing it has absolutely nothing to do with Obama's "support".
I would expect him to do what he always does when he doesn't get his way, write some excecutive orders
I applaud Rob Portman for finally deciding to be a decent human being on this issue once it directly involved his family, bravo, way to go Rob.
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