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I wouldn't teach anymore honestly. Good points all around just my feeling. After pulling a gun and almost shooting my mom at he age of four, I see that even good people don't take care the way they should. Kids can steal cars or push people down the stairs but as a parent/teacher my children would be removed from any school that had that gun rule. Just more chances of something bad happening. Metal detectors and gates make more sense if people are nervous. But people have a right to carry guns even if I chose not to.
They have that right, but I find it amazing that the people who choose to exercise that right are usually violently, aggressively resistant to any suggestion that their decision costs other people. Do you know how many stolen guns are used in crimes every year? Nobody will ever get killed by a gun stolen from me because I don't own a gun. For that matter, the guns used in this crime were owned by the mother -- quite an arsenal for the purposes of self-defense! -- and she regularly took her sons to the gun range to make sure they knew how to employ her arsenal in as lethal a manner as possible, according to the ABC News report I just watched. So, again, people who argue that her ownership of that arsenal and her training of her sons is her right, should also admit to the fact that her exercise of that right proved pretty costly to a lot of people.
This post has been edited 3 times, most recently by GreenMeany 19 months ago
"Look at this. An entire generation of Cinderellas, and there's no glass slipper coming." -- Mother in ALMOST FAMOUS
Well, on the bright side, it would have been extremely hard for him to conceal a Glock once he stripped down to his birthday suit.
A decent post, but your last sentence sums up the debate, I think.
I disagree 100%. No one has the RIGHT to walk around carrying a gun.
"No one cares what you know, until they know how much you care." Mark Dantonio
It works in Isreal, not one student killed since they armed teachers in 1970. Funny how the anti-gun people like to point toward Israel as a country that "gets" it with ther low number of gun murders ONLY when it suits their agenda
This post was edited by fallenangle 19 months ago
but yet you believe in the 1st amendment I bet
Actually the mother of the shooter, a teacher, had guns.....one of which was used to kill her and the others used to kill 25 others.
"If you have the right to be offended I have the right to offend you." - Ricky Gervais
That gratitude for teachers is a respite from recent years in which politicians and the public have viewed them as anything but heroes. Instead, teachers have been the focus of increased scrutiny, criticized for what is perceived as having generous and unwarranted benefits and job security."I think a moment like this makes us appreciate and understand the degree to which we are dependent on our teachers to take care of our children in all kinds of ways, not just in what they learn in the classroom," said Paula Fass, a history professor at the University of California, Berkeley.Over the last four years, a wave of reforms, prompted largely by the U.S. Department of Education and its $4.35 billion Race to the Top competition, has led states to strip teachers of tenure and institute tougher evaluations based in considerable part on student scores on standardized tests. The heavier emphasis on testing has led to a narrowing of what is perceived as the teacher's role in the classroom.
From Yahoo! News: Hung on a building in the Connecticut town where 20 children and six adults were killed at an elementary school is a spray-painted sign with four words:
Haters gonna hate!
Sorry, double post
This post was edited by TempleSpartan 19 months ago
Not "all" teachers. As a group they really don't have the judgement to be entrusted with deadly force.
Having a gun may be a right, but it is also a big responsibility. A more mature and thoughtful person than a typical teacher is necessary.
Best option is to end the gun free zone loophole. Take the targets off the backs of children and it won't cost a dime.
Question authority. Power to the people
So much stupidity packed into 3 short sentences. Amazing.
The only truth is that "gun free" zones are like a body with no functioning immune system. Expect the worst when that body is attacked.
You people that think your last defensive action while on this planet should be spent pleading for mercy will get no support from me.
No, fuck 'em. They make too much money, only work six hours a day, and have summers off. Amirite? Right?
Yeah, we need to make schools MORE like prisons...
Arming teachers is a TERRIBLE idea. What if a teacher slips up and gets careless? When do you find time to properly train them? Are you going to make firearms training part of the teacher education curriculum now? What about teachers who might have religious objections to carrying a weapon?
Try and fix the problems with the mental health of the people who go on these rampages instead.
tRCMB - Visit at your own risk of being disgusted.
Congratulations. You managed to pack more stupidity into two short sentences than greenie had in 3. Amazing!!
This post was edited by iCameron 19 months ago
A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.
I thought Clinton had a great idea, and it obviously worked. He funded the COPS in school program after Columbine and there hadn't been an incident like that at a non-university school since Obama decided to decrease its funding
No thank you. The teachers/staff I work with that would choose to carry are not necessarily the ones that I would be comfortable with in doing so. Happy xmas by the way.
Critics ridicule arming teachers as a foolhardy idea promoted by overzealous gun enthusiasts, saying it would only add danger to the classroom while distracting teachers from their job of educating children.
Supporters say an armed teacher could have stopped the massacre at Sandy Hook, where a 20-year-old man armed with a military-style assault rifle killed 20 children and six adults before killing himself.
"What we know is that these spree killers are looking for the highest death toll possible. They look for no-gun zones like schools," Valentino said. "It doesn't make sense that we guard our gold with guns and we guard our kids with hope."
In Ohio, more than 900 teachers, administrators and school employees asked to take part in the Buckeye Firearms Association's newly created, three-day gun training program, the association said. In Texas, an $85 Concealed Handgun License (CHL) course offered at no cost to teachers filled 400 spots immediately, forcing the school to offer another class, one instructor said.
This post was edited by LooseGoose2012 18 months ago
Correlation is not causation.
Bullshit is not beefsteak.
Wow, you're a real asshole. Way to make a sweeping assumption of a wide-ranging group of individuals. You obviously don't have the judgement to own a gun, either.
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