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an out gay man or Christian? Hard to tell these days.
Seems like if a player is too much of one or the other there's no place for him in sports.
They both have to navigate some treacherous locker room situations, but what about relations with the fans? Sports are big business after all.
With the Christian dads can buy their sons the jersey to wear at school and let them hang a fat head in his room--even if he's not very good. But what will the fathers of America do when there's a gay guy on the court? I mean other than immediately pointing out that he's a 34 year old free agent and was never very good anyway?
Well wasn't Cousins a big religious guy?
How many players thank God in post-game interviews?
Talent (or lack thereof) trumps both.
My parents got me a Bob Probert jersey as a kid because I loved the guy.
I didnt turn into a coke head.
I can't imagine there are many Jason Collins jerseys being worn by fans, but they won't turn anyone gay.
yeah, he could lay his hands on him and work the gay right out.
THE WORST is "the distraction". Tebow had become a distraction and it made life tough on teammates and coaches. His next stop should go better, I hope it is not Arizona (for Stanton and Hoyers sake)
We dont know if "gay" is a distraction yet. It shouldnt be.
If you laugh, you think, and you cry, that's a full day. That's a heck of a day.
Would your rather:
Be the one straight guy in a locker room full of gay guys.
Be the one atheist in a locker room full of Christians.
By the power of Jesus.....allow this man to be released!
equating drug addiction with homosexuality.
This sure advances the conversation.
How about "live and let live".
I have no problem with either in my locker room. What they do in their personal time and bedroom is none of my business. Hopefully one day we'll reach a point in society where coming out as LGBT won't be newsworthy - that would be the ultimate sign of equal rights.
As far as the Tebow/Christian narrative angle, I'm happy for him that he has strong beliefs. I'm not religious, but if that's what makes him happy or fulfills his life, good on him. At some point, whether it is his fault or the media's (and I think more blame deserves to be on the latter) his religious message becomes proselytizing, which I find quite annoying. The thanking of God for everything is a bit over the top. If there is a God, he should have far more important things to do than want Team A to beat Team B in some insignificant sports contest
he was, but he didn't put it on such open display as Teblow did. Think back to that 80 yard run by Thomas that everyone gave Teblow credit for. While his teammates celebrated Teblow ran to the other endzone to pray where everyone could see him. When Cousins threw the game winner against Wisconsin he didn't ignore his teammates to display his Christianity for all to see. Therein lies the difference.
I do remember Kitna causing major locker room issues with his evangelizing with the Lions.
"If you have the right to be offended I have the right to offend you." - Ricky Gervais
Can we define "Christian" first?
Are we talking "follow the golden rule" Christian (Kirk Cousins) or "outspoken, fear of the other, intolerant of others" Christian (Tim Tebow)?
What conversation? This is Wells and your premise is weak to begin with. There have been strong Christian men in locker rooms for decades who have not felt any wrath.
Since when has Tebow been intolerant of others? He's outspoken about his faith, sometimes to the point of annoyance IMO but I haven't heard of him being intolerant of others.
Just like gays coming out and annoying me. It's all the same. Why can't they be intolerant of me and my feelings?
Anyone who thinks an openly Christian has it remotely bad compared to an openly gay male athlete is an idiot.
The one straight guy. The gay guys can help you pick up women.
his family's "missionary work" in the Philippines is built upon intolerance of Catholics.
Definitely the one straight guy. The gays won't try to forcibly convert you like the christians do.
I'm not a big Gay guy
- Rick Majerus
What is that, a Titleist? A hole in one...
But I haven't heard him say this. I don't know how he himself proselytizes but I don't see him as intolerant. He seems like a damn nice guy.
You're the one who brought up the stupid topic to begin with.
What point were you trying to make exactly?
right from the Teblow Ministries webpage on the work they do in the most Catholic country in the world:
The first and most important of our priorities is evangelism. It is the goal of the Bob Tebow Evangelistic Association to preach the gospel to every person who has never had an opportunity to hear the good news of eternal life in Jesus Christ. Most of the world’s population has never once had the opportunity to hear the only true message of forgiveness of sins by faith alone, in Jesus Christ alone. It is our calling from God to take this precious message of the gospel to every person in the world who has never heard it.
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