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Actually the comment of "this guy's a Jesuit? I thought the Pope had to be a Catholic" actually tells me someone knows a bit about Catholicism and how some in the faith view the Jesuits. I've relatives ready to slit their wrists at the idea of Pope, SJ." Me, I'm pleased.......
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." --Gandhi
My initial reactions....as a Catholic....are that this man looks extremely humble. His story is great, and hopefully he can be a man that brings change to the Church. He is of the people, and hopefully he can be of the people of the Church throughout the world. I'm happy with this selection.
I love that he is a Jesuit. AMDG
Ya'd think they were saving Francis for a Franciscan... huh.
He is extremely humble. This is a pope who has visited slums, cooked his own meals, chose plain living quarters, etc. Even his first speech as pope screamed "humble." It was just a "Uh, hi everyone. I guess I have been elected pope. We need to pray for each other."
This post was edited by Jud Owns Digger 13 months ago
The RCMB...is one of the most awful, alarming, inappropriate, disgusting, and offensive msg boards in the history of the internet.
I believe that's what is so telling about this man's character. Franciscan or not, he obviously has exhibited the traits of St. Francis.
Had Francis I been named pope this time last week, I would've put money on University of San Fransisco winning the West Coast Conference Tournament.
How about a little analysis of where he stands on the issues:
-Opposes homosexuality and actively campaigned against an Argentine Governmental campaign to allow same-sex marriage.
-Opposes abortion and euthanasia
-Has actively campaigned for class equality.
Conclusion: Church attempts to guise their tarnished image and retention of social dogma by selecting an historic "diversity candidate" (30% of Catholics are South American, so not exactly diverse in terms of proportional representation) who has displayed concern for the poor. +1 For having concern for the poor, but they don't get brownie points in my book for making it back to par - support for the poor should be a given.
This post was edited by beal99 13 months ago
And was accused of conspiring with the Junta to kidnap two jesuit priests who stood out for advocating violent overthrow of the military dictatorship.
Meet the new Pope, same as the old Pope. Religion is the same as politics.
now granted, the negative are MHO, not necessarily negative for others.
Here's the thing, though. I expect those negatives from any serious candidate for the papacy. The key is that based on his background, he seems more likely focus on social justice than the other issues. At this point, that's good enough in my eyes and is a large change from Benedict.
I accepted those as inevitable. He apparently supports contraception as a way to avoid disease though, so that's a nice thing.
Junta conspirer is worse than Hitler youth to me.
You should lighten up, Francis.
There is a concept called Vatican time. The Catholic Church has existed for centuries because it goes slowly. Sometimes that is a negative in adjusting to a contemporary issue and sometimes its a buffer against the fast-changing social tides. As I've grown older, I've also grown to appreciate that the Catholic Church takes its time, especially on issues that involve a changing social morality. I do believe we'll see the church change on a number of fronts, including contraception, homosexuality, the role of women, etc. That won't be with some sudden reversal though. Incremental change has been kept at bay by the last two papacies. Today, I have some hope a door has been opened....
so humble he hid political prisoners at his villa so the Human Rights Commission wouldn't find them:
What one did not hear from any senior member of the Argentine hierarchy was any expression of regret for the church's collaboration and in these crimes. The extent of the church's complicity in the dark deeds was excellently set out by Horacio Verbitsky, one of Argentina's most notable journalists, in his book El Silencio (Silence). He recounts how the Argentine navy with the connivance of Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio, now the Jesuit archbishop of Buenos Aires, hid from a visiting delegation of the Inter-American Human Rights Commission the dictatorship's political prisoners. Bergoglio was hiding them in nothing less than his holiday home in an island called El Silencio in the River Plate. The most shaming thing for the church is that in such circumstances Bergoglio's name was allowed to go forward in the ballot to chose the successor of John Paul II. What scandal would not have ensued if the first pope ever to be elected from the continent of America had been revealed as an accessory to murder and false imprisonment
Hugh O'Shaughnessy: The Catholic Church was complicit in dreadful crimes in Argentina. Now it has a chance to repent
"If you have the right to be offended I have the right to offend you." - Ricky Gervais
Ahhhh....you were setting someone up for that, weren't you? Bravo.
Why, are you worried?
I must be crazy to be in a loony bin like this.
He thinks it should be kept on the down low
This should not surprise anyone.
You (and the author of this 2 yr old article) conveniently have not mentioned that the U.S. supported Videla in the "Dirty War".
"These right-wing governments, often taking power via coup, were supported by the United States and the church alike for their stand against Communism."
I read the news today, oh boy .. ..
About a lucky man who made the grade
Trust me, the panicked rush by the media to scour his personal history for flaws is coming as a surprise to no one. Since we have "ism"s for every minority but Catholics, it's the last acceptable prejudice in this country.
Catholics have an "ism". Catholicism.
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