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You gun nuts love your weapons more than your women. Freaks.
Ms. Dye, 40, obtained an emergency order of protection in July 2010, on the same day she filed for divorce from her husband, Raymond Dye, a firefighter. Ms. Dye, who worked as a personal trainer at a gym the couple owned, explained in her petition that since telling her husband she wanted a divorce because of his infidelity, he had repeatedly threatened to kill her. She wrote that she feared he would “have a violent reaction when he receives divorce papers.”
When asked if there were weapons on the premises, she wrote, “Yes.” In fact, Mr. Dye possessed an arsenal of weapons, which Ms. Dye and her family would later beg the local police to help them deal with, to no avail.
After obtaining the court order, which was good until a hearing about a lengthier order three weeks later, Ms. Dye went into hiding in Texas but returned to Oklahoma to attend divorce proceedings. Two weeks after obtaining the initial order, she was in a bank parking lot in the city of Elgin when her husband pulled up in his truck, blocking her in.
Witnesses later told the police that Mr. Dye, 42, tried to drag her into his truck. When she fought back, Mr. Dye brandished a .357 revolver and shot her in the leg. She fell to the ground. Mr. Dye fired several more shots into her, saying, “I love you, I love you,” according to the police report. He then shot himself in the chest with a different gun, a .45-caliber semiautomatic pistol, and collapsed, dead, onto his wife.
Lobbyists and their allies are challenging states’ efforts to take guns from domestic violence offenders who have been served with civil protection orders.
I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.
I would say that is a typical gun owner response. You should be able to get good mileage out of our broken behavior with that.
Especially one who had repeatedly threatened to kill his wife. But no reason to take his guns, right?
gun nuts. what a bunch of whack jobs.
Looks like she needed to carry a gun.
Or maybe just the gun-grabbers' favorite -- the whistle. Because as we all know, had she blown a whistle, the cops would've been there as fast as Jimmy Johns delivery.
Murky Waters You are ignoring this user.
Thank you for agreeing with the NRA that people with mental issues should not have guns......
Yes, the NRA is ALL OVER this issue.
Gun nuts, delusional as ever.
wow... im surprised that piece of paper didn't protect her. but i guess the lesson here is that firefighters love taking lives more than saving them. so sad.
Yep, thanks to the gun lobby, the paper was useless.
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What we really love is weapons AND women!
who you got?
Stephanie or Paige (notice they all have fingers off the trigger unlike that dumbass senator feinstein)
Link saying they are not... cause I can find about a thousand that says they are
Go right ahead. Provide a link that shows the NRA in favor of taking guns away in cases of protective orders and/or domestic violence.
19 percent! Even TM can't spin that significant amount. But no, s don't care about saving lives of abused women.
A handful of states have enacted laws requiring that judges order the surrender of firearms when issuing even temporary protection orders. The strictest states, like California, Hawaii and Massachusetts, make it mandatory for essentially all domestic violence orders; others, like New York and North Carolina, set out certain circumstances when surrender is required. In a few other states, like Maryland and Wisconsin, surrender is mandatory only with a full injunction, granted after the opposing party has had the opportunity to participate in a court hearing. Several other states, like Connecticut and Florida, do not have surrender laws but do prohibit gun possession by certain people subject to protective orders.
researchers say these laws have made a difference. One study, published in 2010 in the journal Injury Prevention, found a 19 percent reduction in intimate partner homicides.
What a fucking idiot. It's the ACLU, not the NRA, that is opposed to mental cases being included in the National Instant Criminal Background Check database. The NRA has pushed for it for years.
That's funny, cause I CLEARLY said mental health issues...... but thanks for playing
So you can't provide a link. Didn't think so.
Why doesn't the gun lobby want to protect abused women?
The gun-grabbers would love it if national legislation mandated that all a bitter wench in a pending divorce case had to do was claim her soon-to-be ex-husband threatened her, taking out a PPO so that the guy gets his guns taken away forever.
Ok. I'll play along... from 13 days ago..... but I am sure you will find some flaw in this, even though it is exactly what you were asking for, and it in fact covers my original topic effectively closing out this argument..... I look forward to you conceding, but I am not holding my breath
The bill introduced by Republicans Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Jeff Flake of Arizona, along with Democrats Mark Pryor of Arkansas and Mark Begich of Alaska, would expand the definition of those adjudicated “mentally incompetent” to include those judged to be a danger to themselves or others, found not guilty in a criminal case by reason of insanity, and requires involuntary outpatient treatment by a psychiatric hospital, among other provisions.
“This bill will create accurate definitions of those who pose serious threats and should be barred from the ability to buy or possess a firearm, while protecting the rights of law abiding citizens and veterans,” said Chris W. Cox, the National Rifle Association’s chief lobbyist. “This legislation will significantly improve the National Instant Check System, which is critically needed.”
Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/6/nra-embraces-senate-mental-health-bill/#ixzz2O1Tc0fRO
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The National Rifle Association, which has opposed virtually all of President Obamas proposed gun control package, swiftly endorsed a bill rolled out Wednesday intended to strengthen the federal background check system and keep guns out of the hands of those deemed mentally ill.
This post was edited by CincySpartan 13 months ago
Any time now. Provide a link that shows the NRA in favor of taking guns away in cases of protective orders and/or domestic violence.
"Washington State has seen several efforts to enact firearm surrender laws. In 2004, Representative Ruth Kagi, a Democrat, introduced a bill mandating the surrender of firearms with temporary protective orders. But after strong opposition from the N.R.A., the bill failed to make it out of committee. The N.R.A.’s lobbyist in the state, Brian Judy, testified that the measure granted “extraordinarily broad authority to strip firearms rights.” "
Because all women going through divorce are never bitter. They would never dream of lying just to piss off the ex-husband in getting his guns taken away forever. Just as they would never lie in claiming the ex-husband emotionally or sexually abused the kids, so that the woman gets full custody.
That never happens.
Sound legislation from the D-twat in Washington state.
While you idiots are arguing about this nonsense, I'll take this opportunity to post more goodness:
You would consider this to be nonsense:
A handful of states have enacted laws requiring that judges order the surrender of firearms when issuing even temporary protection orders.
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